Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
New Star Investment Trust LSE:NSI London Ordinary Share GB0002631041 ORD 1P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +0.00p +0.00% 105.00p 100.00p 110.00p 105.00p 105.00p 105.00p 0 06:33:35
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Equity Investment Instruments 1.7 0.8 1.1 92.1 74.57

New Star Investment Trust Share Discussion Threads

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18/9/2017
20:04
At least the lacklustre performance has picked up a tad. Last 2 years has been acceptable.
topvest
18/9/2017
08:03
@jhan66 - that's a little more honest of them at least. Will be interesting to see what happens when Duffield "departs" - ie where his shareholding goes.
spectoacc
18/9/2017
07:37
Morning Specto, This part is a new addition... Over the last few years the Company’s share price has been at a significant discount to the Company’s net asset value. The Directors review regularly the level of discount, however given the investor base of the Company, the Board is very restricted in its ability to control the discount to net asset value. Am I correct in interpreting that the Board are frustrated by a majority shareholder? Xd 14th Nov. Is increased but still only 0.5% of true nav.
jhan66
18/9/2017
07:16
I've got it - they're copy/pasting this each time to save costs in having to write it out again: "Your Company's shares continued to trade at a significant albeit narrowing discount to their NAV during the year under review. Your directors have discussed various options with a view to reducing this discount but no satisfactory solution has yet been found. This position is, however, kept under continual review by the board. "
spectoacc
10/8/2017
12:32
Hopefully the former rather than the latter, but time will tell. OCN is a good company whatever happens. Could demerge its investment arm at some point which would help eliminate the double discount.
topvest
10/8/2017
08:30
Probably more chance of an exit on New Star which will crystallise value. I prefer Hansa as its an excellent deep value play with moderate income, if you like Ocean Wilson. Better chance of long term growth on Hansa. New Star is a bit of an index tracker (at best), but will generate a 50% upside as and when an exit occurs at some point in the next decade.
topvest
10/8/2017
07:27
An old mutt sleeping by the fire, but I hold it over Hansa.
spectoacc
09/8/2017
17:56
Hold both. Hansa Trust is good. This is a dog. Only my view.
topvest
09/8/2017
16:29
seems the market hates this and Hansa but surely value must out in the end?
mw8156
08/3/2017
21:09
The documents should all be on the Companies House web-site I suspect.
topvest
07/3/2017
22:36
Many thanks Topvest and erstwhile 2; I may attempt to claim some money from the liquidators for my few shares held on a platform....
mw8156
07/3/2017
20:46
On TOPS Estates and its investment trust, the liquidator sued the estate of the former CEO who had sadly passed away. The settlement was paid out last year. Not a full refund of the tax loss, but quite a chunky settlement nonetheless.
topvest
07/3/2017
09:35
The close company rules are less onerous for a quoted company. From the Corporation Tax Act: 446 Particular types of quoted company (1)A company is not to be treated as a close company at a particular time if— (a)shares in the company carrying at least 35% of the voting power in the company have been allotted unconditionally to, or acquired unconditionally by, and are at that time beneficially held by, the public, and (b)any such shares have within the preceding 12 months been the subject of dealings on a recognised stock exchange, and the shares have within those 12 months been listed on such an exchange. (2)But subsection (1) does not apply to a company at any time when the total percentage of the voting power in the company possessed by all of the company's principal members exceeds 85%. (3)For the purposes of this section, a person is a principal member of a company if the person possesses a percentage of the voting power in the company of more than 5% (but see subsection (4)). (4)If there are more than 5 persons within subsection (3), a person is a principal member of the company only if— (a)the person is one of the 5 persons who possess the greatest percentages, or (b)in a case where there are no such 5 persons because two or more persons possess equal percentages of the voting power in the company, the person is one of the 6 or more persons (including those two or more who possess equal percentages) who possess the greatest percentages. (5)In determining for the purposes of this section the voting power which a person possesses, there is to be attributed to the person any voting power which would be attributed to the person if section 451(3) to (6) applied for the purposes of this section. (6)In this section “shares”— (a)include stock, but (b)do not include shares entitled to a fixed rate of dividend, whether with or without a further right to participate in profits.
qwazi
07/3/2017
06:44
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/01484606/filing-history/MzE0MzY4MTI1MGFkaXF6a2N4/document?format=pdf&download=0 I think that is the link to the final TOPS realisations.....if you do it wrong, you lose 30% of your assets in corporation tax and liquidators and legal fees. I don't think there was the ability to reclaim the tax but someone may correct me.
erstwhile2
06/3/2017
22:20
I never got any money back from the TOPS fiasco! how does one claim it?
mw8156
06/3/2017
21:23
Top 5 own 75.62% as per the 2016 Annual Report. I can't quite remember the precise rules, but it reminds me about Trust of Property Shares which lost its investment trust status just ahead of liquidation. Took 10 years to get our money back on the tax forfeited. No doubt they monitor the rules very closely here.
topvest
06/3/2017
16:57
Which would more reasonably explain the lack of buyback, since it would reduce the shares in issue.
spectoacc
06/3/2017
16:52
don't quote me but as long as 25% are held with holders with a non disclosable stake it remains a IT. it must be up against this limit.
edwardt
06/3/2017
09:35
It may be run as a family trust, but the directors declare it to be an Investment Trust (IT) - and get capital gains tax exception. For a definition of an IT, see: https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/company-taxation-manual/ctm47200 1. An Investment Trust must not be a close company (CTM60060). 2. A close company is one where: More than half the assets of which would be distributed to five or fewer participators, or to participators who are directors, in the event of the winding up of the company - see CTM60320. The board better wake up, before HMRC come calling! Plus Ernst & Young as auditors? (I may cross post this on the citrus site to see if anyone there knows how NSI can keep claiming to be an IT)
rooky4
05/3/2017
19:55
It is a family trust. It won't be sold down. The fees are immaterial at each level to Duffield. It makes sense for him to perpetuate the discount as the only exit is one that is on Duffield's terms, and the bigger the discount, the better the economics for him or his successor family when a resolution is determined or required. It's pretty simple. If you like the assets a bit, and are prepared to wait 15-30 years, you will likely realise the discount. The discount narrowing may pay for the fees you've borne in the interim. Otherwise don't buy it.
erstwhile2
05/3/2017
17:42
He has no incentive to reduce the discount. AUM would be reduced and therefore the fat fees they cream off at NSI level and the IT holds alot of money in a range of brompton funds. The only way is for the discount to be managed is when Duffield sells down his stake to a minority holding.
mozy123
05/3/2017
15:52
The words they use are essentially true ("no satisfactory solution") if they are advised by Duffield that he will not vote for any type of program which aims at reducing the discout. Why would he?
erstwhile2
03/3/2017
15:59
Totally! An hilarious cut'n'paste from one report to the next. Is hardly rocket science to initiate a buyback, which would be highly accretive to NAV & of benefit to all. Still - NSI is what it is. It's the pretence I find so irritating.
spectoacc
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