Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Purecircle Limited LSE:PURE London Ordinary Share BMG7300G1096 ORD USD0.10 (DI)
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 131.20 129.60 132.80 0.00 0.00 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Food Producers 99.2 5.7 3.8 34.2 242

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04/8/2010
11:45
Good blog on PURE from Lucian Miers at ShareCrazy http://sharecrazy.com/beta/daily/3969/an-update-on-purecircle-by-lucian-miers-the-bard-of-the-boleyn
windass
03/8/2010
07:20
Marketing campaign underway; looks like things got off to a slower start than we thought but starting to motor now. Building a business takes time. Of course there is always the risk stevia products dont' take off, so we are a couple of years away from sleeping at night but looking good to me. S
smarm
02/8/2010
16:40
well it seems to be flying today
ukinvestor220
30/7/2010
11:15
With these 'jam tomorrow' stocks I'm always minded of RR. The CEO kept making promises of restructuring and in his words 'jam tomorrow' way back in the early 2000's. In 2005 the jam arrived and the share price shot up 100% within a few months. That's why it stays on my radar.
henryatkin
30/7/2010
08:18
Thanks alun, Fortunatly this news must already be in the price. With finals to bo announced on the 22 September, the price aim of 150p will come into focus, on reiterating underperforming news with the results.
a1samu
30/7/2010
07:32
"Evolution Securities, which down¬graded 2011 earnings forecasts by 25% in March amid concerns that the pace of volume growth would be slower than Pure Circle was guiding towards, downgraded a further 60% yesterday following the company's admission that it is a year behind expectations. Analyst Alex Sloane advised punters to sell, and slashed his target price to 150p from 250p. He said the announcement of a joint venture agreement with AB Foods to sell blended stevia and sugar sweeteners in much of Europe, Africa and China could help sentiment but it is unlikely to show up in numbers for at least two years. The company has promised much but delivered very little over the past couple of years." http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/markets/article.html?in_article_id=510346&in_page_id=3&ito=1565
alunmorris
30/7/2010
05:28
Spot on darlocast. I closed a short and am now looking to buy - but I keep taking the pills and look at the valuation . I would be wanting to buy mearer 160
felix99
29/7/2010
21:38
darlocst - fair post. I think they have much to prove over next 18 months. s
smarm
29/7/2010
20:39
Interesting discussion. Like Davidosh I've been a buyer of PURE in the past, met with management, etc. No position currently (not since June 09) but still following the story... Which unfortunately hasn't moved on since early '09. They are still selling the same story now as they were then. Sales and cash generation have been major disappointments and the forecast demand hasn't come through yet (but its always just around the corner). IMO there could be a great business here but due to non progress over last 18 mths the current valuation isn't justified. I expect the market to continue to move from valuing PURE on the basis that sales ARE going to start flowing in the next half year to valuing PURE on the basis that sales MIGHT start to increase at some point in the coming year. I'm sure that Smarm can come up with lots of suitable technical entry points (not my bag) but I won't be interested until the market cap is under £200m, they have enough cash/debt financing and there is evidence of strong sales growth.
darlocst
29/7/2010
19:52
henry thanks for the feedback on your m/a etc
cr4zyness
29/7/2010
17:53
henry - I have subscribed to the basic site for sixy something sponduliks and that comes with EK's ramblings and current portfolio. It's impossible to pick up where he is because there are no buys and sells, just a list shares sorted by long and short. I'm sure he's done just fine but whether the likes of his ASC short scuppers his better efforts is impossible to tell. I strongly dislike lack of transparency. A1 - he is not the least bit the same as you and me...he has hundreds of followers, we don't. His ramblings move prices, ours don't. It's frustrating that he has decided to pick on a fascinating growth story. And twice now he has cost me money on PURE. S
smarm
29/7/2010
10:15
Could this have bottomed out? It would be nice. Despite anybody's opinions, I have repurchased my holding at 181.76p. Here is hoping that this will see 200+ by end of tomorrow. Henry you should believe my posting in which I wrote that I am only an ordinary punter just like you. So the comments I make are designed to produce a response, which I seem to have achieved, in this instance. Neither can I understand all the vitriol about "cawky", after all he is just like you and me trying to make a profit on his dealings. What is wrong with that? Anyhow good luck, all who hold this one.
a1samu
29/7/2010
10:12
Crazy .... I use 20 wilder smoothing m/a on IG advance charts or 20 weighted m/a on advfn charts. Both used with 10 ema crossover for confirmation. As always, nothing works all the time. smarm ... I don't hold atm but will wait for the next t/s. No more excuses for additional funding and expectation for some rapid growth of revenues - we wait. I'm sure cawky has his good'ns both long and short but don't we all.
henryatkin
29/7/2010
09:56
well if i had followed him into this one, id be getting out and taking my quick profits pdq ..
ukinvestor220
29/7/2010
09:35
henry - nice post. I think a lot of people follow Cawkwell quite blindly....and if you look at his shorting record it is, at least in my opinion, p!ss poor. He is modestly better to the long side but it's impossible to determine whether he makes money because there is no transparency. I enjoy his ramblings but I would not take his trades. S
smarm
29/7/2010
09:18
henry thanks nice to hear from you also, left a message over on HTG regarding your 20wma which days do you give your most weighting?
cr4zyness
29/7/2010
09:01
alsamu ... you are clearly wrong in your approach to valuation. Based on your reasoning every speculative non profit making company is worth nothing. Ask Cawky if KYS is worth nothing because it makes no profit. If it is worth nothing then he is doing something wrong. Assets and future growth returns from those assets have to be considered in any valuation of a young company. Todays RNS alone will increase the asset value of the company and it is a matter of personal opinion weather you think the company will make future returns on the assets that are worth an individual investing. Imo the company have done a great job in building a global supply chain for their raw materials and processing fascilities. The major food manufacturers have now also shown that they like the product enough to sign up to it. All those things add to the valuation. Its 'amature investor' to look at every company on the basis of last years and next years profit or 10x EPS etc. Crazy ... glad to hear you well.
henryatkin
29/7/2010
08:01
Smarm I am well thanks yeah things good, hows you? Always liked your reasoned approach a refreshing change from the dross that is posted on these threads!! No reflection on the current posters by the way, its like trying to reason with the insane or is that me??? probably lol
cr4zyness
29/7/2010
06:26
RNS Number : 1329Q PureCircle Limited 29 July 2010  PureCircle Limited ("PureCircle or the Company") PureCircle begins processing Africa and South America sourced leaf and expands its stevia agriculture into the USA PureCircle (LSE:PURE), the world's leading producer and marketer of high purity stevia products, today announces two further milestones in its global quality leaf sourcing strategy. Proprietary high quality African and South American stevia leaf now being processed The Company has started successfully processing leaf sourced from both Kenya and Paraguay in its stevia extract facilities in China. The high quality proprietary leaf is, as expected, performing well, providing actual production yields significantly above those of the prevailing China market and further reducing the cost of SG95 and Reb A substantially. It is worth noting that PureCircle's proprietary high quality leaf planted in Africa and South America is protected through Plant Breeders' Rights. The processing of protected varietal leaf from Africa and South America is an important milestone in PureCircle's successful expansion and diversification of our supply chain. The early results are encouraging and underpin the Company's intentions to start constructing stevia extract facilities in both Africa and South America as soon as current capacities are beyond 50 per cent utilisation. New USA based leaf supply partnership combined with research and varietal development The company announces that it has entered into a five year agreement to source stevia leaf from S&W Seed Company Inc.(NASDAQ symbol "SANW") and its subsidiary, based in Five Points, California. This brings large scale stevia cultivation to the USA and is another milestone in PureCircle's worldwide expansion of stevia as a large volume commodity crop. PureCircle is leading the industry in ensuring stability and sufficiency of stevia supply even with the rapid expansion of consumer products entering the marketplace. In the US, the newly signed contract with S&W contains strong commercial incentives for growing stevia in the continental United States on the scale required to support major North American based food and beverage manufacturers. The relationship with S&W will also provide support for PureCircle's recently announced research and varietal development project, in conjunction with Michigan State University, focused on the next generation of steviol glycosides beyond Reb A. Magomet Malsagov, CEO and Managing Director of PureCircle, commented : "These are important milestones for our stevia supply chain. Our proprietary leaf from Kenya and Paraguay is performing well and underpins our plans to build extraction capacity in Africa and South America in the future." The signing of the S&W agreement will bring decades of related agronomic experience to partner with PureCircle in the development of proprietary stevia varieties in North America. Over the last 20 years S&W has developed world leading varieties of alfalfa seed, as verified by university trials. Grover Wickersham, Chairman of S &W Seed, Inc., said: "For 30 years, S&W has worked with Californian farmers to produce high quality agricultural products, while PureCircle has earned recognition as the world leader in the large scale production of Rebaudioside A (Reb A) from stevia leaf. PureCircle and S&W have partnered to improve stevia cultivation and develop new stevia varietals. We are very excited about working with PureCircle to produce the highest quality stevia in a way that is cost effective for food and beverage manufacturers."
pwhite73
28/7/2010
22:09
Cr4 - 'ello. Ta. Just a precis of the statement. They have had a slow start to sales but assuming the stevia market continues to expand then PURE will do just fine. I have to agree that it is overvalued on what we know now....but this is a [potentially] gigantic new industry and rome wasn't build in a day. I trust you are well? S
smarm
28/7/2010
22:06
Smarm good post ;)
cr4zyness
28/7/2010
21:23
A1 - yes, agree that PURE has been on too high a rating but hang on, have you actually read the management statement. For that matter has Cawkwell. Clearly 2010 has been disappointing but 2011 looks exciting to me. Short away, the lower I can buy back in the more money I will make. 100 invoicing customers globally. Most customers conducting trials and testing launches. Those consumer products already launched are performing well. 2010 profits held back by increased investment in production overhead and running under capacity. Goal is to build large global business and invested heavily to do so. 2010 has been a year of rapid progress in teh strengthening and expansion of global supply chain. Actual production has doubled in line with investment plans We expect further strong gains in 2011. Leaf expansion accelerated again in 2010. Strong balance sheet. $65m cash. Fully funded for existing expansion plans. 2010 we widened range of high quality stevia product portfolio, and accelerating the number and pace of product launches and regulatory approvals FDA Gras an exaple. France has now given approval for Reb A to be sold as an ingredient. EFSA recommended approval for 95% purity steviolglycosides, paving way to full EU clearance. Accelerated research and investment into improved stevia varieties. An upgrade of auditor from Howards to PWC. 2010 has seen stevia become recognised as core part of the global mass volume natural sweetener industry. All major F&B companies are now using stevia. We expect sales to our existing customer base to grow strongly in FY 2011 and future years. We expect accelerated stragetic progress in FY 2011, starting with the TNSC MOU. Going forward we expect to see more customers launching more products in more countries and accelerating the growth of the overall market. PureCircle is well placed to secure a major share of this growth. We have the balance sheet and the global infrastructure in place to support this. S
smarm
28/7/2010
18:51
Guys, These wild swings have appeared in the past and i'm sure they will in the future. This happened about the same time last year. At the end of the day the product will help many with obesity & diabetes, which is increasing year on year. Keep the faith :)
spudders
28/7/2010
14:59
Troc you are clearly wrong, but yet I wish you well. The fundamentals of this company are all wrong at the moment. They will come right in time. It has a capitalisation of over £300M, Sales of under £40 and less, Profits of about £7M and less, and the immediate prospects are reduced sales and profits. So the price/ earnings ratio of about 40, is being adjusted to reflect this. At the moment and in the short term this is not a growth company, neither does it return any income. In the short term, the p/e is being adjusted. Probably a share price of about 70p might realistically reflect the immediate prospects. In the long term it will be worth over £3, for which one may have to wait a few years. Just my thoughts and I do not know any better, than the next punter. So, good luck all.
a1samu
28/7/2010
14:34
Ooops....badly timed again. Oh dear oh dear. No matter; made a lot on this one so happy to be patient. S
smarm
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