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OKD Oakdene

9.125
0.00 (0.00%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Oakdene LSE:OKD London Ordinary Share GB0030739790 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 9.125 - 0.00 00:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
0 0 N/A 0

Oakdene Homes Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
25/7/2007
09:19
yup and sold badly on the way down...

number of concerns... no actual cash generation so all profits are merely 'booked' profits..

interest rates rising means that this simply won't go up.... and will have negative sentiment attached to it... (also this company has loads of debt)

was particularly annoyed at the placing.. they got the shares tipped before this and then did it basically as they have no cash coming in...

Think management and particularly Turnip and low quality...

fundamentally housebuilding is a good place to be but have a look at the Barratt's share price... down about 25% since peak in Jan this year and still falling...

Slapper

slapdash
25/7/2007
09:15
The SP's certainly looking weak - not so sure that applies to the business itself.

Are you out completely now Slap?

spaceparallax
25/7/2007
09:10
down she goes.... a beautiful thing to see...

Turnip's empire looks mighty weak

slapper

slapdash
19/7/2007
13:04
Price boom for London's luxury homes
Evening Standard
19 July 2007, 9:25am

The value of luxury homes in London has continued to soar despite rising interest rates which have sent a chill through the rest of the housing market.
The Building Societies Association said mortgage approvals in Britain tumbled 22% last month to £4.7bn following five interest rate increases in less than a year.

But upmarket estate agent Savills said 62% of London homes priced at more than £4m in the first half of the year were sold to overseas buyers.

Prices in areas such as Mayfair, Belgravia, Kensington and Chelsea have risen 29% in the past 12 months.

'While interest rates fears and affordability pressures are starting to bite the mainstream housing market, the prime housing market is still being driven by a different set of factors,' said Harriet Black, associate director of residential research at Savills.

Quick - get into NTA ( Northacre) before the results in August.

redtelephone
19/7/2007
13:04
Price boom for London's luxury homes
Evening Standard
19 July 2007, 9:25am

Quick - get into NTA ( Northacre) before the results in August.

redtelephone
18/7/2007
12:12
red - sounds better than the hope and hold method..

looked at NTA but market cap a bit small for me..

will be interesting to see how Oakdene fair if/when rates hit 6% and possibly above 6%...

some borrowers will probably be in trouble...

Slapper

slapdash
16/7/2007
20:52
Slap

....the method I tend to use is .....luck,sentiment,charts running out of steam & banking once I 've made 35% profit.

I bought NTA (Northacre) a few days ago to hold on until August to make a quick buck.- properties in central London going up much ,much faster due to severe shotage of luxury properties and massive demand from the rich.

redtelephone
16/7/2007
13:25
Nice little bounce, driven presumably by the 250K buy @171p - someone seems confident.
spaceparallax
15/7/2007
05:20
There's a wave of negativity going through the property stocks - look at (say) BVS, PSN and even further afield HSTN. Residential and commercial sides both badly hit by sentiment.

The markets seem to gave got this one right for now, they are an effective DEWS antenna at times.

Not for me to play at catching falling knives though certainly very interesting to watch for a few months as the drama unfolds.

polzeath
13/7/2007
15:08
problem is I got out a bit too late... retlephone what method do you use.. I was thinking of cutting every time something goes through the 200 day moving average..... Slapper
slapdash
13/7/2007
09:30
Polzeath,

You'll get a reputation talking like that!

spaceparallax
12/7/2007
18:15
This ain't a bottom and I know my bottoms :-)
polzeath
12/7/2007
17:51
moi aussi slap.I did the same thing & got out at 213p & 210p.But like you I could be in again in the future.
redtelephone
12/7/2007
14:33
tad weak.... not being smug... but glad I got out... if it turns and has momentum and positive trading etc could buy in again... but cut losses and ride winners... way to make money

Slapper

slapdash
11/7/2007
12:06
I think you're both right for now, although given the PM's statement on housing, especially brownfield development, it's hard to see the share price staying low for long.
spaceparallax
11/7/2007
11:27
Purely sentiment - but smaller housebuilding shares involve a lot! - it seems as if the attempt to find a level is stalling.
edmondj
11/7/2007
11:03
i see it below 170p...
slapdash
10/7/2007
08:41
Interesting to see where this dip goes
spaceparallax
30/6/2007
13:24
Polzeath,post 824 interesting reading.Thanks.regards lex;o)
lex1000
30/6/2007
12:24
Don't be tempted to jump into the property sector. We think that the factors that have driven the sector down so far this year have some way to run. In any case, experience shows that the property sector rarely, if ever, stops at 'fair value', either on the way up or on the way down.
Expect higher 'beta' stocks to continue to perform worst. In the more testing conditions that we anticipate in the quoted property sector, we expect that it will be stocks with greater operational or financial gearing that will continue to suffer more than those that are less geared.
Time to consider reversing preference for central London offices. It appears to us that central London office plays are 'priced for perfection' and that the consensus has forgotten about downside risks to tenant demand – history shows that investment banks can switch rapidly from hiring to firing when there is a downturn in capital markets.
Germany remains our preferred market in 'core' Europe...We favour the German property market within 'core' Europe because its economic and property cycles are least advanced amongst the major economies. However, our key concern here is that much of the upside is already discounted in property share prices.
And Russia remains our favourite play in 'emerging Europe'. We think that yield convergence is largely played out in central Europe but that there is still some way to go in Russia. However, development plays on this volatile emerging market are the ultimate 'beta' plays within the property sector and so we anticipate a two-way pull on share prices.

Morgan Stanley

polzeath
30/6/2007
12:20
Property stocks were under pressure as fears mounted that another interest rate rise could be on the cards and as dealers fretted about the continued fall-out of the US sub-prime mortgage market. In a note titled "Don't catch a falling knife", Morgan Stanley told investors not to be tempted to jump into the sector. It said: "We think that the factors that have driven the sector down so far this year have some way to run." On a more positive note, it added: "Combined with the current abundance of capital within real estate private equity groups, we think there is a greater than 50pc chance that there will be a bid for a UK major before the end of this year."

The broker argued that takeover activity would boost shares, but only temporarily. HSBC was also bearish on the sector, cutting its target price on Hammerson from £15 to £13.95 and downgrading Segro from neutral to underweight with a reduced target price of 840p, down from 625p. Segro fell 12½ to 625p, Liberty International shed 28p to £11.45 and Hammerson slipped 26p to £14.34.

polzeath
29/6/2007
16:32
Just reading back some of this thread.

A House Builder never sells on a PER of 16 at this stage in the cycle.
With another interest rate rise likely next week, the current valuation looks more than fair IMO. Talk about a PER of 16 is naive at best - and that is being very kind.

joshalexander
28/6/2007
14:22
This can't possibly be a DCB can it?
ffedup
28/6/2007
06:11
Not unreasonable; this is the nature of the game in smaller house builders, one has to try to use the volatility to one's advantage, no point protesting at it.
edmondj
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