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PURE Purecircle Limited

99.50
0.00 (0.00%)
Last Updated: 00:00:00
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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Purecircle Limited LSE:PURE London Ordinary Share BMG7300G1096 ORD USD0.10 (DI)
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 99.50 99.40 99.60 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

Purecircle Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
03/10/2017
11:43
Right I've closed my short here now, though of course it might well fall a lot further. Good luck all, whether short or long.
scantrader
30/9/2017
08:18
Bonkers valuation for this company IMO.
meijiman
30/9/2017
07:23
I presume they were both sales?
acliff

acliff
25/9/2017
10:44
Some late comments on the results from me:

- Gross margin in H2 fell from 40% in H1 to 37% in H2 despite heavy capex on new refinery which is billed as an efficiency improvement. This means the revenue in H2 was most likely delivered by reducing prices.

- They delivered a profit for H2 from FX gains and reducing admin costs on H1.

- Another cashflow negative half year at -$2.7m before changes in working capital hence net debt increased again.

- Days sales Inventories rose to 325 days suggesting that they didn't sell as much as expected.

- Days sales receivables increased to 205 days suggesting that they extended very favourable terms to customers in order to sell their product.

- days sales payables increased to 110 days meaning they delayed paying suppliers.

- Director sale post results

- basic maths error in Edison not as spotted by scan

dangersimpson2
24/9/2017
14:09
New PURE report from Edison out Friday



Huge errors in price earnings forecasts for 2018 & 2019 flatter the value. Looks like they equated cents with pence in the earnings consensus.

Eg for 2018 6.8 cents = 5.02 p ,at current share price of 485 p = PE of about 96 - not their 65.5 !

scantrader
19/9/2017
07:25
Just 3p earnings per share in line and importantly I think no reassurance of US orders rushing back, whereas brokers were forecasting a return to 8p earnings for the coming year. Only 8% growth outside US too.

Seems awful to me at first glance

scantrader
18/9/2017
16:44
All I know is there's been some serious buying going on. Someone knows something. Struggle to see this breaking tomorrow tbh. Stop loss is on place, regardless.
from8to800
18/9/2017
13:58
or the other way to look at that is that 6p is ahead of concensus?
johnthespacer
18/9/2017
13:48
Yep. FT.com are still giving the consensus earnings estimates at just 3p per share, compared to 8p the previous year. They got it spot on last year, but even if it's turns out to be say 6p that would still be a 25% fall so I can't see the market being
exhilarated by that.

scantrader
18/9/2017
06:16
Results tomorrow!
johnthespacer
14/9/2017
07:31
Some of the momentum will be due to PURE entering the SmallCap index on Monday. Perhaps it will slacken off a bit soon as funds get their fill.
typo56
14/9/2017
00:05
Ta reply. We seem to be the only posters around now - kinda spooky.
scantrader
13/9/2017
14:19
dangersimpson2 - I've direct-messaged you
scantrader
11/9/2017
21:53
Good posts -thanks. Will try and get back to you tomorrow
scantrader
11/9/2017
12:31
Cashflow before changes in W/C has occasionally been positive for a HY but never for a full year:


2011H1 2011H2 2012H1 2012H2 2013H1 2013H2 2014H1 2014H2 2015H1 2015H2 2016H1 2016H2 2017H1Cashflow before W/C ($m) -15.3 -13.9 -15.1 -13.7 -10.2 -4.8 -7.2 4.6 -4.5 1.4 -4.8 4.5 -27.3

dangersimpson2
11/9/2017
12:25
I agree, it must be the only company to issue a 'materially below expectations' RNS and then go up 50% on no further news.

I guess they have been doing the rounds promoting the 'story' and index buying plus maybe some short squeeze has caused the rise (although there is no notifiable short positions at the moment.)

Given the net debt and lack of free cash flow the business is entirely reliant on the future support of it's banks. In the next global recession it could easily be a zero.

How did you manage to short? - it has been unborrowable on IG for a while now.

dangersimpson2
11/9/2017
11:52
Also I think the company capitalises its expenses such that what earnings it does make aren't actually cash that they could distribute as dividends. I haven't checked thoroughly but has it EVER generated positive free cash flow? DYOR as ever.
scantrader
11/7/2017
08:10
Why the big drop in the last few minutes of trading yesterday,

Placing coming?

Director sales?

zipstuck
02/5/2017
08:24
As someone who uses stevia in tea I was interested in Coke Life, but I think reason its a basic failure is in the description. Contains one third less sugar than regular Coke. A third less, as in "still quite a lot".

If you are in the business of wanting to cut out sugar from your diet, Coke Life just seems like a really bad deal when there's Coke Zero on the shelf next to it. My guess is also that if you are anti aspartame, you are probably anti processed sugar too, and are more like to get out of drinking coke all together and choose something else than a half way option like Life.

wobaguk
09/4/2017
11:54
Is the problem the Stevia or trying to market 3 different sugar free brands. perhaps the public who have got used to one type of sugar free coke stick to it and do not want to change to another variety of sugar free coke. if it doesn't perform after a time there is no point in running 3 sugar free types where 2 will do. They will lose the people who refuse to consume aspartame.
haroldthegreat
07/4/2017
13:50
Yes I saw that as well. Not good news at all.
meijiman
07/4/2017
10:47
Not encouraging for Purecircle. Coca Cola themselves couldnt make the stevia brand work.

coke life being dropped in the UK

hxxps://www.marketingweek.com/2017/04/06/coke-drops-coke-life-brand/

all the signs from the past year are that this company is in trouble.

Shaun

shaunstar
10/3/2017
07:16
Chunky director purchase yesterday. Will be sales momemtumum in all areas. Margins should be protected by efficiency of new plant. Is this attractive to predators at this point??
zipstuck
08/3/2017
10:08
As a result of the us ban on Imports have the us customers switched to an alternative supplier or did they use up existing stocks in the country ? If they switched to an alternative supplier will they switch back to pure circle ?
haroldthegreat
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