Now here's a proper honest report: |
Get another demo a.s.a.p. using actual waste plastic not plastic beads that could have otherwise been used to make actual plastic products. |
Dont often agree with you but you are on the money here . Its all a naive disgrace , What will steady the ship now ?? |
Jack Knife - What did it say? |
What a spectacular own goal . Get out before finish time i think |
What a load of rubbish JakNife! |
DYNAMITE EXPOSE: Powerhouse Energy seeks to bamboozle its own shareholders |
 Graham,
Below is what was said on inviting people to the presentation. That is in line with what happpened in my opinion. At the end of the day as the business is to run on licensing the techonology it is what the individual licecensees want to see which is the issue [maybe requiring different temperaturs]. If the processs cannot do that we will see no take-up. However given the Aioxx interest and Australian interest prusamably they both are happy it can work for them. If it works for others wanting to process unsorted. unwashed mixed m!aterrials,remains to be seen. As I understand it they will be asked to bring along samples for it to be demonstrated in Cardiff that it works for them. If so bingo, and don't forget the "Char".
"Powerhouse has developed a process technology which can utilise waste plastic, end-of-life-tyres, and other waste streams to convert them efficiently and economically into syngas from which valuable products such as chemical precursors, hydrogen, electricity, heat and other industrial products may be derived. PHE's process produces low levels of safe residues and requires a small operating footprint, making it suitable for deployment at enterprise and community level. |
Graham, I think we can assume that Paul Emmitt and the PHE engineers who are working on this project know what they are doing, and that they are fully aware of how to handle the various feedstocks. Has it not occurred to you that they might have thought these things through a long time ago? |
Big mistake going for investor presentation using products that can be recycled for added value. The whole idea was for it to be used for non recyclable products however even if they do eventually use non recyclable products cannot see the DMG producing sufficient or quality syngas. Incinerating non recyclables to produce electricity is going to be far cheaper than trying to produce syngas then converting to electricity or hydrogen. What happens if non sorted plastic contains metal paper foil etc etc. How will this effect the the kiln long term. Nice idea but that’s about it unfortunately. |
I'm sure!
I believe Kuwait has been setting up tyres recycling factories for several years now, to reduce the tyres graveyards. |
Yeh many of them sent there by us! |
In case anyone's interested, only about 15% of tyres are recycled worldwide, but in the UK about 100% of tyres are recycled or re-used. So in the UK no-one will be processing shredded tyres through a DMG. But that might be a viable feedstock elsewhere in the world especially where there are massive tyres graveyards to clear up. |
Yep, noticed that before! |
Sound like the big unit worked well, and they used different inputs, thats great.
This is going to be an interesting year especially when the right eyes get a good look at it.
Can't see the negative comments on here because they were all blocked ages ago. They always seem to turn up when positive news arrives, I wonder why. |
Poor you ..... I touch a nerve
Hahaha
You have a lovely weekend jaknife - kisses |
tenapen,
"Good to know jaknife keeps a keen interest. Just a shame your distorting the facts. But then ....."
Feel free to specify exactly what you claim that I am "distorting". In the absence of anything specific I will simply assume that this is you crying "wah wah wah, the nasty man said horrible things about the share, wah wah wah"!
JakNife |
In Paul Emmitt and team we trust
Good weekend All. |
Good to know jaknife keeps a keen interest. Just a shame your distorting the facts. But then ..... |
Jaknife - You are entitled to your opinion but if you believe they are lying you should do something about it but I sense you were not there either.
LOL |
its all a bit sickening |
Smokey 1o3,
"As I understand it on the shareholders day it was made clear that poly plastic pellets were being used as they are still optimising the unit. Using a “native” polymer meant they could be 100% sure of the polymer composition going in and therefore use it to optimise the Syngas composition out."
If that's what the company told you then they are lying. There has always been a problem with making sure that no oxygen gets into the unit and the way that PHE have dealt with that is by carefully controlling the feedstock that they put in.
I would remind you of my prediction in post 22,658
"I have little doubt that PHE will be able to make it appear that something is working in front of shareholders, after all they have done that before. Back in 2017 PHE demonstrated the "G3-UHt" prototype to shareholders to get them rabidly salivating, so much so that multiple placings followed. However, the "G3-UHt" prototype only ever worked on pure (non-waste) feedstock and never functioned commercially.
In total PHE have been building waste to gas units since 2002 (page 14 of AIM Admission document). 22 years of complete and utter ineptitude later, multiple false RNSs, numerous wild claims of sales that never actually materialised and not a single commercial functioning unit has ever been produced.
It seems reckless to assume that PHE will be able to do anything more than they've done before - demonstrate a unit to the baying crowd in order to raise some funds and then run off with the money for seven years before coming back to fleece the crowd again ... just like last time!"
JakNife |
As I understand it on the shareholders day it was made clear that poly plastic pellets were being used as they are still optimising the unit. Using a “native” polymer meant they could be 100% sure of the polymer composition going in and therefore use it to optimise the Syngas composition out.
As has been noted pellet is not a waste. However, tyre crumb [also used on the day] is, dependent upon its composition. It makes sense to optimise the system before utilising it. When they run client days they will be asked to provide their own waste and it will be run.
To my mind the team did the right thing and has met all its milestones, only to be met here by howls of disappointment. I think that is unfair and they deserve every support at this critical stage of commercialisation.
Its onwards and upwards I say! |
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