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Northern Bear LSE:NTBR London Ordinary Share GB00B19FLM15 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 72.50p 70.00p 75.00p 72.50p 72.50p 72.50p 3,994 08:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Support Services 53.6 2.6 10.8 6.7 13.42

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
17/7/2018
19:00
I would like to give you a little insight into the history of Ntbr.Also my reasons for investing heavily in them.They floated on the stock market in December 2006 at a price of 60p. They soon made several acquisitions and where considered to be a good company who where going a long way. By the end of 2007 the share price was about 170, a three fold gain.Less than a year later the world recession started and Ntbr did not have time to prove itself. The share price dropped 9p in late 2012.All through the recession they made a profit (a small one but never the less a profit) With all this information and the share price at 9p, I considered the merits of the company!A...This is a Yorkshire company....hard working nitty gritty down and down to earth .Family ties and responsibilities.(family comes first).B...It is managed by a hard working local team with many years of local experience....graham Jenkins 40 years..Kieth soulsby 40 years..Stephen Roberts 20 years...John gilstin 30 years...Alan chapman 40years.. And I and can go on and on.C.... A low pe of 6.7......low peg of 0.1...5 out of the last six years of positive growth...acquisitions selected By a team with 100s of years of experience. Can you not buy into this company???
leona306a
17/7/2018
17:37
LOL, if you list on the stock market, there are certain levels of conduct which you should be meeting. At least NTBR do not appear to be acting inappropriately in any way but they are certainly underperforming in terms of communication, with NO broker forecasts, oddly timed AGMs and minimal updates on trading.
shanklin
17/7/2018
16:27
In other words we do not waste money on matters that do not concern us. FULL STOP
leona306a
17/7/2018
13:58
I think we were all worried about an impact from Carillion and the earlier bad weather. Only just reading prelims now but this is a reasonable explanation of the silence on the former ' I would like to assure our shareholders that, if the Group's results are likely to be materially affected by any such events, we will make an appropriate announcement immediately as is required by the AIM Rules for Companies. Our policy continues to be to avoid issuing unnecessary market updates, or creating an expectation of providing ongoing commentary, on wider market events when the Board does not expect the Group's performance to be materially affected. '
srichardson8
16/7/2018
21:30
Great to see some comment and debate on the company folowig on from the results... Good to know i'm not the only one who owns shares and has profited from higher profits, higher share price and increasing dividends. I wish my other holdings were doing as well. Davidosh - you're clearly more expert than me on comms ... Are there other AIM companies who you'd call out as meeting your standards for comms and openness? I'm also unclear on what can and can't be disclosed? Shanklin - agreed - I've not seen a forecast ... what do you see as the main risks to the group that could cause a change in profit? Cash seems to be in a good place with repeated (almost sycophantic) shout outs to YB ... They've made an acquisition of a profit generating company and disposed of one that wasn't contributing - and called out they're still on the look out We can judge the weather risk for ourselves ... I'm not quite sure how Carillion fits into their customer/supplier chain ... or if it does at all - but i presume we're over that Taylor20 / Shankin - I agree with you - paragraph is statement if fact ... end of .... reminding us that the management obviously know their obligations and responsibilities ... Looking forward to more comments / debate ... and the dividend going into my Stocks and Shares ISA too :-) I won't be able to make the 9am at Newcastle - but please feel free to pass on my support for the group if anyone is going
ed_derby
16/7/2018
17:22
Well i guess the good news for bods who do make the trip and decide to stay by the seaside (that will be on-one then) is that they will have the Newly re-opened Spanish City Dome available to visit on Whitley Bay Seafront if you fancy some Champers / Waffles or a bit of Fish and Chips - bringing back the glory days of the early 1900's yay. Premier Inn just round the corner too. 25 Year refurbishment project is probably par for the course in this country. Just a shame that i don't think NTBR were involved in the Dome work although they are doing some posh flats just along the road on the seafront.
rmillaree
16/7/2018
14:42
This is me....I attend between 30 and 50 Agms every year but cannot get to all the companies I hold especially if in Summer months as I have a very big family. If a meeting is set for 9am and 300 miles away then that is not ideal and necessitates leaving family overnight. I could reasonably make it to Newcastle for an 11.30 start which is exactly the start time last year ! So what has changed ?
davidosh
16/7/2018
13:37
Keen to hear any details if anyone able to attend the agm as not able to myself.
its the oxman
16/7/2018
13:18
davidosh so you are not interested in attending AGMs anyway. tiswas I tend to get direct answers from the chairmen of companies where I am on the share register. However I don't send sill communications e.g. 'How's it going mate?'
this_is_me
16/7/2018
13:16
Quite happy here, a few profit takers today of course but overall the chart looks intact , rating is low and outlook positive, scope exists for another earnings enhancing acquisition, and there's a sizeable dividend to take shortly. Hopefully management will continue to carefully grow the business and 100p is not that far away.
its the oxman
16/7/2018
13:15
Simso "It was a legitimate concern at the time, and I felt they were initially insensitive to our concerns." If they said the following should that not have put your mind at rest ? - I.e the lack of an update meant that it was business as usual? until such time as they said otherwise. What else where you expecting them to say? "We are aware of our communication obligations, and the correct way to breif the market is via RNS, not answer individual queries" It really does seem to me to be too much to ask the directors to comment on specifics if they have confirmed that they are aware of your questions/issues and will release an RNS if appropriate covering anything that is material enough that needs to be commented on. A comment to say there is nothing to comment on (I.e no bad debt problem) does not seem a worthy comment to me generally speaking - even though although i understand the rationale for releasing something post Carillion as a bit of a quiet reassuring Horlicks type of event.
rmillaree
16/7/2018
13:00
Here is my usual charted reflection of the results in a historical context. Http://www.david-wilmshurst.co.uk/ntbr/ntbr_data.htm Historic p/e of 6.45 at 80p on adjusted diluted eps Historic dividend yield of 5.0% (including 'special dividends') - no increase. Dividend covered 3.1 times. Net debt, including loans, is £1.1m as opposed to the £0.8 net bank debt quoted. Solid results on paper at least. It will be interesting to see how this pans out in light of concerns expressed by Davidosh and others.
wilmdav
16/7/2018
12:50
The FD always responds courteously to my emails although you do get the impression it is often drafted by the NOMAD!
tiswas
16/7/2018
12:10
Good spot David ..out of interest do they respond to telephone calls or emails at all?
rhomboid
16/7/2018
12:05
Last year the Agm was at a much more sensible time.....So why the change to 9.00am ??? It is intended that the Annual General Meeting will take place at the Company's registered office, A1 Grainger, Prestwick Park, Prestwick, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE20 9SJ, at 11:30am on 24 August 2017. Did anyone here attend ? What was said that turned them against shareholders and encouraging them to come this year ?
davidosh
16/7/2018
10:57
I think that slightly "chastising" statement of "If something is wrong we will tell you" has its roots in the Carillion affair, where I know several of us (myself included) did seek clarification on whether we had an exposure. Inititially the company's response to individual queries was opaque, and I remember the long conversation on here trying to interpret what they had said to our individual questions. They initially said something along the lines of "We are aware of our communication obligations, and the correct way to breif the market is via RNS, not answer individual queries" Eventually they issued an RNS which covered it and put our minds at rest, after quite an effort on our part to get then to clarify. It was a legitimate concern at the time, and I felt they were initially insensitive to our concerns.
simso
16/7/2018
10:46
First step would be to get a proper broker, no research and not one institution on the shareholders list.
exbroker
16/7/2018
10:31
Ref: the statement around updates and contacting the company. Agree more regular updates and some coverage would be a step in the right direction. It basically means we move forward on a basis of "no news is good news" in relation to any worries, with assurance that we would have heard otherwise if there was anything to be concerned about. Not great, but at least we know where things stand.
texas_caddy
16/7/2018
10:08
Thanks Walbrook. One small point. Should I interpret your use of "cylindrical" to mean what others might call "cyclical"?
mctmct
16/7/2018
09:54
Exbroker Nobody is suggesting one should trust broker forecasts. That would be ridiculous!!!! They do however provide a stake in the ground against which companies can decide whether or not they need to update the market as to whether they are doing significantly better or worse than said forecast(s). The absence of a forecast is the biggest negative issue for me re NTBR.
shanklin
16/7/2018
09:44
Please dont tell me you trust brokers forecasts!!
exbroker
16/7/2018
09:43
AGM....I am not suggesting Newcastle is the wrong place merely the early start time ! It is a fact that 9am is ridiculously early and 99% of companies go for late morning meetings or even afternoon meetings so that shareholders can travel to the event. Why force them to stay overnight ? I attend at least 30 Agms a year. With NTBR this is the only meeting for shareholders....NO results meetings, NO presentations, NO broker research, NO engagement and NO phone contact so..... If you want to meet them get a hotel room.....I am nearly 300 miles away btw and would still attend but it is in August which is also likely to rule out many investors due to childrens holidays
davidosh
16/7/2018
09:42
taylor20 I also did not find the paragraph tetchy. However, in the absence of a broker forecast, such reassurance is of far less value... ...as we have no idea whatsoever of the threshold that needs to be met for an update to be issued. For example, had the EPS forecast been 13p and there was no update... ...and we trust management to keep us updated of variances from this... ...we know EPS is going to be 11.7p or better (10% less than 13p). In the absence of a broker forecast, we really have no idea whatsoever what is going on albeit management do not see it as a disaster area. HTH. Cheers, Martin
shanklin
16/7/2018
09:36
FWIW, I did not find the paragraph tetchy / irritable, chastening, etc. I also did not take from it that shareholders should not contact them. To me it came across as trying to reassure shareholders that if there had been anything to report, they would have done so. Just my opinion. They have in the past published trading statements if there has been an impact (positive or negative) to expectations, there is no evidence that they have failed to issue a statement when they should have done. So I don't have any complaints on that front. Certainly not a company well loved by the city, so perhaps not surprising the AGM is not in London (9am is taking the p though). Slightly frustrated by the market reaction to the results.
taylor20
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