Oxus Gold Share Discussion Threads

[festario] 03/10/2015 20:59

Ignore ACT or filter him, he is a well known destructive troll who revels in that behaviour.You cant ban him, but you can filter and ignore.

[a.fewbob] 03/10/2015 20:54

Fine, I'll take those odds! 1/3 of 1.2 billion sounds bloody good and then we have a fine chance of getting even more!

[papillon] 03/10/2015 20:33

Arlington Chetwynd Talbot
3 Oct'15 - 18:54 - 24520 of 24526 1 0


This one has issues, GS won't put charts & volumes in. I don't like that, so simply sell it strong and move along.

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????????????????. I'm baffled by your posts ACT. Are you for real? Are you all the ticket? Surely if you want charts showing volumes you can easily do them yourself and then post them on this thread if you so wished. It's very easy to do. Either that or post on another thread with that information contained in the header. I'm sure you can find such a thread from amongst the scores of OXS threads on advfn or if not create your own thread.

[giant steps] 03/10/2015 20:32

O/T

Arlington, perhaps you should create your own OXS thread
with a header that meets your requirements - advice intended.

[karateboy] 03/10/2015 20:13

It is a total misrepresentation to say award is always 30% of the max claim. That is totally in correct . Average claims so far has been about 33% of the top claim. So some got more and some got less. There is no reason what so ever to believe Oxs would not get the full amount. Even if Oxs gets the average value, that is about $400m.

[giant steps] 03/10/2015 19:31

Loverat, re #24500 - the point that i made when we first discovered the Tim Hart
information in his CV is that it gave some pointers of his submissions before
and later (after the hearing). Given he is all about numbers for the defence,
perhaps the panel asked him to plug the Oxus "Inputs" into his model. In any
event it rather suggests there was no smoking gun to blow the case out the
water, else why make another valuation submission post hearing ?

[jungmana] 03/10/2015 19:29

If we win, the uzbeks will pay. They will either pay the easy way or the hard way.

[goodbloke1] 03/10/2015 19:14

Could the Uzbeks refuse paying damages if found guilty or could assets be sequestration abroad to pay?

[arlington chetwynd talbot] 03/10/2015 18:54

This one has issues, GS won't put charts & volumes in. I don't like that, so simply sell it strong and move along.

[wooster4] 03/10/2015 18:46

Loverat - my thoughts entirely re stiggy - a revolting individual!!

[nick2412] 03/10/2015 17:45

Loverat, of course this board is all about opinions and hunches. A bit of guesswork is fine and fun. I have no doubt rossannan has read a lot of cases as many of us have and his posts would benefit from either saying he is having a fun guess or, alternatively, citing specific cases to back up his point that it will not be beyond a certain level. Oddly enough I think he might be right ... but that's just a hunch :-)

[loverat] 03/10/2015 17:41

I thought Stig was one of the germs. Although I guess it is O.K to some as long as he says what you want to hear.

No useful discussion, no honesty no debate and no intellect - just pure 24 hr ramping and deramping. No use here whatsover.

If that's what you think BB discussion is about then perhaps you could try one of his threads?

[brewsters_millions] 03/10/2015 17:36

What a load of tosh this weekend.Bring back the regulars: GS, Stig, Edgein and Orgasmicbeef.This is a win hands down....a little too late to be reminded of what we can afford to lose..blaa blaa blaa.Filter has been effective in wiping out the germs

[loverat] 03/10/2015 17:33

'So on that basis rossanan's posts where he suggests the value will not be above a certain level are, with respect, beyond his level of expertise. Likewise, I certainly wouldn't feel qualified to say a value would be above or below a certain amount within the parameters of the OXS claim'

Nick2412

I actually disagree with part of what you have said. Although I have taken issue with Rossannan on his opinion, I think he has a right to express one - even though he might not be a qualified lawyer or arbitrator. Let's face it, this is a bulletin board - not Law Society Gazette or Arbitrators Age. Most posters are not professional investors or financial advisors but all have a stab at joining in the discussion and debating to learn more.

Besides, he is basing his opinion on actual cases which he has read and if he has bothered to do that I think he is qualified to speak. From reading cases anyone half intelligent can detect whether awards are a certain percentage of the claim and see other interesting and relevant patterns worthy of posting.

I think we should get away from saying that people cannot comment on areas where they may not be experts at. Lots of armchair generals out there who could do a better job than the real thing imo.

[nick2412] 03/10/2015 17:13

Yes, agreed, Rossannan has struck a reasoned and consistent tone and I respect his posts. That said, I don't think any poster on here is qualified to assess or opine with any authority on the likely valuation.

So on that basis rossanan's posts where he suggests the value will not be above a certain level are, with respect, beyond his level of expertise. Likewise, I certainly wouldn't feel qualified to say a value would be above or below a certain amount within the parameters of the OXS claim. It's far too simplistic to say the average award is about 40% of the claim or something similar. It really will be a complex process and that's why it has taken so long - at least the complexity of assessing quantum is why I hope it has taken so long!

Much more interesting, assuming the decision goes the way of oxus, is to try and assess the likely means and date of expropriation that the arbitrators will use to value the claim. The Yukos award gives some pointers including a slight preference expressed to value the claim on a 'similar' company basis. I'd be more interested in posts pointing out the values of potentially similar companies to OXS around the perceived times of expropriation.

[razoblade] 03/10/2015 17:06

rossannan

As its coming close to the end game, Its pointless saying things like

"Only invest what you can afford to lose" Im also guilty of this at the start of the year.
"Its a gamble"
"Its 50/50"

This all is irrelevant at this time. Had you said this 1-3 years ago investors and gamblers would have taken on board your advice or shrugged. At this stage its very close to a decision and people have made up their mind on what the risks are and what they can affords to lose. Its nice to know you still care but if it goes pear shape im sure no one will come to you for compensation on their loss.

[papillon] 03/10/2015 16:57

dave444/rossannan. Whatever anyone posts on here, whether bullish or bearish, positive or negative, will have absolutely no bearing on the arbitration verdict and award. One thing we can all agree on and that is that the arbitration panel will not be influenced in their decision one iota by what anyone posts on this bb. That's guaranteed. So why get so upset by what rossannan posts, dave444?

[pug151] 03/10/2015 16:20

My position similar to yours fest and i agree Ross posts are high value.

[festario] 03/10/2015 15:34

Rosannan, to be fair, you have been entirely consistent in your position throughout.I share your scepticism of a 'bonanza', life is not like that... but I expect what Mr Shead refers to as compensation for 'long suffering shareholders'I have accumulated an £86k stake here, slowly over 5 years, and I have written the whole lot off! For the sake of my sanity.There are other things I could have used £86k for in the last 5 years, so I consider myself long suffering.