Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Plutus Pwrgen LSE:PPG London Ordinary Share GB00B1GDWB47 ORD 0.1
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 2.25p 2.20p 2.30p 2.25p 2.25p 2.25p 236,174 07:30:19
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Electricity 1.4 -0.2 -0.0 - 16.01

Plutus Pwrgen Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
18/9/2017
18:54
Savvy It is the commitment to STOR which will be the biggest limiter preventing collection of market revenues. Reduction in triad benefit will have very little impact on that dynamic. When they commit to STOR, they agree to be available to turn on during certain periods, thus they cannot sell their output during those periods - whatever the price goes to. For this, they will receive an availability payment, which gives them guaranteed revenue (but no longer as lucrative as it used to be). If called to generate they will receive a utilisation payment, but again less lucrative than market prices. If chasing triads, they choose to generate if demand looks very high. They will sell their output for these periods at the market price, so chasing triad would not prevent them capturing high market prices HTH
codydotcom
18/9/2017
08:24
Savvy, how do you know that Plymouth made around £1m ? Is it in any Attune Energy reports ?
rhug1966
15/9/2017
08:55
This statement has not been appreciated by investors in my opinion ; " The underlying drivers of overall supply and demand for power have not changed, however, and we believe that the markets for STOR and FFR, for example, will firm over the coming years. The power supply mix to the National Grid will also mean that there will be many opportunities to trade electrons in future, due to the peaks and troughs in the market. Over winter 2016/17, Attune Energy Ltd (our site in Plymouth) could have earned c.GBP1.5-GBP1.8m by taking advantage of market prices when these spiked. Because of commitments to FFR, Triad and STOR, we have not always been able to take advantage of such fluctuations, but expect to be in a better position to do so with gas powered sites. Attune Energy operated very successfully during last winter with an above budget operating profit."So in fact what is being said here is that Triad in some ways held attune back. This is very interesting. My understanding is that attune earned around £1 million last winter. Of course Triad was a large part of that but there are clearly other ways of creating revenue that were missed because of the commitment to triad .
1savvyinvestor
15/9/2017
08:33
Rhug, like Savvy have to work, but well answered by him/her. That is why they have put in the table of how much revenue from different numbers of sites active. 2 6 GBP10,511,445 full year 2, 6 sites active, £10mil. Obviously this is revenue not profit!
gspanner
14/9/2017
16:24
Also worth remembering that Alkane energy was bought out by Balfour Beatty for £61 million. They had exactly 160mw of connected power at that point. We are already nearly at 120mw and are valued at £15 million....just saying
1savvyinvestor
14/9/2017
15:00
Thanks for the clarification, Savvy
rhug1966
14/9/2017
14:47
Rhug . I haven't got time for a long reply right now but you haven't understood the structure of Plutus. Each of the Rockpool funded sites are separate companies - spvs (special purpose vehicles). As such their income is by law not allowed to appear on the bottom line of Plutus' accounts. Plymouth earned about £1 million last winter and it is expected that each site will earn roughly that this winter, so £6 million. Each site pays Plutus a management fee of £150,000 which equates to £1.35 million for the year. This is what appears in the accounts. This was always known so nobody should be surprised by the figures. This is how you should view the Rockpool sites - from the RNS ; came online in November 2016. By the end of 2017 we will have 120MW of operational capacity, and the remaining three sites already have secured planning permission. Rockpool has indicated that they will realise their investment in the nine flexgen sites when the EIS qualification period expires. This will give us the opportunity to make an offer for the shares we do not own or sell our shares in each site alongside Rockpool
1savvyinvestor
14/9/2017
11:17
Am I missing something as I can't see whether Plymouth actually generated revenue apart from it's management fee?
rhug1966
14/9/2017
09:29
good luck with that!! If you put a stop loss there the market makers would certainly hunt you down...but a buy order. Hope not!!
1savvyinvestor
14/9/2017
09:04
Put a cheeky order for 500k at 1.95, lets see.
gspanner
14/9/2017
09:02
OK - In that case I will take an extra bottle of water and make it a year.
folderboy
14/9/2017
08:40
Lol! I will be very surprised if we are not comfortably higher at the end of your walk. I reckon once the six new sites are up and running and the £50 m deal is agreed we should go well over 3p never to return
1savvyinvestor
14/9/2017
08:36
Certainly not short term - been here what seems like a very long time. Guess a little too nervous and time to go out for a long walk - say 6 months!!
folderboy
14/9/2017
08:35
usual 10% drop on £25k of stock sold... though may be bigger trades posted later.
gspanner
14/9/2017
08:34
Folderboy. If you are short term the market has made a call . If you have any belief in what plutus are doing you will know this is a classic tree shake with traders with concentration of a gnat reacting to a total lack of understanding!
1savvyinvestor
14/9/2017
08:30
Market made no call? Maybe. Hope you are right and that I am worrying unduly having added rather a lot.
folderboy
14/9/2017
08:29
Will have to have a proper look later, as I have a busy day. On first viewing, it doesn't fill me with joy. Will try to put any concerns into words later. Have a good day all
codydotcom
14/9/2017
08:27
Formatting a bit out, but love the table!
gspanner
14/9/2017
08:26
Full Year No of Sites EBITDA ---------- ------------ --------------- 1 3 GBP3,576,689 2 6 GBP10,511,445 3 9 GBP18,034,178 4 10 GBP24,567.293
gspanner
14/9/2017
08:25
The market has made no call on this . Just a few myopic short term traders
1savvyinvestor
14/9/2017
08:21
All very positive - but it looks as if the market has an alternative reading. Added on the first fall (too early it seems).
folderboy
14/9/2017
08:20
Anyone selling on this rns is clearly exceptionally short term . 6 sites up and running this year. 9 next plus very likely 8 gas sites by 2019. Good investment requires looking forward beyond your nose!
1savvyinvestor
14/9/2017
08:17
So there is a loss of £200k before financial chicanery, half that of the year before. Will disappear as the new sites open.
gspanner
14/9/2017
08:11
You got there before me isa... Exactly.
gspanner
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