Plus500 Share Discussion Threads

[andrewclarke99] 29/12/2018 06:01

Nice work Barry

[poolefox] 28/12/2018 23:13

James Hsnbury article was based on the FX experience in Japan

[poolefox] 28/12/2018 23:00

Thanks Barry well done on getting in so early.James Hanbury wrote a comparison of similar legislation to the ESMA regs and that FX companies suffered a fall and then soared.

[barryharmer] 28/12/2018 21:03

Somebody buying Plus500 exactly a year ago at closing price would have made a 56% gain on their investment, as well as receiving 21% of their original investment as dividends, if they claimed back the 10% withholding tax.

Plus500 28/12/17 closed 889
Plus500 28/12/17 closed 1392

Year gain = 889/1392 = 1.56 = 56% Gain

Dividends paid = 137.86 +81.29+63.5 = 240.2525 US cents – deduct 15% and convert to £UK gives you approx. 189 UK pence

189/889 = 21% dividend.

The unfortunate few who bought near the peak of £20+ are feeling a bit sorry for themselves, but with another bumper dividend predicted to be announced Feb 12th, and a strong hint that the business is running with strong growth and not affected as much as its competitors by the new ESMA regulations introduced in August, we should see the share price zoom back up into the £20+ range, if not hit and eventually exceed the £28 predicted by Liberum Capital (the house broker). Soon the shorters should realise that the founders are selling because they have more exciting new companies to help to market that will give them more satisfaction, kudos and huge gains, that would dwarf the gains that would be possible with Plus500, even if Plus500 hit £50 per share. They have been selling regularly since the IPO, and even the last sale at £13.90 produced a huge profit for the founder (who no longer is a director) and was happy to sell out at £4 per share back in March 2015. Since those days the senior management has been strengthened by the inclusion of directors with a strong regulatory background, and the company has been very careful to comply with best practice for the industry. Some of the new rules introduced by ESMA such as negative balance protection and the ban on binary options did not affect Plus500 as they were already compliant from the start of the business. The other concern with Plus500 voiced by some commentators (in league with the shorters?) is the sustainability of the growth of the business. They have a warning “80.6% of retail investor accounts lose money when trading CFDs with this provider.” and IG has this warning “79% of retail investor accounts lose money when trading spread bets and CFDs with this provider.” – Plus has 1.6% more retail investors losing money with them than IG. I could not find a figure for the percentage of retail customers who lose money on Bet365 website, but an educated guess is that it is getting close to 100%, but nobody expects the company to contract in the near future as gambling is a growth pastime, and the losers either find more money, or new gamblers take their place. The reason that the gamblers are attracted to Plus500 is the mixture of innovative internet marketing and the “user friendly” proprietary user interface that is available across most mobile platforms and available in 32 languages. I also predict an extra-ordinary increase in customers and volume of trades via the Australian subsidiary when the year end results are published… this is because you can choose which subsidiary site to use, and if you don’t like the restrictions that ESMA has introduced, just open an Australian account and continue as normal. If you compare all the metrics of Plus500 with its major competitors IG and CMC, you will see a huge difference in the figures. Plus500 is far more efficient business, producing greater profits with lower costs. It also is very investor friendly with its dividend pay-outs, guaranteed 60% of profits after tax, and then most years a special dividend to push the pay-out last year to very close to 100% of profits. This year Plus500 moved from AIM to a full listing, entering the FTSE 250, if it was not a reputable company, complying with all the required regulations, it would not have been accepted. In my opinion there is no reason why the company’s growth, profitability and dividend pay-outs should not continue into the future. Myself, my family and friends have had significant holdings in Plus500, I started building mine in October 2013 @ 181 pence, and have no regrets. May the share price soon reflect the true value soon.

[elcapital2018] 28/12/2018 19:49

1308 actually as you well know

[davebdavid] 28/12/2018 19:24

Elc your 12.30 short is not looking so good. When will you be right on this one?

[rackerrs1] 28/12/2018 14:54

mrjellyfish
12 Oct '18 - 09:25 - 108544 of 108571 0 2 0
Elcapital 2018.I told you to die when you were sb888,now I'm telling you now you vile scum !

[s_a_b] 28/12/2018 12:53

Unusual to see a prediction on this board with a specific price AND time frame ;)

[old fool2] 28/12/2018 11:44

L2 is looking very strong. It looks like it wants to go over £14 today

[rackerrs1] 28/12/2018 10:25

you promised us it would be lower by close of play - and it was higher.

you told us you are always right

i guess not eh pig filth hahaha

[andrewclarke99] 28/12/2018 10:21

I did not see any more news indicating the founders had reduced their holding any further. Did I miss it? Or are you referring the the one founder reducing slightly at beginning of December?

[elcapital2018] 28/12/2018 10:18

it gell a lot after initial rise yesterday as the owners keep dumping

[poolefox] 27/12/2018 18:15

Thanks Ultimate great post

[poolefox] 27/12/2018 16:29

I hope they do fall back so I can buy more

[fenners66] 27/12/2018 16:18

"This will finish down on the day"

Let me get the childish comment in for him....... he didn't say which day.....

[ultimate1] 27/12/2018 15:19

So another owner sale that caused the company to drop 200pts has proven to be totally ill informed. These same owners have been sellers since it was 300. It is totally irrelevant if or when they sell but every time the market goes crazy. On the subject of the shorts I know people in the hedge fund industry who have personally met them as have plus owners. The feedback every time is how they have a total lack of under standing of the business and their arguments are cliched and laughable. Any validity to their points re Esma and crypto surely have to be thrown out of the window after this quarters results? Even the shorts would have to accept that if Esma was ever going to kill plus it was in the immediate aftermath of its implementation. More and more professionals are signing up by the day and they know have over 20,000. They have crushed all guidance and outperformed their rivals yet again this quarter. Something they have consistently done for the last few years. They are trading off a forward p e of SIX!!! With FIFTEEN % dividend yield and are still growing. They have high expectations for licences in Japan and America. I confidently predict the shorts will get their asses handed to them. Which their total lack of knowledge in the company deserves 😀😀😀