Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Ms International Plc LSE:MSI London Ordinary Share GB0005957005 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  +5.00p +2.92% 176.00p 170.00p 182.00p 176.00p 171.00p 171.00p 0 13:08:35
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Industrial Engineering 77.7 4.8 23.1 7.6 30

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15/11/2011
10:25
IMO the interims and finals may well surprise the market on the upside. The director share buying certainly indicates confidence, and previous such buying has been very profitable for the directors to date! Global-MSI and Forgings should both continue to thrive. As for MSI-Defence, it seems that there's a growing global market for MSI's gun systems on patrol boats/frigates, particularly in Asia and to protect the East African coastline. The US contract may skew things a little, but I'm happy that demand for MSI-Defence will steadily grow.
rivaldo
14/11/2011
22:01
The business with Shell is most likely filtering through now, just like you say Rivaldo. I can imagine MSI's buyout of Portman's 50% stake in Global MSI last year may also be bringing new opportunities. Like you, I think the interim results will look very nice. The question for me is the future. MSI have had a real boom year with the US Navy contracts. Can they follow it with more business, or will revenue plateau?
mr. t
14/11/2011
09:25
Fantastic post Mr.T, brilliant research. I hadn't realised there was an option for the US Navy to increase the value of the contract? I posted a while ago about Shell's purchase of a large package of additional petrol stations, and I have no doubt that Global-MSI, as the market leader, will have picked up a load more work as a result, which is probably coming through now. Interims in the next couple of weeks should be excellent imo.
rivaldo
13/11/2011
15:01
Some news that may be of interest: 1. Global MSI is recruiting. It looks like there are a number of positions, and they say they are all new. A sign of growth? http://global-msi.com/http:/global-msi.com/recruitment 2. MSI's order to the US Navy seems to be progressing well. The US Navy recently delivered the 6th of 12 (or 15 - I think there's an option to increase) Swiftships to Iraq yesterday, fitted with the MSI International Seahawk DS30M gun: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/Swiftships-Shipbuilders-Gets-181M-for-Iraqi-Navy-Patrol-Boats-05812/ (see the green writing a third of the way down for the last update on 3rd Nov) and http://www.swiftships.com/pressrelease.php There's some more background on the original order: http://content.yudu.com/A1st9m/WTJulAug11/resources/36.htm There's also two other off-shore supply vessels that have just been launched for Iraq, Riverhawk OSVs, which has MSI kit on. See the last section of: http://content.yudu.com/A1st9m/WTJulAug11/resources/38.htm and: http://rhfsf.com/2011/11/riverhawk-fast-sea-frames-llc-launches-offshore-support-vessel-for-iraqi-navy/
mr. t
08/11/2011
11:33
Moving up prior to the interims - last year's were on 25th November, so not long to wait.
rivaldo
29/10/2011
04:53
Patricia, I first heard about them when the naked trader bought them back in June. http://www.nakedtrader.co.uk/ I researched them and liked what l saw but did not buy then as the price raced ahead over £3. When l saw the price fall back in August l started accumulating and now have them in my isa. As rivaldo has pointed out, the director buying and confident comments about the performance of all the group's divisions are giving out the right signals to me. They do seem undervalued but l think the large spread and illiquidity make them a share to buy and hold rather than trade. Could become a takeover target too with the relatively small market cap and strong financial position.
mikepompeyfan
28/10/2011
23:37
Hi mikepompeyfan, I have noticed you have bought quite a few MSI shares. Can you tell me how you heard about this share, as their are no brokers covering them.
patricia59
28/10/2011
08:51
With almost 31p EPS last year one would hope to see say 35p EPS this year, and with the US contract coming to fruition perhaps as much as 40p EPS if the other divisions continue to prosper. The dividend is worth noting too - up to 6.5p last year from 4.5p the previous year! Maybe 7p-8p this year? So MSI could be on a current year P/E of 7.9 and perhaps only 6.9. A 50% rerating from here to a P/E of 10 to 12 would hardly be out of place.
rivaldo
28/10/2011
05:56
Thanks Patricia. I did wonder if the weaponry part of the business meant that they have to keep a bit quiet about it. I guess they're ok saying 'we're selling loads of arms for fork lifts though' ;-)
mikepompeyfan
28/10/2011
03:08
mikepompeyfan, The reason their is no brokers covering this stock is that figures are completely top secret, and they don't want brokers interfering in their affairs. They would love to put a buy on this stock, but can't because of the secrecy of the weaponry; they can only class it as good value. This extract is from the Investers Chronical:- Unfortunately, MS's internal targets are kept secret and, with 44 percent of the company owned by management, analysts don't follow the stock. Still - and after successfully weathering the recession - the group is clearly a leader in the field. Yet the shares, rated on just nine times earnings,are hardly pricey.
patricia59
27/10/2011
19:37
'This is a stock for those content to read the RNS's and wait' - well that's the reason l'm here and those 'smoke signals' you mention ! I think/hope the interims may surprise on the upside.
mikepompeyfan
27/10/2011
15:30
Sounds good CR. No idea what it means though :o))
rivaldo
27/10/2011
11:59
Pennant breaking out here CR
cockneyrebel
27/10/2011
09:26
New product news from MSI-Defence - I like the sound of the "retrofit" capability, but more interestingly the expansion of the market to coastguard and police boats: http://home.janes.com/events/exhibitions/dsei2011/sections/daily/day1/msidefence-introduces-new.shtml As I've said before, with the Somalia/East Africa/pirate angle this type of protection could be a big seller.
rivaldo
27/10/2011
07:55
Mike, it's a deliberate policy by the MSI Board of Directors. I get the feeling, having spoken to them in the past, that they're (and this is highly stereotypical!) straightforward Northern English types who simply like to get on with the job and believe (probably rightly) that financial PR etc is all gubbins if you don't produce the right results. What are the smoke signals here? - director share buying - bullish outlook - cheap fundamentals - all 3 divisions now trading well, so no laggards This is a stock for those content to read the RNS's and wait. Assuming MSI deliver again in next month's interims the share price will likely jump another 30p-50p or so almost instantaneously.
rivaldo
27/10/2011
07:29
Why is this stock so under the radar ? I cannot find any brokers forecasts or consensus for msi although l can for most far smaller cap stocks. It seems to be completely ignored which l suppose some might say is a good thing. Hopefully the interims will provide some impetus.
mikepompeyfan
15/10/2011
05:49
Last year interims were 25th Nov.
mikepompeyfan
15/10/2011
00:26
Rivaldo. I thought Interim results were out in December!Could do with another order of the enigma from the US Navy, as I believe this is possibly the gun that cost 2mil. as the Seahawk 1 and 2 are smaller guns.
patricia59
14/10/2011
12:48
The share price continues to rise ahead of the interims next month. Given the bullish trading statement - for all 3 divisions - and the director buying I'm reasonably optimistic :o))
rivaldo
10/10/2011
12:25
Another 1,000 bought, another 5p rise !
mikepompeyfan
10/10/2011
10:29
Cheers for the IC buy tip Patrica59. I suspect the fast worsening Somalia/Kenya/East Africa pirate situation will be helping MSI in the coming months and years as regards patrol boat and frigate munitions....
rivaldo
07/10/2011
18:27
They definitely don't want you to buy these. I had to lower my order to 1,000 to get any this afternoon and while l was lowering it they pushed the price up on no volume.
mikepompeyfan
07/10/2011
17:28
Rivaldo Investors Chronicle 17/06/11 MS International's shares lost two-thirds of their value during the recession, but management at the Doncaster based engineer kept faith in the group's diverse range of businesses. It makes naval equipment, fork arms for fork lift trucks and canopies to cover petrol station forecourts - and that faith in the business is now paying off after MS grew profits strongly last year. Most of that progress reflects performance at the core defence division, which generates 60 per cent of revenues, driven by demand for the stabilised small-calibre guns made at the company's factory in Norwich. Navies around the world, including the US Navy, love its 30mm weapons - worth up to £2m each - which are ideal for small patrol boats on the look out for drug smugglers and illegal immigrants. Improvement at the fork arms business towards the end of the financial year has encouraged hopes of a turnaround there. the value of orders now stands at twice that seen a year ago and the forecourts division is also winning new supply contracts.
patricia59
07/10/2011
13:50
Pennant breakout free stock charts from www.advfn.com
cockneyrebel
07/10/2011
10:08
Moving up on every buy yeaterday and today. Remember there's been recent director buying at 247.5p and 242.5p. Curious, I don't have additional info to Patricia59's, but I'd say a $29m contract is a pretty big deal for a £47m m/cap company with £41m turnover last year!
rivaldo
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