Powerhouse Energy Share Discussion Threads

[ken chung] 03/7/2018 23:00

Are you happy?

[ken chung] 03/7/2018 22:38

Are you happy?

[tenapen] 03/7/2018 17:43

supernumerary,
I have posted many times off the many years i have been trapped here. Even though im way under water with the prices i have paid in the past. Todays PHE is still very high risk but it just may be the right company at the right time as regards the plastic waste that covers the planet, and the making of Hydrogen from that waste to power our cars & buses ! perfect !.



Do not risk what you can not aford to loose as you may not get back .... any of your money.

Regards.

[supernumerary] 03/7/2018 17:10

Some quotes from the annual report:

"For the two years prior to January 2017, the Company had been exclusively focused on the development and initial testing of the G3-UHt Unit, our process demonstrator"

"Final engineering design followed by independent verification of DMG® on track for completion."

So after three and a half years, in which they focused exclusively on this demonstrator, they still haven't completed engineering design, let alone performed independent validation of its operation. Nor are they giving a firm date for these two vital activities.

Yet they've been trying to convince investors that they'll have a commercial system operating by the end of the year, with multiple examples rolled out worldwide over the next couple of years.

Hardly surprising that some of us express a certain incredulity, is it?

[tenapen] 03/7/2018 14:37

Quote;
"Then the comment about the chamber will stand up to the heat. That's my whole point it's not been tested for long enough to establish that it will. A pilot plant under a strict control tests is not evidence of long term industrial use capability."






Thinking back to my history lessons at school. The above paragraph was widly said when A.G Bell said he had inventored the telephone. ;-)


Nae tis madness, canni be dun.

[nelson5100] 03/7/2018 13:43

Vatnabrekk, you always single out me highlighting the lack of director share purchases. Yet the company is being hyped and ramped as a ground breaking technology , will solve the world's waste problem, generate electricity and hydrogen from waste and be a multi bagger.

Yet their total purchases are miniscule.
You don't like me highlighting this, fair enough.But it is relevant and it allows other users of the board to consider bits impact if any.

So why don't you criticise all the cut and pasted on here and the LSE board who post anything with the word hydrogen or those that post hypothetical profits from a 25tpd that isn't even started to be built?

No one word of criticism of them.
So I will continue to highlight the directors share holdings, the errors in the share allotment forms.

Lastly, for £20,000 you expect not to have any errors in an audited set of accounts.
Cough cough.

[vatnabrekk] 03/7/2018 12:33

nelson, my post wasn't referring to any of the things that you are going on about. I was referring to one point and one point only - your remarks about the directors shareholdings. I have not been ramping, I have said nothing about allowing or disallowing any form of scrutiny of the company, nor any criticism of the company. I have no problem with any of that, as I have pointed out to you many, many times.

Yet you choose to ignore all of that, you ignore what I have asked in my previous post, and as always you change the subject back to the same old same old and never engage in any form of discussion, just keep on asking questions on this BB and the lse BB that you know full well none of the posters are in a position to answer.

[nelson5100] 03/7/2018 11:50

Tetchy there Vatnabrekk.
Why all the ramping allowed yet no reasonable points about the company or its RNS?

How very convenient for the press to get the information, a non listed company to publish full details yet its partner company issues a holding RNS with no details.

Presumably you will also be stopping all the postings which have the word hydrogen in as the only relevance to this site?

So what projects have Tresoil Biofuels SRL been involved in?
What business experience does the the consultant who is negotiating with Toyota have and is she connected with Dystopia Media Limited?

Will you now be commenting on any of the rampers' posts.

[1renard] 03/7/2018 11:26

I would love to buy in to this story but the lack of verifiable progress is what is holding me back. Potentially like VRS with ground breaking tech and multiple applications. But something feels wrong. Not buying until I have clear evidence that this will be REAL.

[vatnabrekk] 03/7/2018 10:57

How often do we have to cover this ground, nelson? We've been over it, and over it, and you've had the explanations from posters on this BB and on the lse BB, as well as from the CEO himself. So instead of repeating the same old same old, why don't you go back and study the explanations that have been given already, and then explain why it is that you don't accept / ignore these explanations.

[nelson5100] 03/7/2018 10:37

Bobbyb4..if all the hype is correct then why have the directors have such miniscule holdings?
It appears that the technical director and chairman neither of them hold shares in the company.

If it is such a ground breaking technology and potential multi bagger would you not expect to see the directors buying into this investment?

[mertymcs] 03/7/2018 09:55

Still need to clear the placee sellers as they make their 10%.Any whiff of liquidity and they are out selling.

[vatnabrekk] 03/7/2018 08:56

I see the MMs have been on a fishing trip. I wonder if they caught anything worthwhile!

[superg1] 03/7/2018 08:40

Bobby

I'd love this type of tech to work, BUT check out the previous news of the pyromex tech which reads the same as this.

Disappeared to Acs for while which didn't work out, then appeared in the UK with new world changing kit that will make billions.

Jeez it sounds like a West Africa email scam. Plenty fall for those too.

[nobbygnome] 03/7/2018 08:37

Well I sold a million as one of the placees at the recent fund raising. I suspect that is where a lot of the shares came from. No great mystery....

[bobbyb4] 03/7/2018 07:56

So do you want the technology to succeed are you supportive of PHE’s ability to make it happen?

Would you like Toyota to fund a new hydrogen production plant to help achieve commercial success

[nelson5100] 03/7/2018 07:52

Technology that is commercially successful is very good for everyone.
Meanwhile, a public company is trading on aim and raising money so should be scrutinized.

As I have asked before what successful projects has Tresoil Biofuels SRL been involved with and following yesterday's announcement what is the business background of the consultant mentioned in the W2T statement.

Is she connected with Dystopia Media Limited which has a 27 director of the same name and previously had Howard White as a director?

Not unreasonable questions to ask.

[bobbyb4] 03/7/2018 06:56

Public scrutiny is an admiral thing to do. But my question was do you negative posters want the technology to succeed ? Would you like the solution of hydrogen from waste plastic to be available to the likes of Toyota. Is it just this company and it's officers you have an issue with or is it the technology you have a problem with. By all means find faults and highlight them guess you are all perfectionists and highlighting other people's mistakes makes you feel better about yourself. I myself can forgive a few careless errors on forms as long as the technology that will clearly help bring about major improvements in air quality particularly in big cities is encouraged and given the opportunity to prove itself. And highlighting the change in direction for the worlds energy needs is very appropriate to a fledgling business that could if successful take a very decent slice of the new cake for its self and the benefit of its fledgling shareholders. All part of good research to understand a companies growth prospects and this its future valuation. I am sure all shareholders know that there are risks and this have to weigh up the pros and the cons. So researching the prospects and the history of the company which has clearly been very chequered is an important factor. But some can't see the woods for the trees. Ask your self how big could the Hydrogen economy become if as looks highly likely that petrol and diesel is going to be phased out in many countries between 2030/40 And imagine how new small forward thinking companies could grow into that new environment, they won't all succeed but some will become the new leaders and go to companies or be a very important part of a wider new technology. Companies have to be aware of the changes and I am sure The likes of Toyota are very interested in an alternative new clean way to produce the fuel they firmly believe will replace petrol and diesel So yesterday's announcement is one of the cons that new and existing shareholders should consider and place their bets accordingly. The negative posters still want shareholders to concentrate to heavily on the past though and that's what concerns me. So please answer the original question do you want the technology of converting plastic and end of life tyres into pure hydrogen to succeed. A simple yes or no will do.

[nelson5100] 03/7/2018 06:18

So public scrutiny of a public company traded on Aim isn't allowed? Shareholders enjoy the privileges of limited liability but don't want to accept the responsibility of compliance with all the rules and regulations and scrutiny of the company?

Now why is that Bobbyb4 ? Only rampers would disagree with scrutiny of the company.

Let's take yesterday's RNS. Sensible questions have been asked including what is the background and business experience of the consultant described in the W2T statement.

Having the the two companies creates the situation where one can publish full pages of information without having to adhere to any Aim rules. The other company has to comply with the Companies Act and Aim rules and so only the bland RNS is issued.

From that we have posters cutting and pasting every bit about any country in south East Asia and the word hydrogen.

Yet the company has not even started to build its first commercial unit. It can't even file share allotment forms without errors in them, out by factors of 10 and 100.

Will it be building a 250tpd unit or even a 2,500tpd unit using the same accuracy????

[bobbyb4] 02/7/2018 23:50

With a strong domestic car manufacturing base, South Korea is amongst the global leaders in the adoption of hydrogen-powered fuel cell vehicles, alongside Germany, Japan, and California. In February 2018, the South Korean Government announced plans to deploy 310 hydrogen stations across the country by 2022 in a public-private partnership45.In February 2018, South Korea hosted a meeting of the Hydrogen Council46, which is a global initiative of leading energy, transport and industry companies with a united vision and long-term ambition for hydrogen. The Hydrogen Council was active at the recent Clean Energy Ministerial meeting in Sweden and at COP23 in Berlin in November 2017. It operates at the highest level in promoting hydrogen across the world.I guess we could see a lot of DMG plants in Korea as well

[bobbyb4] 02/7/2018 23:48

Japan is perhaps the pioneer country for developing a hydrogen economy, in response to the Fukushima disaster and being heavily reliant on imported fossil fuels. In March 2018, the Japanese Government updated its hydrogen strategy44 which is being led by the Ministry of Economy, Trade & Industry. Across all sectors, the strategy envisions "massive amounts of hydrogen" and an exponential increase in the deployment of vehicles, filling stations and power systems through the 2020s. Notably, Japan is nurturing an international supply chain in liquefied hydrogen involving supertankers as an evolution from LNG.And now we know they are also talking to PHE through W2TI wonder how many DMG units they will require ??

[bobbyb4] 02/7/2018 23:34

Very odd so many posters don't want such a great technology to get from the drawing board and test plant to commercial production Odd that so many don't want to see tons of hydrogen for emmisions free motoring whilst also eradicating plastic waste and end of life tyres Why would that be !!!!It can't just be they like to portray that they are so clever and they want to save any investor from making a silly mistake !! Why not just short it and make a killing if they are proved right But it's not easy to short unless you are a market maker with a naked short position waiting to cover during normal activities So I do wish the negative posters would explain why they want the technology to fail Any one care to answer

[supernumerary] 02/7/2018 16:23

I presume that it's this Anna Mariya Yordanova:



who lists her occupation as 'Freelance Creative Director & Journalist' at Dystopia Media Ltd. Certainly seems to have the right qualifications for service at PHE ;¬)