Ms Share Discussion Threads

[onlyonestorm] 22/11/2006 13:46

Kneath - Hi copied this for you you may find your trade here, but there have been trades today in MSI as you can see below.

Regards

Stormy

MS INTERNATIONAL PLC PLUS-traded (Listed)

At 10:53:14 191.50 +3.00 1.59 %

Symbol Bid Ask Volume Open High Low Close
MSI 189.00 194.00 0 0.00 0.00 188.50




Date Time Price Volume Type Consider ( £ )
21/11/2006 11:43:39 191.00 514 O 981.74
21/11/2006 11:22:23 191.00 542 O 1,035.22
21/11/2006 10:53:02 191.00 1,000 O 1,910.00
21/11/2006 08:03:14 186.15 1,500 O 2,792.25
20/11/2006 08:13:48 191.23 521 O 996.30

[kneath] 22/11/2006 10:36

Thanks guys - rivaldo, you anticipated my next question. Ta!

[rivaldo] 22/11/2006 10:26

Kneath, don't know what you mean - there just haven't been any trades in MSI reported yet today if that's what you mean, though as the price is up 2p we're likely to see some trades reported later, either here or on PLUS (the old OFEX).

David77, MSI isn't particularly liquid at the best of times! But there must be hundreds of small caps where it's difficult to get (or sell) £12k of stock at once, and (for example) on the 15th November there were two sales of 10k shares each. You could just take it as a signal that at present there aren't many sellers around pre-results.

[david77] 22/11/2006 10:05

As I wrote at #928, I tried to buy £12,000 of MSI but it wasn't dealt after a couple of hours. I reckoned that if it was difficult to buy, it is likely to be equally difficult to sell in due course.

I have a few, I'll stick with those.

[kneath] 22/11/2006 09:38

Does any one trade these - or is my ADVFN not registering for this company?

[david77] 21/11/2006 12:04

I tried to buy £12,000 of these yesterday with a limit of 192p. I left the order all morning but then gave up and bought Toledo Mining instead - they have an AGM tomorrow so hoping for good news there.

[onlyonestorm] 21/11/2006 11:59

Topped up, just to show off "deal showing on 'PLUS MARKETS'"

Stormy

[onlyonestorm] 21/11/2006 11:26

Results can't be much longer now!

Stormy

[cockneyrebel] 19/11/2006 15:14

might be the reason for the recent rise imo.

CR

[doubleorquits] 19/11/2006 11:49

Here it is:

VT to sign ships deal for £400m

VT, the shipbuilder, is about to sign a £400 million deal to sell three patrol vessels to the Oman navy.

The order is expected to be finalised by Christmas and will create 200 jobs at VT's Portsmouth yard.

It will give a major boost to VT, which also has extensive support services operations, as it negotiates with BAE Systems on a sale or merger of its shipbuilding assets with the defence giant.

VT is close to concluding talks about the sale of small warships worth £150 million to another foreign navy.

The shipbuilding business is only six per cent of the company's total business. Analysts have valued it at about £150 million. But the order book is bulging for the next ten years.

VT chief executive Paul Lester is also confident the Ministry of Defence will agree to build two giant aircraft carriers for £3.5 billion. VT is expected to win 20 per cent of the work in a consortium dominated by BAE Systems.

[cockneyrebel] 19/11/2006 11:18

MSI won't be going to AIM imo. They considered it and then seemed to fully discout it imo. Seems moving to AIM these days is regarded far less attractive. So much dross on there being floated these days that many good AIM co's are getting tarnished with the same brush imo.

CR

[rivaldo] 19/11/2006 11:08

Good stuff from the Mail on Sunday today (no web link yet):



"MAIL ON SUNDAY
* VT Group is about to sign a £400 million deal to sell three patrol vessels to the Oman navy"

Just a reminder here about MSI's links with VT Group on previous patrol vessels:



For a small cap like MSI there could be a nice slice of £400m coming their way, just to add to the £15m of contracts we know about from that one previous order this year alone for MSI-Defence.

[diogenesj] 17/11/2006 17:14

Brokers are supposed to get you the best price, dayjob, whether it's on Plus or on the LSE. I'm not sure how easy it is for them to do this, or how well they do it.

Volume shown on ADVFN is LSE volume only. There might sometimes be large volumes on Plus that we (as private investors) would not know about unless we checked the specific stock on the day.

[dayjob] 17/11/2006 08:47

good call gsw - more cash i'd do the same; sadly had to choose. still watching here tho. (and nch may have helped me a bit today, any firm news and i'll move on, rather than waiting like last time and watching a 33% dip!)
gl.
diogenes - thanks for that. news to me too. so, at the risk of appearing very ignorant - is that how i got 1p above the bid? (sold online thru tdw). also, how do you reconcile total volume for the day?

[onlyonestorm] 17/11/2006 00:03

DiogenesJ, many thanks thats something I did not know!!

Stormy

[diogenesj] 16/11/2006 21:40

Plus, formerly Ofex, is a rival stockmarket to the LSE. It trades most LSE-quoted shares (but not many Aim shares). Shares that are traded on Plus are said to be Plus-traded.

It also runs what was formerly the Ofex market. Former Ofex shares are said to be Plus-quoted.

MSI is traded on Plus, and I can see 3,500 sold at 187p at 8.45 AM here:

[onlyonestorm] 16/11/2006 21:28

dayjob - my last 2 buys did'nt show either, could someone enlighten me as to what plus markets are, sorry if its an obvious question.

Stormy

[gswredland] 16/11/2006 19:54

keeping hold of these but also bought RNWH today dayjob.

[cambium] 16/11/2006 16:59

probably on Plus markets

[dayjob] 16/11/2006 16:55

well, i sold my small but perfectly formed 3,500 at 8.30'ish this morning for £1.87, cos rnwh just looking too good to ignore.
can anyone clever tell me why it hasn't shown up please?

[spiritbear] 16/11/2006 08:26

I guess yesterday and this morning share price dip is profit taking, despite any buys from Robbie followers.

[njp] 15/11/2006 22:17

Just musing on riv's post about Robbie Burns' position and stop losses. Target 245p, stop loss 145p. His average purchase price about 185p.

He's obviously thought it a worthwhile punt in the 180s, so how happy would he be to be stopped out at 145p? Seems highly unlikely right now, and if the results confirm the optimism, the share should do well over the traditionally benign winter months. So a stop loss at 145p is irrelevant.

Think back, though, to last summer. MSI hadn't put a foot wrong but Robbie's stop would most likely have been triggered, putting him out at the summer low. I can't believe he'd have been happpy with that.

There's an art about setting an appropriate stop-loss level which makes blind and unthinking obeisance to the stop-loss mantra more damaging to your wealth than not having one.

[reeshar] 15/11/2006 21:59

TD Waterhouse gives a date of 29th Nov but the LSE Almanac says sometime next week.

[rivaldo] 15/11/2006 12:33

I hadn't realised Robbie Burns bought in again yesterday. Let's hope he's right about another 50p in the price. And I got verbal confirmation from MSI that they were sticking on the main market so I have no reason to think otherwise. Here's what Robbie said yesterday:

"One new top up for me today and that's in MS International (MSI) I bought 2,000 shares at 189.45p. Target 245 stop 145. That's to add to my other two positions at 176 and 184.

Slightly irritated as I got a 15 second countdown at 186.5 but got the quote pulled as I pressed to accept and had to take the higher price. Happens sometimes and nothing one can do!

There has been much buying in the run-up to results. Not sure of the exact day but they reported on 23rd November last year so I guess results will be around then.

Its last statement it confirmed all three of its divisions (defence, forgings and forecourt structures) increased profitability and I'm hoping for a very upbeat statement. It also recently won an MOD order for naval gun systems and it will be interesting to see how this is going.

The only downside on the horizon for me was gossip about a move to AIM - however the company did say it wasn't in their plans so I hope they are to be trusted. But generally I have felt this year the company could be undervalued by 50p or so. I now hope my patience in holding will be rewarded."

[cockneyrebel] 15/11/2006 06:56

ok, will take a look, cheers

CR