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Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Type | Share ISIN | Share Description |
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Provident Financial Plc | LSE:PFG | London | Ordinary Share | GB00B1Z4ST84 | ORD 20 8/11P |
Price Change | % Change | Share Price | Bid Price | Offer Price | High Price | Low Price | Open Price | Shares Traded | Last Trade | |
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0.00 | 0.00% | 225.00 | 223.60 | 224.80 | - | 0.00 | 00:00:00 |
Industry Sector | Turnover | Profit | EPS - Basic | PE Ratio | Market Cap |
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0 | 0 | N/A | 0 |
Date | Subject | Author | Discuss |
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15/8/2017 09:04 | Whatever it is it is getting rather tedious. Value of home collection business more than taken away a long time ago. | minerve | |
15/8/2017 08:24 | The problem of valuing this can be seen in broker recs since the H1 results: 26 July ... Numis ..... 1832p S 25 July ... Peel Hunt . 2660p H 24 July ... S G ....... 3110p B [day preceding] I've never held the ords but sold most of my PFG retail bonds on this news (exc. the 2017). On the same day the advisory broker I held them with told me they were buying the ords for their discretionary clients. That would be around 2400! It just goes to show ... but I'm not sure what it shows! @ sippguru: the close period was 30 June to 25 July. | jonwig | |
15/8/2017 08:03 | In danger of spiralling into capitulation. | stewart64 | |
15/8/2017 07:21 | market not happy, starting to make my (poor) sale a couple of years ago -look good! | fenners66 | |
15/8/2017 06:33 | Are the directors in a closed period? Worrying lack of activity even at these prices from the board. Time to remove that fat controller and put a decent forward thinking CEO in place. Failing that this is just a loan book in run off with massive and unnecessary FTE overheads. Lack of direction, a less than honest board of directors and no ideas on how to proceed. Usual next step for the confused with cash is to go buy something to liven things up. I'd guess a competitor or a major introducer. | sippguru | |
14/8/2017 13:34 | Give it time, will turn once investors see value | ny boy | |
14/8/2017 12:00 | Like many here got stopped out trying to catch a falling knife. Bought at 20.72, stopped out at 20.39 a few days back. So many big beasts slain lately, Imperial Brands also trying to find a bottom. | stewart64 | |
14/8/2017 09:36 | Woodford bought lots of this at much higher price and their recent blogs said they are confident and average down to buy more. Can one trust Woodford on this share? | riskvsreward | |
10/8/2017 12:54 | Well bought back 2020p stop below new support 1925p, bounce to 2220p according to versold conditions | ny boy | |
10/8/2017 08:20 | Essential investor that's a really good point, if this is good value then they should be filling their boots shouldn't they ?? | pnetol | |
10/8/2017 08:04 | Any of the non execs adding at these levels? | essentialinvestor | |
09/8/2017 13:43 | Got stopped out at b/e on first long @ 2070p, waiting patiently for another bottom, to have another go. Always put your stop in and if the stock rises up the stop to b/e Difficult one as catching a falling knife still! | ny boy | |
09/8/2017 12:31 | fenners66 - "Their clients may well get loans from the agents - because that's who they always did use - not because of interest rates or anything else." I agree with you on the 'interest rate' thing, but looking on the bright side almost all the customers are in need of good sensible advice, an 'employee' will be able to offer that and it's just possible that the customer might listen, A collecting agent has always just collected the weekly payment (or not if the customer is broke) IMO they have never been there to 'help' the customer. After the Wonga fiasco I got the feeling that all governments of whatever colour were determined to screw lenders if they 'exploited' the poor in any way whatsoever. They did it with Wonga, and with the betting companies, now I kinda feel they are turning their guns on the unsecured lenders. It is just possible that by engaging with the customers PFG will be able to knock back any government heavy handed legislation. They (The politicians) would have a big problem if the poor could not borrow from anyone!!! I could be wrong, PFG maybe going down for ever, bad for me as I'm under water about the same as Minerve. (I was going to say "Poor old Minerve" but he's probably not half as 'poor' as me haha.) | losos | |
09/8/2017 10:48 | Your dividend is maintained, but of course you have to weigh that off against capital erosion, which you will only incur should you choose to sell. The gearing is such that it looks as if the dividend is not under threat, so the sensible thing is to buckle up and wait for the gap fill. It looks to me as if the share price is trying to put in a floor. Whether it holds will depend on the likes of AQR and their algos. The pack is now trying to bring down the wounded animal. Poor analogy, but that's what it is. Have a look at the PRU today. Results tomorrow. No company is immune from this sort of concerted attack. | penycae | |
09/8/2017 08:30 | I posted a while back questioning why they would change the model. They have tried to sell it as a more efficient customer service led change. However, what if they made the decision based on the idea that they did not want a future scandal (a la Wonga) on their hands? After all if you seriously incentivise the agents to lend more and more , is it not likely that sooner or later someone is going to get a loan that they cannot re-pay? Then could that translate into a Wonga style write off? I do not buy the dressed up improved customer service - especially as the agents have signed up elsewhere. Their clients may well get loans from the agents - because that's who they always did use - not because of interest rates or anything else. | fenners66 | |
09/8/2017 06:55 | The only problem is that if they. Did admit it then surely that's tantamount to saying that they should be sacked?? Which is why I bet they don't say it. | pnetol | |
09/8/2017 05:10 | CCNP well said. I only wish I had realised that earlier as it would have been a safe short. That said, surely management will realise that after their business has been devalued by 30% they need to reassess their decision? | andyj | |
08/8/2017 16:35 | This bunch of chimps has cost me £4K at the moment. | minerve | |
08/8/2017 16:29 | mmm, yes, perhaps they should have dipped a toe in the water first rather than jumping in at once. Beggars belief. How much do these knuckleheads and their advisors get paid? | minerve | |
08/8/2017 12:58 | I'm in today. Not expecting a quick recovery, but the fall looks overdone to me and longer term I am confident these will recover some of the loss. May well be a further drop, but risk/reward looks good to me. | andyj | |
06/8/2017 16:45 | CCNP Nice how it works that way! Never been clever enough to do those sorts of things with my own accounts! LOL | minerve |
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