Mothercare Share Discussion Threads

[discodave4] 15/3/2018 13:23

Talking of having no brains yumpy, you making any money here? lol.The share price action is testament to the negativity, doesn't need any deramping thanks.Have a good day.DD

[discodave4] 15/3/2018 12:37

TerminatedYou completely miss the point as usual.You posted the share price would double if they realised those savings, so why is it tanking?, why would it double?.DD

[terminated] 15/3/2018 10:23

Directors said they would achieve at least that not me. It wasn't made up it's in the presentation they released and I'm not misleading anyone. If they don't achieve it, it is they that would have mislead everyone. It's a bit like when you quoted the 5 year average leases, it's all in the presentation and old news. Of course maybe they lied about that as well....

[discodave4] 14/3/2018 19:14

.....or posters posting up the share price will double when they achieve their "alleged" £7m of savings...........yeah right Terminated.DD

[in_my_opinion] 14/3/2018 17:25

Think everyone's awaiting outcome of DEBT Talks with Financiers... If they see it as a bottomless pit... and avoid further funding... It'll be bust within next few weeks indeed.
(I ACTUALLY Worked at both HMV and Woolies - in their final few years of existence!)

Sad Times!

[loganair] 14/3/2018 17:14

This share is now really looking like and acting like both HMV and Wollies did with in the months before they went bust.

[fenners66] 14/3/2018 12:52

Terminated - I don't call share prices - like I said above I have no crystal ball and I cannot say this or that share is going up or down I am "not qualified to give investment advice" etc.

What I could refute was statements from dealy (like - I will paraphrase here as I am not going back to the thread)
"CLLN net debt is only say £450m "

When their own figures would refer to period end net debt as say £650m and getting worse......


Or "their pension fund deficit was perfectly manageable" - whilst the company were negotiating Hi interest terms with the pension trustees to defer contributions as they had no cash.....

So I could and often did contradict his "statements" by quoting verbatim from the RNS's as I said not speculation but available facts.

Others said that his take on CLLN was fantasy land - either he actually lost money or he didn't but if he influenced anyone to buy they most likely did lose money.

[youthstockperspective] 14/3/2018 12:40

Incredibly interesting perspectives that are worth reading:youthstockperspective.com

[terminated] 14/3/2018 12:39

But fenners when you call it wrong (we all do sometime) do you you seek people out offering a public apology? Probably not. It's a public board and people should never invest on another's opinion but do their own research. To be fair, many times in the past I've took a punt on shares that looked dead and buried and usually 2 out of 3 come good to some degree. I'm surprised to see these rise to be honest.

[fenners66] 14/3/2018 09:40

We did a lot of research on CLLN and countered every dealy post with the available facts - not speculation and warned that he was gambling - it was red or black - I have no crystal ball and share prices can do the opposite of what you expect - but the balance of probabilities for CLLN was that shareholders would come out with very little even if they survived.
But still he denied it.
Sometimes you cannot help people they make their own decisions regardless.

However whilst he sought to influence others to in the end lose money - that in itself is no confirmation that he lost money - hence my question - did he , and if so how much , lose on CLLN.

[fenners66] 14/3/2018 09:34

Did it make dealy feel good spending 6 months seeking to persuade others to invest in CLLN? Peddling lies and denials of the truth?
If any followed him , some will have lost 100%.

[bc4] 13/3/2018 16:40

Does it make you feel good when people lose money? Very sad !

[fenners66] 13/3/2018 14:15

Come on dealy tell us how much you lost on CLLN and are you losing money here ?

[fenners66] 13/3/2018 14:14

for dealy read "Comical Ali"
he spent last year making exactly the same comments on CLLN

Except he could not add something along the lines of - this is no CLLN......

Like I said - its not scientific but all dealy had to do was make his comments in support here and lo the share price falls 50% !

[bullet ant] 13/3/2018 14:10

Chesty

Just shut your KENT, you rentboy.

BA
Stealing is good.

[bullet ant] 13/3/2018 14:08

I can feel it, it's cumming !!!!!!!!

BA
Stealing is good

[loganair] 13/3/2018 10:23

dealy - what you're saying sounds like the sort of thing people were saying when it came to Woolies and more so HMV and in both cases the share holders were completely wiped out.

[yump] 13/3/2018 10:19

Good grief things get very confused when people are trying to support their own point, don't they. What on earth is the problem with just picking the relevant things, rather than distorting or including the irrelevant or misleading things, just to add weight ? It doesn't add weight, it detracts from it.

For a start, any mention of sales decline has to be compared with what is going on with other retailers, plus what has happened to floor space, plus what is going on with the product mix, if it is still in flux. ie. if the older age clothing products and toys are being removed, has the space been occupied fully by the new ranges of products yet ?

[dealy] 13/3/2018 10:13

This is an easy takeover. Liabilities are manageable and much streamlining have already been done. Good management can improve margins. 40p takeover eminently possible in the next few weeks

[dealy] 13/3/2018 09:49

Carillion was an exceptional case in more ways than one. Fraud, incompetent auditors, technical screw ups etc. Mtc does not have to be viewed with the same lense

[fenners66] 13/3/2018 09:43

"dealy
12 Mar '18 - 19:18 - 1481 of 1482

I don't think the pension is a problem. Change the discount rate to 2% (Not the current abnormal 1%) and the pension fund is ok. Every UK problem has a similar problem at present"


dealy rolling out the same diatribe that you did with CLLN - who you also said did not have a problem with their £600m pension deficit.

Of course we now know that the latest figures for CLLN's deficit is over £1bn but no doubt in dealy world that is no problem for anyone either.....

dealy you can talk about low discount rates - but how many years have they been so low now ?
Either way the problem is NOW.
CLLN spent years ignoring their pension deficit and now those pensioners will Lose big time. In fact there are mooted ideas of legislation to ensure that pension deficits are removed prior to any dividends being paid as a response.

[discodave4] 12/3/2018 20:06

No surprise really, high on the list MTC:hTTp://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/markets/article-5490177/Nearly-400-retailers-struggle-meet-higher-payments.htmlOne slightly positive thing I learned today about MTC, not that it will save them IMO, is they have on average a lot lower lease terms than NXT, which has always been considered to be a very sound business model in this regard. MTC's average term is 5 years (based on last years AR), Next's is 7.5 years.......so we'll done BOD you have got one thing cracked, just a pity about the rest really.DD