Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Phoenix Group Holdings Plc LSE:PHNX London Ordinary Share GB00BGXQNP29 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -9.90p -1.42% 686.40p 1,600,466 16:35:29
Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price
685.50p 685.80p 696.20p 685.00p 696.00p
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Life Insurance 2,549.00 259.00 66.80 10.3 4,950.3

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Phoenix Daily Update: Phoenix Group Holdings Plc is listed in the Life Insurance sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker PHNX. The last closing price for Phoenix was 696.30p.
Phoenix Group Holdings Plc has a 4 week average price of 653p and a 12 week average price of 651.40p.
The 1 year high share price is 798p while the 1 year low share price is currently 537.50p.
There are currently 721,199,214 shares in issue and the average daily traded volume is 1,032,250 shares. The market capitalisation of Phoenix Group Holdings Plc is £4,950,311,404.90.
jonwig: In May 2014 the share price was 430p after back-adjustment for the rights issues. That's 9.6% pa growth. You'd also have collected around 250p in dividends. In retrospect, an OK investment, I reckon!
lauders: Perhaps anytime now is good given that we are near the oversold area of the RSI? Https:// Failing that keep an eye on the share price and wait for a time when the RSI actually falls into the oversold area and then buy? Of course you could just wait for any market crash and then the last point will happen anyway and then you can buy.
riverman77: Thanks, it's more expensive than AV certainly, but you'd expect that as there are longer standing issues which is keeping the share price low.
stun12: EPS is on page 478 of about 3000 (!). EPS basic is 66.8p, diluted is 66.7p for a P/E of about 10.8x based on a 720p share price. Not sure how that compares with the others you mentioned, but it certainly doesn't sound expensive.
pj fozzie: Well based on share price movements today - it's looking pretty good for FTSE100 membership. Awaiting market close, PJ
jonwig: jimbox - PHNX isn't an ordinary company: it doesn't make stuff or sell stuff. First, it's a big black box throwing off cash but whose size is declining. It can throw off this cash for 25-30 years before it fizzles out. Second, the box gets filled up by acquisitions and in-force policies which both increase the size of the box and lengthen the payout time. To achieve this, the company raises more cash via share issues, debt. If you concentrate on eps and profits (ie. ordinary accounting principles) I think you'll miss the point of this. The problems, though, are that the assets which sit in the box are a bit fragile: eurozone bonds, equities, ... and that's why the share price has been weak. All the above - just my opinion: open to reasoned argument.
jonwig: I mentioned Barclays just recently. This is the bit I meant (post #1688, 06/04/16): While we believe the dividend is sustainable for the next 20 years, we have to discount the dividends at c.4% to get to the current share price. In our view, the market has already priced in a dividend increase on the back of a potential deal. (Remember they were the bearish one - probably still are.) What they said ought to be at least as true now, after the SL acquisition and despite the increased share capital. On these assumptions, if we take the current 47p dividend and discoount it over 18 years we get a npv of 620p*. This assumes no residual value. [Amended after next post, #3081.] How do higher bond yields figure? First, advantage: when existing bonds mature, they can be reinvested at a higher rate, reducing the strain of paying guaranteed and other annuities. Second, neutral: inflation and interest rate hedges in place. Third, disadvantage: higher interest rates increase the chance of debt default by either corporate or sovereign isusers. Whilst I'm relaxed about the share price, I'm pretty inactive at present. *That doesn't seem to fit Barclays' numbers, but I've checked my calcs.
garycook: Pierre O'Reilly.The last PHNX RI was issued on 28/09/2016,at 508p and until payment day PHNX only dropped to a intraday low of 699.90p on the 02/11/2016.On the Nil paid Rights day on 25/10/2016.The PHNX share price ranged from 730p to 780p,and finished at 755p.PHNX share price has only dropped below £7 once since until now on 12/12/2016 at 697.50p The Offical Nil Rights price on 22/06 is 691p.Mr O'Reilly if PHNX drops to 518p,then you need to buy as many as you can afford,because PHNX at 518p will not be at that price very long if at all.IMHO around the £7 area is as low as the PHNX share price will go Sir !!!
jonwig: Just to add to #2703: the PHNX RNS on 23 Feb was made when the share price was around 750p, so the calculation would have been (assuming 1:2) as follows: Existing shs ... 393.26m @ 750p RI shs ......... 196.63m @ 483p Total .......... 589.89m @ 661p SLA award ...... 147.38m @ 661p = £974m, which looks about right. But, now that the PHNX share price has risen to around 795p, SLA are indeed getting their shares on the cheap! If the PHNX share price had fallen in the interval, the opposite would have been the case. They could rectify the situation by accepting that they need to raise less that £950m or by reducing the cash consideration - I doubt either will happen!
stun12: That would be quite the lump to add. Personally, I'd like to see it happen, though no doubt some volatility in PHNX share price would ensue. Is this why we've had a few days of mild down when the wider market has been ticking up?
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