Plutus Powergen Share Discussion Threads

[r ball] 30/12/2017 07:32

Wide spread and small market makes stops of limited use on a penny share.If you want some tips then try Wizz or Victrex. Share price is high but it's high for a reason.....

[pbanus] 30/12/2017 03:50

#ppg #plutuspowergen wishes all investors, followers and supporters of the company and friends a very happy and prosperous new year. Form is temporary, class is permanent!! Here's to a great 2018

[luckyphilip] 29/12/2017 23:35

Good reply. I'm sticking with ppg though .

[davr0s] 29/12/2017 22:45

I don't put orders in for stops as a rule so they are not there to be hunted - but I know my stop points for all my holdings and I've conditioned myself to sell without question once breached. There's a lot of analysis and evidence that shows stock picks are no better than 50% right on average no matter what anyone tells you. So that means your winning positions have to be bigger than your losers - ideally 2-3x bigger. It's the big losers you have to avoid as they kill PF performance. You can make good safe returns consistently if you follow this and cut out all the noise and it protects you when the next bear arrives. Depending on how quickly you can rotate from one position to the next determines how quickly you can grow your account - the real masters at this consistently make 50%+ returns/ year. Some much bigger and they manage the downside. I'm not in that league yet but it's the goal

[phantomf4m] 29/12/2017 21:48

Going back to Aug 31 there was a gap in daily chart between 2.08 and 2.13. This has now been filled. Its not always the case but invariably these gaps tend to get filled - eventually. And the price tends to rise once it has. Time will tell as early as next week.

[luckyphilip] 29/12/2017 20:35

fair enough Davros!!. But I personally think it is dangerous to put stop losses on small cap AIM stocks as you get hunted down by MMs. If half your buys get stopped out you are giving yourself a big mountain to climb to be profitable. With a stock like PPG which can lose 20% on very small volume the likelihood is you will be stopped out at some stage. When really bad news comes there is nothing you can do anyway as stops are ignored!! Been in PPG most of this year but avoided commenting. However, in spite of last two weeks, I think we are on the verge of a real breakout (upwards).

[marvin9] 29/12/2017 20:20

Remember this post in 12 months:

You will regret it but thanks for honesty ! This was traders dumping end of year. Happy new year one and all . Maybesum - happy new year to you too . Remember you were allowed back on this thread to give balanced honest opinions. If you admire Marvin you should be on the other thread. Not going to ask bishop to ban you but for goodness sake read all the fantastic info posted on this board and react rationally and fairly

What a nob; basically confirmation that ramp only is allowed.

Similar pump and dump trades will go through next year, same as they did last year by SavvyBishop and crew

[davr0s] 29/12/2017 20:10

I wont regret selling even if it goes back up as it keeps me out of those that go onto becoming big losers - and no one ever knows for which that will happen. I expect half my investments to get stopped out

[luckyphilip] 29/12/2017 19:16

You will regret it but thanks for honesty ! This was traders dumping end of year. Happy new year one and all . Maybesum - happy new year to you too . Remember you were allowed back on this thread to give balanced honest opinions. If you admire Marvin you should be on the other thread. Not going to ask bishop to ban you but for goodness sake read all the fantastic info posted on this board and react rationally and fairly

[davr0s] 29/12/2017 18:33

I sold out earlier today. Broken support and I never let a small losing position become a big losing position

[montynj] 29/12/2017 18:20

To be honest I don't really care as I explained earlier ive seen all this before...I'm just bored and lying on my sofa. Lol. Rampers and derampers is all part of a market but there are no real rampers here stating lies..all I'm seeing are derampers stating lies.

[montynj] 29/12/2017 18:17

How can telling a lie like saying there is possibility of 20% dilution be giving a balanced view point ? Laughable

[maybesum] 29/12/2017 17:56

I just have a more balanced viewpoint than your good self sorry if that upsets you in some way...too bad..... as for me influencing the market.. .. laughable...

[montynj] 29/12/2017 17:43

What is tedious is people like you who just tell complete total lies to scare the market and what I mean by lies is you'd saying to everybody that the company are going to do 20% dilution which is complete rubbish. Read savvy's explanation...all we do is tell the truth...if that is ramping then what can I say

[maybesum] 29/12/2017 16:33

Well let's see what happens next week montynj. I think it will be more of the same ...steady selling..... The trouble is Mr market sees profitability as being some way off. Who knows but pointless ramping by you and the other trolls is just so tedious. A refreshing change to have Marvin back rattling your cages and getting you screaming again. Hahaha

[montynj] 29/12/2017 15:12

It does all add up. But not everyone will understand and this is what makes a market. Everyone will have different agendas - some will switch elsewhere in the meantime into momentum stocks. Some will do end of quarterly selling. Others will listen to Marvin9 or yourself and be panicked out. I've been in stockbroking for 25 years talking to fund managers and I've seen all these kind of rampers and derampers. It's the norm...ultimately they don't alter the trajectory if company fundamentals on tracks...I remember once ASOS dropping from £1 to 50p due derampers and it ultimately went to £70. Always think long term. I'm a buyer into this weakness

[luckyphilip] 29/12/2017 15:00

Exactly. So who is wrong ? Mr market is fickle but can also be very thick and slow to cotton on. Nothing we can do now but wait for January and mr market to start learning facts about plutus instead of wilfully misunderstanding the company and its business

[maybesum] 29/12/2017 14:36

Like Bishop I expected 3p at the very least by this point with 4 sites up and running another about ready and the gas site move. It just doesn't add up.

[luckyphilip] 29/12/2017 14:29

Mr market is very fickle as we all know. Happy new year to all (except Marvin in his tent under Waterloo bridge)

[maybesum] 29/12/2017 14:07

And yet Mr. Market remains unimpressed despite the move into gas sites

[meganxmas] 29/12/2017 13:38

1savvy ... Correct. PPG will have 60per cent interest in the new sites. They will be financed :20pc powerco equity60pc asset finance from lender ring fenced against that project and 20pc either 3rd party equity or mezzanine ie an additional layer of debt at higher interest ratesPPG don't have to put any money in but could if wanted take another 20pc if decided to take up the non power company equity/mezzanine portion.No brainer if all comes together.

[1savvyinvestor] 29/12/2017 13:21

there won't be 20% dilution. When each site is created each one will have its own financial mix, 20% big six, 60 % equity Plutus (funded by loan) and 20% equity from another source. This should not be confused with diluting Plutus Powergen itself. I understand why people may find this hard to grasp and the model is a little complicated. However it will transform Plutus Powergen's bottom line as with over 50% equity in each SPV they can put income into the accounts of PPG, something they are unable to do with the Rockpool spvs where they only have 45%. PPG will still benefit from the Rockpool sites but probably not until 2019. As often stated I expect cash value to Plutus of Rockpool sites to be around £30 million

[montynj] 29/12/2017 13:15

Maybe some it is people like you who mislead the market and scare them into selling shares who said there was going to be 20% dilution the 20% equity mezzanine financing is probably going to be along the lines of special purpose vehicles if you understand what they mean

[maybesum] 29/12/2017 12:51

The 20% equity dilution coming could be a drag on the share price