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Powerhouse Energy Group Plc LSE:PHE London Ordinary Share GB00B4WQVY43 ORD 0.5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.03 0.94% 3.23 3.20 3.30 3.33 3.20 3.25 5,249,902 16:35:27
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Alternative Energy 0.0 -1.7 -0.1 - 120

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01/1/2020
16:29
Happy new year! This would be an interesting development for PHE htTps://investors.nationalgrid.com/debt-investors/green-financing/greenfinancing
cmackay
31/12/2019
16:54
Happy New Year to everyone when it comes, including Tewksbury!
vatnabrekk
31/12/2019
15:58
I think you are being very unfair their Tewksbury the point is the market has accepted the new valuation based on the deal going through It was deccer a known negative who suggested we fall back but that's what he wants The neg heads and the market makers are all going to be very surprised by where this is going.
whatsthepoint
31/12/2019
14:27
Very harsh, Tewkesbury, please do not post again as the last thing this thread needs is you. There are other phe threads for 'posters with attitude'.
tenapen
31/12/2019
13:27
vatnabrek please do not comment as everything you write seems to show your ignorance.
tewkesbury
31/12/2019
13:05
If the market (MMs) suspected that this deal was seriously dilutive, surely they would have dropped the share price immediately rather than wait for it to happen. Instead, it seems the market is pushing the share price upwards.
vatnabrekk
31/12/2019
12:12
If the takeover ever gets approval I bet the mm's will drop the price back down to 0.3p afterwards as the dilution kicks in.
deccer1
31/12/2019
11:49
Are you seriously saying PHE will buy W2T then not take on any of their staff? Nonsense. Not even Howard White and his son? What about Tim Yeo who recently left the Board of another of the trio of related parties AFC and joined W2T? Do you realise that a large shareholder like HW would be in PHE, would be legally entitled to a place on the Board? He could not be stopped from joining the Board even if you wanted to stop him imo. PHE could take on W2T staff and pay them in cash plus confetti dilutive PHE shares. +++++++++++ Ken Chung 31 Dec '19 - 11:02 - 11352 of 11356 Edit I assume all senior W2T employees will join PHE in the merger with related party W2T, with Howard White and other W2T Board members taking places on the Board of PHE. PHE currently have around 5 officers. W2T currently have around 8 officers. So the merger would more than double the senior staffing level, with substantial additional costs, etc; and basically imply W2T taking over the Board by majority. Infact PHE's CEO already came from W2T anyway. I predict Howard White will be CEO of PHE within 2 years. I am not impressed knowing the history of W2T's involvement. Afterall he set-up both companies when arguably PHE should have been doing all the work themselves in house, so preserving a larger stake of value for PHE and its shareholders. Prior to the signing of the arrangement with W2T in 2017, PHE's original CEO was previously saying they were receiving hundreds of enquiries and leads from potential customers all over the world even before W2T came on the scene. So PHE will have the additional expense of funding the extra staff, paying W2T's £500k debt and regularly diluting their own shareholders even more and profitability will be years away if ever. And they still have to get a full sized system to work, which is not guaranteed. ++++++++ Ken Chung 31 Dec '19 - 08:55 - 11345 of 11352 Edit So PHE shareholders not only face the huge dilution from AGM resolutions 6 and 7 to issue 66% more shares but now also from the shares to be issued to buy W2T awaiting approval, which they arguably never should have granted rights to anyway but instead done that work in house. Enjoy your dilution. Lemmings and mushrooms only. P.S. Why didnt PHE just buy AFC's 24% stake in W2T direct from AFC earlier this year for £20k, which was the tiny sum AFC subsequently sold it to W2T for, and for which PHE are now proposing to pay just under £1m in shares to get hold of, and almost £4m in shares to get hold of 100% of W2T? AFC's sale of their 24% stake in W2T for £20,000 earlier this year only valued 100% of W2T at £83,333. So why are PHE now paying W2T equivalent of Millions of £'s in PHE shares to buy W2T? Either AFC sold their stake for too little, or PHE are paying too much. Both cannot be right.
ken chung
31/12/2019
11:32
Keep trying they will only add staff when revenues support it.
whatsthepoint
31/12/2019
11:22
PHE currently have around 5 officers. W2T currently have around 8 officers. So the merger would more than double the senior staffing level, with substantial additional costs, etc. In a recent presentation David Ryan said he sees PHE running with about 30 staff in future. So even more expense or dilution if they are paid in shares!
ken chung
31/12/2019
11:11
Ken you still don't get it do you. There will be revenue generation for engineering work on the future 11 projects plus Dave Ryan has already stated he is getting interest from other customers for revenue engineering work. The suggested board structure will I am sure become clear in the circular to shareholders. it is highly possible with revenue and future royalties they will never ever need to raise another penny from the market.
whatsthepoint
31/12/2019
11:02
I assume all senior W2T employees will join PHE in the merger with related party W2T, with Howard White and other W2T Board members taking places on the Board of PHE. PHE currently have around 5 officers. W2T currently have around 8 officers. So the merger would more than double the senior staffing level, with substantial additional costs, etc; and basically imply W2T taking over the Board by majority. Infact PHE's CEO already came from W2T anyway. I predict Howard White will be CEO of PHE within 2 years. I am not impressed knowing the history of W2T's involvement. Afterall he set-up both companies when arguably PHE should have been doing all the work themselves in house, so preserving a larger stake of value for PHE and its shareholders. Prior to the signing of the arrangement with W2T in 2017, PHE's original CEO was previously saying they were receiving hundreds of enquiries and leads from potential customers all over the world even before W2T came on the scene. So PHE will have the additional expense of funding the extra staff, paying W2T's £500k debt and regularly diluting their own shareholders even more and profitability will be years away if ever. And they still have to get a full sized system to work, which is not guaranteed. ++++++++ Ken Chung 31 Dec '19 - 08:55 - 11345 of 11352 Edit So PHE shareholders not only face the huge dilution from AGM resolutions 6 and 7 to issue 66% more shares but now also from the shares to be issued to buy W2T awaiting approval, which they arguably never should have granted rights to anyway but instead done that work in house. Enjoy your dilution. Lemmings and mushrooms only. P.S. Why didnt PHE just buy AFC's 24% stake in W2T direct from AFC earlier this year for £20k, which was the tiny sum AFC subsequently sold it to W2T for, and for which PHE are now proposing to pay just under £1m in shares to get hold of, and almost £4m in shares to get hold of 100% of W2T? AFC's sale of their 24% stake in W2T for £20,000 earlier this year only valued 100% of W2T at £83,333. So why are PHE now paying W2T equivalent of Millions of £'s in PHE shares to buy W2T? Either AFC sold their stake for too little, or PHE are paying too much. Both cannot be right.
ken chung
31/12/2019
10:52
Shaking off today's seller nicely. Onwards and upwards
whatsthepoint
31/12/2019
10:17
That's easily a £100 million pound company being developed from here. With 100's if not 1000's of potential additional customers on proven tech. The future is bright the future is finally there for the taking for PHE. With the right board in place and the backing of a major UK landowner the sky is the limit. Not one for lemmings or mushrooms anymore.
whatsthepoint
31/12/2019
10:13
Completely different situation this year. Peel a giant company have backed this after nearly 3 years due diligence. PHE and W2T will combine to strengthen board and company structure to take this global. There is a firm order for 11 plants all to produce hydrogen at circa £14 per project that's a £150 million pipeline that should secure circa £5.5 million annual recurring revenueThat's a company making situation
whatsthepoint
31/12/2019
10:12
UK Tech Company Pioneering Hydrogen from plastic waste Negotiating to Waste2tricity Limited.
skinny
31/12/2019
09:57
That was the same argument used in 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and now again in 2019.
nelson5100
31/12/2019
09:02
You will regret having spouted such a complete load of rubbish over this technology one day. You may actually see the reason why to invest and get on board just in time. I hope you do for your own financial gain.
whatsthepoint
31/12/2019
08:55
So PHE shareholders not only face the huge dilution from AGM resolutions 6 and 7 to issue 66% more shares but now also from the shares to be issued to buy W2T awaiting approval, which they arguably never should have granted rights to anyway but instead done that work in house. Enjoy your dilution. Lemmings and mushrooms only. P.S. Why didnt PHE just buy AFC's 24% stake in W2T direct from AFC earlier this year for £20k, which was the tiny sum AFC subsequently sold it to W2T for, and for which PHE are now proposing to pay just under £1m in shares to get hold of, and almost £4m in shares to get hold of 100% of W2T? AFC's sale of their 24% stake in W2T for £20,000 earlier this year only valued 100% of W2T at £83,333. So why are PHE now paying W2T equivalent of Millions of £'s in PHE shares to buy W2T? Either AFC sold their stake for too little, or PHE are paying too much. Both cannot be right.
ken chung
30/12/2019
18:03
Quite a lot I would imagine being clearly the biggest shareholder of W2T. And a major shareholder in PHE We will find out soon enough. I doubt they will take it over 30% as I am sure they don't want to bid for the entire business. Not really an issue in my mind though. Will just mean a lot of sticky shares and smaller free float. They have already stated 87.5% of acquired shares will have one year lock in so not a major issue
whatsthepoint
30/12/2019
17:55
That's a good question nelson. And a rather important one.
vatnabrekk
30/12/2019
17:39
What percentage of the proposed combined entity will the White family control?
nelson5100
30/12/2019
17:37
Time to raid the piggy banks and build a stake. That's what I believe the smart investors have been doing. In September I saw multiple 2.5 million buys at circa .40p someone gobbled up a lot of stock. Looks like a smart move now. The city will not be able to influence this as easily as they have been able to whilst we have been running on fumes. The new deal and known revenue stream changes that
whatsthepoint
30/12/2019
17:36
Gestalt theory emphasises that the whole of anything is greater than its parts. That is, the attributes of the whole are not deducible from analysis of the parts in isolation. The word Gestalt is used in modern German to mean the way a thing has been “placed,”; or “put together”. There is no exact equivalent in English.
cmackay
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