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Premier Tec Ser LSE:PTSG London Ordinary Share GB00BV9FPW93 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 147.50p 145.00p 150.00p 147.50p 147.50p 147.50p 11,497 08:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Electronic & Electrical Equipment 52.9 1.8 1.4 107.7 181.70

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
11/1/2019
00:01
Interesting that you should say that immediately after one of my posts which spells out specifically a risk which no-one else has pointed out at all :o)) The profit forecasts I talk about are those from the various analysts. They're nothing to do with me! You say yourself that up until Carillion they had not had bad debts - and even the Carillion debt was pretty small fry. And the reason for that? It was because PTSG were well aware of Carillion's problems and had adjusted their business with them accordingly. That's why I rate the management highly. It's obvious to everyone that PTSG's cash flows are typically poor as per its sector. I've never stated otherwise and have never dismissed such comments AFAIK, lightly or otherwise. I'd be interested to see specific instances where I have if so. But despite the cash flows, I believe PTSG are a very well-run company and are cheap at the current price - and much of their income emanates from blue chip companies or governmental organisations who will always pay up, even if over a lengthy time frame. OT : it's amusing really. I've been here successfully since 2002, yet still some love to point out the inevitable losers in one's portfolio like GMAA rather than highlight the many multibaggers like ACSO, VLE, KWS, RNWH, SDI, FDP, PEG, IDEA, ETO, SOM etc.... As for GMAA, it could still easily be a big winner from here imho. I wouldn't be invested there otherwise. I guess you didn't read my recent posts 1323 and 1339 over there for example, which actually raised negatives, but then that wouldn't suit your preconceived idea....
rivaldo
10/1/2019
20:12
rivaldo>> the profit forecasts you keep raising include significant levels of debtors. Despite the CXO saying that he is not concerned about the level of debtors and up until Carillion they had not had any bad debts - they lost around £300k to Carillion. PTSG are sub contractors for a large part of their turnover and developers/FM providers have a poor record paying subcontractors.Many small subcontractors are ruined by large "intermediary" companies winning loss making contracts and squeezing sub contractors to make a profit. Whilst PTSG is clearly not in this small category the impact on forecast revenue of bad debts is a consideration for PTSG. Whilst I appreciate your posts you do tend to dismiss rather lightly comments that are negative about the shares where you are invested in. eg GMAA IMHO that devalues the credibility of the positive posts you make.
twirl
10/1/2019
14:34
As previously posted, based upon the current forecast of 12.43p EPS for this year, PTSG are on a 2019 P/E of only 12.3. Assuming that PTSG will soon be on the acquisition path again given the cash pile, one can see that P/E dropping to just 10 or 11. Hopefully too the upcoming trading update will indicate that PTSG traded at least in line with expectations for last year, especially with the very positive outlook in late September. Of course threeputt, if they miss then the share price will react appropriately, as it would for any company. I can't particularly see any reason why they would do so given that recent outlook except perhaps in incurring additional costs related to the overall growth being experienced, especially in Fire Solutions. But a P/E of 12.3 - with further earnings-enhancing acquisitions likely - means very little expectation is in the share price at the current 152.5p.
rivaldo
10/1/2019
12:54
I've watched with interest the dialogue of late here and I have some sympathy with Eezy's views to an extent. Having bought originally at a low level (below £1) when I felt the risk was negligible I effectively sold the lot between 180 & 210 apart from a few other trades . I've thought about reentering as it is a good company and personally sentimental but I have to remind myself that there is a lot of expectation built into the share price now, that leaves it with little room for substantial upward movement imo and a good deal of potential risk to the downside if they miss expectations to any degree.
threeputt
10/1/2019
12:04
Yes well, they'll be completing contracts that won't be repeating as well. It's called business. But no-one posts about the completed contracts. Just the new ones. Which is pretty pointless IMO. I mean if they are completing contracts of a total value higher than the new ones then profits will start to collapse, no? PS Tesco just sold a dozen eggs...
eezymunny
10/1/2019
10:07
Hoovering up these contracts.
rp19
10/1/2019
10:04
Oops - I didn't remember that one :o)) More news today - a prestigious win (and definitely not posted before!): Http://www.ptsg.co.uk/news/electrical-services/ptsg-to-go-to-work-at-dyson-institute/ "PTSG to go to work at Dyson Institute Premier Technical Services Group PLC (PTSG) has been contracted to deliver electrical services at the Dyson Institute of Engineering and Technology (DIET). Engineers from the Group’s electrical services division (West Midlands and South West) will attend the site in Malmesbury where they will install a new lightning and surge protection system at the institute’s new accommodation facility. The main contractor is Beard Construction. The Dyson Institute was founded by the renowned inventor, designer and engineer James Dyson to address a skill shortage in engineering in the UK. In September 2017, the first student cohort enrolled for the B.Eng degree."
rivaldo
09/1/2019
10:34
I see nothing wrong with the business itself; only concern is whether the profits accrue fairly to the shareholders other than Directors, continue to hold a small number.
mw8156
09/1/2019
08:25
Masurenbigboy. Of course you have big winners and small losers and you're a genius. We all believe you. Sure. If you want to prove it try running a portfolio with real time updates (I did). Any muppet can claim big wins and small losses after the event. That's generally the behaviour of a loser IMVHO....
eezymunny
09/1/2019
07:17
Another very useful multi-year contract win for the Fire Services division: Http://www.ptsg.co.uk/news/fire-solutions/its-can-do-for-ptsg-in-canning-town/ "Premier Technical Services Group PLC (PTSG) has been contracted for a major project to deliver a range of fire solutions at Brunel Street Works – a residential-lead regeneration scheme in Canning Town, London. Galliford Try Partnership is constructing 975 mixed-tenure homes at the site off Silvertown Way in Canning Town on behalf of Opal, a joint venture between Galliford Try and Thames Valley Housing. The £400m development project, which has a four-year construction programme, will see the homes built across five distinct blocks, ranging from nine to 26 storeys in height. PTSG’s Fire Solutions division (north-west branch, formerly UKS) will deliver wet/dry risers, commercial and residential sprinkler systems across the whole project. The project illustrates PTSG’s rapidly growing capability in Fire Solutions. Since it was established in 2017, Fire Solutions has become the Group’s second-largest division and as demand continues to grow, it could become the largest. PTSG delivers multiple niche specialist services and often forms sustainable relationships with clients who benefit from access and safety, electrical services and building access solutions, also offered by the Group."
rivaldo
08/1/2019
12:52
LOL - EezyMunny, you are just a total prize prat, exhibiting typical troll behaviour ! You want to chastise me by picking on a small investment (FTC), which I dropped about a grand on, and an existing middle level investment (TAP) - which I still hold and am confident will come good and which you know absolutely nothing about - to suggest that I don't know what I'm doing "Just a few seconds considering the risks you were taking might have saved you! Effing unbelievable you lot". Nobody gets a 100% right but I have found that the key to successful investing is to be prepared to cut your losers and ride your winners. You ignored these two which happened to be 2 of my 3 biggest investments. I cleared a good 6 figure profit on ETO and just under a 6 figure profit - excluding dividends - on CMS. But then you are such a smart investor and the rest of us clearly don't have a clue ! Masurenguy 19 Oct '18 - 16:06 - 2612 of 2624 0 11 0 I have been gradually liquidating my residual position in ETO over the past 3 weeks and today I sold my final tranche in order to complete my exit. With today's share sales, my overall average exit price over the past 3 weeks was 417p. I have been an investor here for 8 years having bought my first tranche on 30 September 2010. With additional investments, and participation in the rights issue a couple of years ago, my average share cost price was just below 100p so this has been just over a 4 bagger for me over that period. https://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=34285969&from=2612 Masurenguy 31 Oct '18 - 18:35 - 1784 of 17970 3 1 Well just back to discover the news following a 10 days break in Asia after deliberately not taking my laptop with me in order to have a complete break. Interesting development and on balance I'm fairly happy with the outcome. I sold 50% of my shares at an average price of 61p last December and, with 71p due on the remaining 50%, I will average out at 66p per share overall, which gives me just over a 100% capital gain before taking dividends into account over the past 8 years (16.88p). Shame to lose a yield of over 8% on my average investment cost but the capital gain is welcome since the shareprice has been in the doldrums over the past few years with little indication that the market was suddenly likely to accord it fair value going forward. https://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/thread.php3?id=33745242&from=1784 Incidentally, with PTSG - a share you "wouldn't touch with a bargepole" I am currently circa 60% up in just over 2 years so methinks your bargepole is a rather useless implement, just like you !
masurenguy
08/1/2019
12:06
The share price is moving up nicely again, as it has almost every day since the New Year. Based upon the current forecast of 12.43p EPS for this year, PTSG are on a 2019 P/E of only 12.3. Assuming that PTSG will soon be on the acquisition path again given the cash pile, one can see that P/E dropping to just 10 or 11. Hopefully too the upcoming trading update will indicate that PTSG traded at least in line with expectations for last year, especially given the very positive outlook in late September.
rivaldo
08/1/2019
11:32
Dear Masurengy TAP "initially invested here @297p earlier in the year" FTC "managed at get out @9p first thing taking a 48% bath" Just a few seconds considering the risks you were taking might have saved you! Yours trolly Effing unbelievable you lot...
eezymunny
08/1/2019
10:54
Go troll elsewhere!
masurenguy
08/1/2019
10:04
I've NEVER said I "don't rate the prospects". Just that I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole. Those are two very different things... At least my comments have been clear and factual. The ability of people to accept and consider some negative comments about their holdings remains, as ever, pretty much zero IMO. Just childish defensiveness. The wish to post largely irrelevant rampy stuff remains, as ever, off the scale. Which is why the average Joe is so utterly useless at this game IMO...
eezymunny
08/1/2019
09:51
The only "weird behaviour" on this thread comes from you. Since you evidently don't rate the prospects and are not invested in PTSG, what is the point of your continuous sarcasm and negative commentary here. Don't you have anything positive to focus your attention on elsewhere!
masurenguy
08/1/2019
09:39
"No current debt" you say Masurenguy. Maybe not with rump of placing proceeds and IF they've generated some free cash flow in H2. But there was c. £15.8m of non current debt as at last balance sheet. Pointing out stuff like "no current debt" strikes me as painting a rather blurry picture. Why not just quote a net debt figure? Weird behaviour if you ask me. I remember TRAK muddying the water in similar fashion before the share price crashed from 300p to 20p!
eezymunny
08/1/2019
09:02
Good progress still being made here and with a positive cashflow, no current debt and circa £8m in the bank following the placing, the shareprice should start to head north again during the next few months. PTSG is primarily involved in maintenance, cleaning, fire protection and safety on existing high rise buildings so if there is any decline in new construction it is unlikely to really impact their business.
masurenguy
08/1/2019
08:53
From SHI today "As previously reported, the UK construction environment became increasingly challenging in the second half of 2018" So I suppose investors here should be alert to the possibility that the amount of work for the likes of PTSG will start to fall.
eezymunny
03/1/2019
14:08
Thanks Rivaldo Understand point re acquisition timing....just that the company indicated expected year end completion but as far as i can see there has been no further info on this.... Fingers crossed for a positive update shortly.....
jaf111
03/1/2019
12:34
Indeed - last year's update was on 16th January, so not long to go. Acquisitions are often tricky to time - when I saw them present I seem to remember PTSG saying that the previous Fire division acquisition took 6-9 months to complete. Better to be safe than sorry in that regard. PTSG's track record is excellent, so if acquisitions take a little longer then expected then fair enough (mind you, they shouldn't really have put a time frame on the potential acquisition as that's inviting trouble!).
rivaldo
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