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PPG Plutus Powergen Plc

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18 Mar 2024 - Closed
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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Plutus Powergen Plc LSE:PPG London Ordinary Share GB00B1GDWB47 ORD 0.01P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 0.025 0.00 00:00:00
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Last Trade Time Trade Type Trade Size Trade Price Currency
- O 0 0.025 GBX

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Posted at 10/11/2022 10:04 by sweet karolina2
Short answer is no.

PPG has nothing of any value to offer. It has no listing, no cash and a totally discredited BoD, who if the stories are true, tried to enrich themselves at the expense of other shareholders and the target (Ben's Creek), which is why the Nomad resigned.

You can follow what happens here:



I expect that the accounts due by 31 Jan will not arrive and some time after that strike off action will commence. You can see how things are likely to go by looking at a similar company:



There is a good chance you will be able to crystallise your loss at 0p in tax year 23/24 and offset against CGT or carry it forward for use in future years.
Posted at 09/8/2022 09:01 by sweet karolina2
Peter,

There is a thread. I am not sure if it is any good or not but it did cover PPG:



I can't be bothered to trawl through it all to find the PPG bits to see if he called it right or not, but that would be a good test of whether he knows what he is talking about.
Posted at 31/7/2022 09:48 by petersinthemarket
>SK2
Many thanks for your contributions on traps like cash shells. Much appreciated. I am one of those caught out by PPG. A bit late in the day I took (your?) advice to save what I could. FWIW I did that and got some cash out but it was an expensive lesson and I'm still stuck with a load of nil value shares in my trading account.

The point is that I have been investing and trading off/on for at least twenty years and I thought I was a sensible investor until I got caught by this, which showed for sure that my experience in this particular field was grossly insufficient.

I have duly noted your many contributions on the subject on this and other threads. You have pointed out the traps to anyone prepared to listen, but unfortunately the necessary gen has to be found by accident on many individual share threads. We ideally need to be able to find the names of the companies and the names of the serial perpetrators in one place.

I wondered whether you or someone with suitable experience would be prepared to run a dedicated thread, perhaps called shells, to pull everything together in one place so that everyone would have a trusted point of reference to go to which could warn them of similar potential traps.
Posted at 31/7/2022 06:11 by sweet karolina2
I use PPG as one of 4 examples to show why buying into AIM Rule 15 shells does not make sense:



Enjoy, at least you are not alone.
Posted at 18/5/2022 07:38 by smcl
Bens Creek - pity ppg couldnt get that deal over the line!
Posted at 05/11/2021 07:53 by sweet karolina2
What killed the deal and the company is whatever it was that caused the Nomad to resign. It is clear now Ben's Creek has its own listing that there was never any problem with that end and the problem was all inside PPG. The Nomad would have earned a decent fee had the Ben's Creek deal gone through and, as it now is, it is probably owed money that it will now never see, so the resignation was not over some trivial matter or disagreement - there was something seriously wrong in PPG. Whilst we can speculate what it might have been, the city's code of omerta will mean we never find out for sure. The wise investor could see the writing on the wall a long way before this and got out whilst mug punters were buying.

It is also clear that Ben's Creek, as I said when this was first announced, had no real need of PPG as there were plenty of other ways it could get listed. Ben's Creek always held all the cards in any negotiation and would not have paid more than about £200k for the cashless shell that was PPG had the Nomad not resigned - Ben's Creek seem to have had a lucky escape from what always looked like a foolish tie up with this uber dog.

In the meantime how are the plans for PPG to relist on the (sub)Standard List going I wonder - 20 Sep "The Company will provide a further update in the near future." PPG should have produced fully audited full year results last week - AIM and the (sub)Standard List suspend companies that don't produce results on time, so failing to meet a really basic requirement of the market you are trying to join is not exactly a great way to begin the new listing process. Most of the work to produce the accounts would have already been well advanced as it would have been needed for the DD for the Ben's Creek deal.

However we all know that the talk of a new listing was just more of the BS the directors have been pushing out for years to keep mugpunters happy.
Posted at 20/9/2021 14:02 by bmcb5
Brad44 - 25 Jan 2018 - 19:46:19 - 4989 of 7289
c,mon, hand up, whose farted? somebody has done sometihng to stink the share price

this company has soo much going for it, i thought last year was going to be our year. I holding on as i can see a fabulous growth story, but its hard to have cash stagnant when tehre are so many opportunities around.

just my thoughts on a wet misarable thursday night and a declining share price
Posted at 24/8/2021 18:47 by sweet karolina2
The only outside chance PPG had was to find a new Nomad within a month - there are a few out there who don't really care about the rules or their reputation and as I said before, RTOs make a decent whack of fees. However PPG are not even talking to alternative Nomads, but are considering an alternative listing. PPG won't get one on a market that would enable Ben's Creek to raise money so what is the point. From a Ben's Creek perspective the advantage of an RTO over doing its own IPO are pretty marginal anyway. If Ben's Creek are even remotely interested in PPG now, it is a clear sign that there is a major problem with Ben's Creek and maybe it was not PPG that caused Allenby to walk. Either way it is game over for PPG mugpunters, the only question is how long will PPG spin out the agony before they put them out of their misery.
Posted at 12/8/2021 23:52 by sweet karolina2
So 2 months on and still nothing - no surprise to me and more proof if anyone needed it that it was complete mug punters buying before suspension. Nige is a clueless prat but we already knew that.

sweet karolina2 12 Jun '21 - 19:55 - 7264 of 7273 Edit
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Prediction 1 Relisting, if it happens at all (odds are 50/50 given DD is still to be done - note DD is 2 way ie PPG advisers on BC and BC on PPG and the odds don't change until there is an announcement that DD is complete) won't be until November at the earliest. Nige say in the next few weeks not months. First update on 12 Aug when we will know if nige was right or wrong.

Prediction 2 The RTO price ie what PPG shares are valued at when exchanged for BC shares and the price at which the fund raise is done and therefore the price at which the convertible debt will convert will be no greater than 0.005p yes 5 thousandths of a penny. Nige says 0.045-0.78 - anyone who know anything knows nige is wrong already because what he is effectively saying is the PPG shell is worth more than BC.

Prediction 3 there will be a consolidation of at least 500:1. nige did not say anything as he probably does not know what this even means.

Prediction 4 current shareholders will own no more than 5% of the new company. Ie total number of new company shares post everything > 105 Bn shares pre-consolidation. nige did not say anything because he has no idea how RTOs work

Prediction 5 1 year from relisting the share price will still be below 0.02p adjusting for the consolidation. Ie If you had put all the money spent on buying PPG shares over the last year/month/days into a bank deposit account you could still buy far more shares in the new company a year after relisting than you currently have. You would know exactly what you were buying then and you would have avoided all the risks of losing everything you currently have. nige says "i am confident we are on a very big ride up in the next few years.its not all about the cash its about investing in and seeing that investment grow into a substantial amount we/you/me/them have contributed to over the last year/month/days" If any of you want to admit what your average price paid over those years/months/days is, when we know the prices above, because they will be the opening price when trading recommences (if it ever does), I will work out how many times it would need to bag from there for you to break even. It will probably be double digits.

Let's see who is on the button and who is a mugpunter on drugs. nige says "hang tight" I say you have no other option now.

smcl says it's all just opinions, which anything which looks to the future is. However some opinions, ie those from people with years of experience who justify their opinions with sound analysis, are worth listening to before it is too late to do anything (which it is now). Whilst those of mugpunters who clearly don't have a clue about how all this works in the real world, rather than their fantasy world, are worthless.
Posted at 12/6/2021 18:55 by sweet karolina2
Prediction 1 Relisting, if it happens at all (odds are 50/50 given DD is still to be done - note DD is 2 way ie PPG advisers on BC and BC on PPG and the odds don't change until there is an announcement that DD is complete) won't be until November at the earliest. Nige say in the next few weeks not months. First update on 12 Aug when we will know if nige was right or wrong.

Prediction 2 The RTO price ie what PPG shares are valued at when exchanged for BC shares and the price at which the fund raise is done and therefore the price at which the convertible debt will convert will be no greater than 0.005p yes 5 thousandths of a penny. Nige says 0.045-0.78 - anyone who know anything knows nige is wrong already because what he is effectively saying is the PPG shell is worth more than BC.

Prediction 3 there will be a consolidation of at least 500:1. nige did not say anything as he probably does not know what this even means.

Prediction 4 current shareholders will own no more than 5% of the new company. Ie total number of new company shares post everything > 105 Bn shares pre-consolidation. nige did not say anything because he has no idea how RTOs work

Prediction 5 1 year from relisting the share price will still be below 0.02p adjusting for the consolidation. Ie If you had put all the money spent on buying PPG shares over the last year/month/days into a bank deposit account you could still buy far more shares in the new company a year after relisting than you currently have. You would know exactly what you were buying then and you would have avoided all the risks of losing everything you currently have. nige says "i am confident we are on a very big ride up in the next few years.its not all about the cash its about investing in and seeing that investment grow into a substantial amount we/you/me/them have contributed to over the last year/month/days" If any of you want to admit what your average price paid over those years/months/days is, when we know the prices above, because they will be the opening price when trading recommences (if it ever does), I will work out how many times it would need to bag from there for you to break even. It will probably be double digits.

Let's see who is on the button and who is a mugpunter on drugs. nige says "hang tight" I say you have no other option now.

smcl says it's all just opinions, which anything which looks to the future is. However some opinions, ie those from people with years of experience who justify their opinions with sound analysis, are worth listening to before it is too late to do anything (which it is now). Whilst those of mugpunters who clearly don't have a clue about how all this works in the real world, rather than their fantasy world, are worthless.
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