Proactis Share Discussion Threads

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 12:14

If the FSP ends there might be a contractual period post end in which those involved can't take advantage in the market - hopefully.

If so that is the period in which to work to get share price recovery.

Otherwise, any interested party, can just take as much as they can upto 30% at below their offer price then make a bid.

This is worse case scenario if Proactis haven't got post end of FSP protection in place,

[lewis winthorpe] 18/1/2020 12:06

I disagree, In part re uncertainty. In that everything is public to date. Do with it what you willThe uncertainty is whether FSP will happen and confirmation of current trading position.Both will be public soon. Without the FSP this would have drifted lower anyway because lg would have been the main distraction.Actioning their 3 year strategy is the only focus. We will know at interims if its gaining traction, it will be a year come interims wont it?News on APF would be good imho too.

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 12:02

You will notice my price prediction for a sale was £0.

It has always been a sham in my eyes and the sooner they fess up to it being BS the better.

I haven't changed tune just tired of flim, flam and sham.

They have ballsed up.

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 11:59

If deep down they don't - kill it - offer clarity and move on.

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 11:49

Time to clear decks cs.
L&G out, no other ii's selling.

With the right vision it will encourage new long term investors, purge speculators, and deliver a wide shareholder base to build upon for an independent future.

If Proactis wants what's best for all stakeholders they surely realise a sale to an existing market participant will likely result in many redundancies. To a PE firm, probably fewer heads to go, but PE always want their pound of flesh and are likely to sweat assets.

Patience is wearing thin. They either want to sell the company or they don't. If they do - they have offers - get on with it.

[coldspring] 18/1/2020 11:13

Pinkfish you might not mean it but your posts today have concerned me a tad. I've seen you go from bullish to bearish then back again quite often over recent months imho not sure what is causing that? Balance is fine but seems to be a quite a swing. You seem a very knowledgeable person but the FSP will take the time it takes, no sense in shouting for it to be killed.

[cureboy] 18/1/2020 11:03

I guess we will have an update on the FSP before the AGM (surely it won’t just be sprung upon attendees on the day?). Wish I could go myself but London 10am doesn’t work for me.

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 10:37

Kill it, make a commitment to dividend re-instatement when appropriate whilst addressing debt.

MOVE ON.

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 10:35

As for Lombardier, and other institutions, their holding here are noise to them.

Look at cost vs their asset base.
It could go to zero and not really impact Lombardier. It might get a mention in the monthly factsheet but not be a career risk to the manager.

This FSP is becoming a career risk to Sykes imho, which is a shame, but soon there could be calls for a new bus driver. Purge and restart.

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 10:27

If I was a new signing customer I would want to know what's going on before making a commitment.

What plans, strategy and who will own Proactis. All part of very basic risk management. It is now becoming a hindrance imho and will hold back growth.

Seriously, it needs concluding very soon or we will see negative business impact that will become self fulfilling as valuation based on new adoptions will suffer etc.

Kill it now.

[p1nkfish] 18/1/2020 10:25

The market abhors uncertainty.
Time to turn a new leaf and plough forward without the distraction baggage for management and investors.

Screw the speculators, sooner gone the better.
Proactis management are making themselves look ridiculous and damaging the interests of the company.

[kirk 6] 18/1/2020 10:21

Anyone going agm?

[97peter] 18/1/2020 10:08

Cure - If PHD can acquire/win all the NHS Health authorities onboard in 2020 or even 80% of them, then the share price will be above 200p without the need for an FSP or the bidders will have to up there game to 310p. So they need to conclude FSP now or walk away.!!

[cureboy] 18/1/2020 09:02

Let’s not forget Lombard Odier doubled their holding a month or so before the FSP was announced - that’s a major show of confidence. No Ii (apart from L&G, for reasons unknown) have sold. This is also a show of confidence. The sells are swiftly hoovered up by a grateful accumulator at 25k a time, by and large. As for the FSP the likely explanation is it’s taking time simply because there are 2 or 3 serious bidders who have to appeal to the BoD and Ii’s. It’s been 6 months which is to be expected. We are very close to offers IMO.

[weatherman] 18/1/2020 08:18

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[kirk 6] 17/1/2020 17:46

800 k traded

[p1nkfish] 17/1/2020 17:08

Some declared after hours, 100k+ in total.

[kirk 6] 17/1/2020 16:48

The good thing is there have been no more holding rns so we know for sure the trades today are l&g

[lewis winthorpe] 17/1/2020 16:47

L&G have been selling since August last year. No wonder it's been depressed.

It will jump on the interim run in to around 60p, then it will jump to £1 or more on any bid.

[kirk 6] 17/1/2020 16:37

Biggest volume day in a good time another one like this and we will be flying

[p1nkfish] 17/1/2020 16:31

2 days back I was expecting about 8 more trading days of overhang.

[p1nkfish] 17/1/2020 16:31

Might see some after hours published trades too. Sooner gone the better.