Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Proactis Holdings Plc LSE:PHD London Ordinary Share GB00B13GSS58 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  1.00 2.41% 42.50 42.00 43.00 42.50 40.70 41.50 475,029 12:12:01
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Software & Computer Services 52.2 3.7 5.4 7.9 40

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
19/3/2019
22:16
Cynical Sid if the true/real interpretation of the financial numbers are what you say then can you explain why the iis have been selling and the mkt has reduced the share price from the last bounce peak of 45p to 29p today ? ---- dont you think your view/reading of the nos. might perhaps...maybe...possibly...be wrong ?
smithie6
19/3/2019
21:19
Dear oh dear. Still people quoting the smelly EBITDA numbers. People deserve what they get IMVHO.
eezymunny
19/3/2019
21:00
Another 1.7 /1.8m sold by the big guns showing today. Anyday now and this rebounds
sunnybeachboy
19/3/2019
16:47
Market cap £27m, debt £40mTurnover £53m and EBITDA £10-15m
cynical sid
19/3/2019
16:45
Bought more at 29.25p...quite a decent position now. Hopefully we will start to see a bottom. EV for business including all debt less than £70m which seems crazy.
cynical sid
19/3/2019
10:59
nett debt 40mn ...if I remember correctly the bank debt is ~49mn & there is/was ~ 9mn cash...or is my memory slipping... 49mn....whopping.. with cap. value of the shares at 28mn..... the ratio of debt over cap. value (49/28) is not good...& shows that the mkt is not happy....as we msg brd readers all know already ---- 20mn new facility would be supported by clients invoices...& not by PHD assets imo....so it is imo largely irrelevant to the solidity wrt PHD debts/loans
smithie6
19/3/2019
10:30
re: the debt, there is a poster on l-s-e who had been in touch with company and reported: "There is no intention to go to market for any funding round. The Company is not in breach of its covenants (otherwise it would have announced that it was). On the contrary, the Company enjoys a strong and supportive relationship with its bank, HSBC, who has just signed an additional facility of £20m to support a specific product within the Group's prospective growth plans."
mister md
19/3/2019
09:57
There are now 3 Institutions selling this They still have circa 13% left between them All still have above 3% each
buywell3
19/3/2019
09:47
imho they must have surely broken the loan conditions I think my rough calc was a debt of 6-8 times the cash being generated....much higher than what most lenders would accept (3 , 4 phps ?) & that may well be why iis are selling despite the share price being a fraction of what it was at last cash raise....so clearly they dont like the story/situation...nor the dirs since they 'basically' are not buying....at all I got out as the "last" !! bounce failed to continue...avoiding a 25% fall since then....phew.. ---- considering if you would buy the whole co. if you had the cash ...is a great valuation method imo ..at the moment I wouldnt pay anything to buy this co....due to the big debt and client retention problems...& poor sales 'pipeline' ...& poor info flow to the mkt.
smithie6
19/3/2019
09:39
Apparently the loans have a 2.5x LTM EBITDA covenant. Not clear what the EBITDA includes (generally a lot more adjustments than they make in filings), but they're likely going to be pretty close to their limits. More likely that they renegotiate headroom (and give a bit of a higher rate) with HSBC than capital raise, but its not off the table.
durthur
19/3/2019
09:15
That's exactly right, nobody knows! People guess - often in the form of predictions which they try to make sound very convincing. I bought in at what I thought was near the bottom wrongly at 40p but as long as I'm somewhere close then I can live with it. Ive averaged down several times since, but i wont do it again now. Its time to let it play itself out. Let's see what happens over the next few weeks/months!
eggbird
19/3/2019
08:50
Hey, I don't predict 10p. That's just a scenario if revenues keep falling, loan covenants breached, followed by fund raise. None of those on the cards right now AFAICS (tho we're not told what covenants etc are on the bank loans)... I'd be surprised if it falls much further from here but you know, nobody really knows...
eezymunny
19/3/2019
08:42
something just doesn't look right here...more II's selling including the main shareholder too?
pre
19/3/2019
08:38
I’m in at 10 p
gripfit
19/3/2019
08:34
Well done Eezymoney. I sold mine on the bounce for a quick profit, thanks to him. But so far he called this right, it has gone further down, but no where near the 10p yet.
escapetohome
19/3/2019
08:20
Oh dear dave
depjoe
19/3/2019
05:26
You ... .... . horse .. ..... ... you .... .... ... drink
buywell3
18/3/2019
23:11
"all variables are [correctly] priced in to the chart" not true imo eg. the 2 big drops in the share price chart...from 200p..were not predicted by the chart shape at that moment
smithie6
18/3/2019
22:27
Perhaps they are a bit ashamed to own up to dropping one I did try to warn folks NOBODY can beat Mr Market See ... all variables when you think about it are priced into the chart shape
buywell2
18/3/2019
21:52
There has been a buyer taking large chunks of these over the last week so a TR1 is quite possible but waiting for it is somewhat painful.
coldspring
18/3/2019
20:23
no, the whole stockmarket has climbed 10% since start of the year. This share has been trashed. There hasn't even been a technical bounce, some were expecting one today ... hard to see what can stop the trend, a buyer RNS perhaps, but how likely is that ?
mister md
18/3/2019
19:37
The whole stock market is very stagnant at the moment with only a few movers. I wouldn't worry about the price on this at the moment
sunnybeachboy
18/3/2019
17:42
If you read buywell's posts you would already know that Mister MD18 Mar '19 - 14:22 - 2681 of 2708 was that the price capitulation or is there more to come ?
buywell2
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