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[fangorn2] 31/8/2018 09:41

stonedyou30 Aug '18 - 22:50 - 10434 of 10434 (Filtered)

Whatever nonce boy

Still filtered.

[fangorn2] 29/8/2018 16:14

topazfrenzy29 Aug '18 - 14:33 - 10425 of 10426
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Have bought back in since the land thefts are off the table.

When gold turns, and it will, this should rocket.

Yep just seen the news.Superb

"South Africa has withdrawn its white farmland redistribution bill – six days after Donald Trump warned he was closely studying the situation - seems Trumps tweet 6 days ago has put the cat amongst the pigeons.

Going to give it a week or so to see how things settle first before buying back in.

As I said, am a big fan of PAF, it was the politics that really concerned me.

Something many would respect if they'd lived in Sarf Africa.

[topazfrenzy] 29/8/2018 14:33

Have bought back in since the land thefts are off the table.

When gold turns, and it will, this should rocket.

GLA

[fangorn2] 29/8/2018 10:36

‘Lucky’ is a farm attacker. He explains to me why the black gangs rape the farmers wife and children in front of him. #plaasmoorde

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Johan Oosthuizen
‏ @LuckyLuke0051
18h18 hours ago
Replying to @KTHopkins

I live in SA and this is the view of my front garden from my bed. Notice the E-fence, burglar bars and the shotgun.

This is how I try to keep the monsters out and my wife safe. pic.twitter.com/HVmOIQsoyP

[fangorn2] 29/8/2018 10:34

"A message to the international community from a boer in #SouthAfrica the reality of our situation. Please RT."
#FarmMurders #SouthAfrica

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#BoerTestimony.

We have to get the truth out there about #FarmMurders and expropriation of land in #SouthAfrica. I pray that these messages will reach the international community and president @realDoanldTramp

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[justiceforthemany] 28/8/2018 18:11

Britain backing SA including land reform plans - Theresa May in SA, meets Ramaphosa.

[justiceforthemany] 24/8/2018 13:43

Trump wading into SA's land reform proprosals. Attacks on white farmers have been going on for over 20 years but the death rate is said to be at a 20 year low, contrary to reports.

Following US President Donald Trump’s tweet about South Africa’s land reform policy, President Cyril Ramaphosa has moved to assure the world that the land programme is crucial for inclusive growth.

Ramaphosa has written an editorial in the Financial Times clarifying the policy and explaining why it’s important for South Africa.

Ramaphosa says the land reform programme won't undermine future investment in the economy or damage agricultural production and food security or even erode property rights.

The president mentions that South Africa has learnt from the experiences of other countries, and will not make the same mistakes that others have made.

He closes his column by saying land reform is a moral, social and economic imperative.

This is no land grab', writes Cyril Ramaphosa
In this article, published in London's Financial Times, President Cyril Ramaphosa explains how land expropriation without compensation will work
hxxps://www.businesslive.co.za/bd/opinion/2018-08-24-exclusive-this-is-no-land-grab-writes-cyril-ramaphosa/

[fangorn2] 23/8/2018 16:28

@Stonefold

This article is mainly about farm killings- and there have been plenty. Often of both the white farmer owners, their families, and also the black workers as well fyi.

"No. The constitution has not yet been changed and since 1994 the ANC has been following a willing-buyer willing-seller module to redistribute land."

Not yet but the state offering 10 cents in $$ for the land, with the threat of appropriation, is hardly anything to write home about - Seizures will soon occur.

Don't expect the BBC to report on it though!

[stonefold] 23/8/2018 16:06

23-08-2018

"....Have any farms been seized?

No. The constitution has not yet been changed and since 1994 the ANC has been following a willing-buyer willing-seller module to redistribute land.

Around 10% of land in white ownership has been transferred to black owners in this way.

Mr Ramaphosa told parliament on Wednesday that South Africa needed to speed up the pace of land reform to correct a historical injustice.

However, the South Africa president said it would be done in an ordered manner and there would be no land grabbing.


"As South Africans we must move away from this fear psychosis that has been going around, particularly those that have been spreading lies and rumours. Organisations like AfriForum going overseas and saying that the ANC is out for a land grab."



23-08-2018
Reality check

[justiceforthemany] 22/8/2018 22:06

Good points chipper and mikky. I don't trust Mantashe but he did attend the first gold pour at Elikhulu last week despite PAF not being a big company - certainly nothing compared to the likes of Glencore or Anglo-American. One would hope he will be supportive to management. With elections next Spring the ANC appear to be making some bolder statements (especially on land reform) to hold off and appease some of the ultra left wing EFF party - who only won 6% of the vote in 2014.

[mikkydhu] 22/8/2018 17:38

Farming versus mining:

I wonder if it's cultural/psychological? Farming the land is what Africans have done for centuries in Africa. To see "others" farming the land gets to them in a way that mining, not historically an African activity, does not.

[chipperfrd] 22/8/2018 17:17

If Zimbabwe is used as a (worst case) guide then businesses that have met the S.A. BEE criteria may well avoid further hassle.

I have held CMCL (Blanket Gold mine in Zimbabwe) for a number of years and they have relatively prospered in spite of all the property confiscations that impacted farmers in that crisis-ridden country.

Clearly there are no guarantees regarding the current political situation in S.A. but I have a degree of confidence that miners such as PAF will continue their business without obstruction. Only time will tell.
Chip

[risa5] 22/8/2018 16:11

Fangorm you have made a good description of yourself in the above post.
After you claimed "It's a great company", I thought you had some reason to back up what you claimed.

I'm also disappointed about your poor judgement.