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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Loopup Group Plc LSE:LOOP London Ordinary Share GB00BYQP6S60 ORD 0.5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 172.00 170.00 180.00 177.50 170.00 172.50 311,592 16:35:19
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Software & Computer Services 34.2 0.4 2.5 68.8 95

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
13/10/2020
12:32
100% this is the new normal - all about LOOP capitalising on the opportunity presented to them. All about execution now and Im confident the management team will deliver.
valuehunter1
13/10/2020
11:52
My firm recently conducted an employee survey into their working preferences post-Covid. Three choices - Would you prefer to work in the office most of the time? Would you prefer to work from home most of the time? or Would you prefer to mix home and office working? About 170 responses - almost exactly a third for each. Which equates to half preferring to be working from home a significant part of the time. To accommodate that level of home working - almost every meeting involving a few people is going to have to be on-line. Also are you going to expect your client to o into their office in order to meet with you there - doubtful. IMHO this is the new normal.
maddox
13/10/2020
09:49
Yes I am a fan and have a low average cost The market may be looking further ahead post Covid when people return to the workplace However, Covid will change the working landscape forever so I am pretty sure the numbers will continue to grow
basem1
13/10/2020
09:25
Hi basem, On the eps declared for the 1H of 13.9p and share price 215 its p/e is 15.47 ignoring any 2H earnings. So valuation is looking very cheap for a growth company. My investment approach is based on recognising longer term value versus short term price weakness - but how quickly Mr Market recognises this anomaly is beyond my predictive powers. Simon Thompson share price target is 300p - which looks very achievable, and presents a c. 40% upside from here.
maddox
13/10/2020
08:00
Sellers about exhausted now, it has been relentless from 241.3 downwards Safe to dip a fresh toe into the water ?
basem1
13/10/2020
07:45
Clearly extra resources required to meet the incoming demand - looking forward to the next trading update and hope they announce one soon once they have more visibility vs internal forecasts. Was speaking to a couple of relatively high profile investors on Sat eve and having analysed the financials, they have decided to join on board too.
valuehunter1
13/10/2020
04:54
Appointments coming thick and fast, LOOP has a future plan in place Https://www.linkedin.com/posts/loopup_were-kicking-off-the-week-with-a-very-warm-activity-6721363859208196096-6VlQ
bigbigdave
11/10/2020
13:59
Hi Pratt, guys GAMA looks to be the closest competitor to LOOP and it won't be an accident that they have just acquired a specialist MS O365 Teams Consultancy. However, the Direct Routing opportunity is huge - so plenty of space for different suppliers to compete. I don't think that LOOP need to have a monopoly position in order to be successful. In fact GAMA's move provides validation of the opportunity. GAMA have been in the Cloud telephony, VOIP, SIP Trunking space for many years so will undoubtedly be a strong competitor. They also have a mobile proposition which may prove an advantage versus LOOP. GAMA have been focusing on the opportunity in Europe that is somewhat behind the UK in this developing market. So it'll be useful to watch GAMA's development over the coming months. It'll be good good get some of our BB posters that are telecoms specialists views. Regards Maddox
maddox
11/10/2020
10:41
Gamma communications will compare the two Quick look seems Loopup are undervalued compared to Values Growth has slowed but still good at 12%
thordon
11/10/2020
08:24
So, how do you rate Gamma vs LOOP, Pratt2? A few observations to trigger debate. GAMA 4x the employees, pays a divi, very acquisitive, rev growth not outstanding, variable mix of customers, director sales this month, 1175 placing in May. apad
apad
11/10/2020
07:56
Perspective from Gamma on Direct Routing and the opportunity...https://www.gamma.co.uk/partners/resources/amplify/ms-teams-direct-routing-opportunity-or-threat/
pratt2
10/10/2020
21:31
Some good discussions on here! Still undecided if I want to go all in here. What is a no brainer is the change in working patterns post lockdown. My company, as well as several ones I speak to, have all said they will have a significant portion of the workforce work remotely , for 2 or more days per week at least (if physical presence isn't needed ofc). Now what does this mean for LoopUp? How many other direct competitors are out there for LoopUp? For instance Gamma has a teams partnership too for Direct Routing.. what does that mean for LoopUp?
pratt2
10/10/2020
21:27
Law firm contracts in July/Aug/Sept. I have little doubt that it can dominate a niche. I can't put figures on it though. Keep researching Thordon. 😊 apad
apad
10/10/2020
20:10
Do Agree APAD That i can not not answer One thing we can agree is its a niche product and maybe has a limit in few years. If it is then can see sales between 100 million and 200 million and that takes us to the lower part of 800p per share Im in difficult place as can not sell , bought at 52 pence but back drop was a old investment that forgot about 20 years ago as lost £20k , was surprised that still had funds in the the account after 20 years. So used what had left and put on Loopup last year , felt they was hammered by the investors and rightly so as over expanded but that was a blessing in Covid 19. Anyway if it gets to 600p then have regained my 20 year lose , so 800p is my target . Already up 363% Always a story to tell , but research the company for months before bought in , since then started to re-invest in the market and except Loopup im 10% up and in this world and covid thats good. leant my young age that you can not just win all the time , but now research the share to death and stay long term Works for me now
thordon
10/10/2020
19:32
Not forgetting it, Thordon. Accept their technical advantage, and niche customers that need the functionality. Just don't know whether it will be enough for a more general take-up, or whether the others will be enough for the market. 3/4 years ago a local company threw out LoopUp. In no time flat, after introduction, the employees were using it for anything and everything - it was costing between £3k & £5k a month in basic service and add on charges. They renegotiated charges, but the employees carried on enthusiastically, so they closed it down. The world has changed since then and LoopUp has smartened up its charging systems. If you are cobbling together different systems you need local or bought-in expertise (that often wants you to use their systems 😊) And that's just for your own company. Add complex PBX, foreign telephony, and other company's offices - and you need a turnkey, training-free system/service. I.e. LoopUp. Just dunno how big that market is and whether LoopUp will crack it. Fascinating stuff. apad
apad
10/10/2020
18:50
Your forgetting they also can do what zoom and the others do , they have a platform based solo on internet connection and not phone based. the point is Zoom and Microsoft , Cisco etc can all easily be copied but Loopup is different as taken over ten years setting up a wide range telephone system with multiple pods in different country's. Can it be copied yes - is it expensive to set up Very Expensive Cisco also use Loopup system as well. Will Loopup be bought out properly not , why not - Linked to Microsoft Teams. Why would Microsoft Teams not buy Loopup - Dominance of control under the radar at present
thordon
10/10/2020
18:04
....but can they break into general multi-nationals, as they claim? I've no idea. Zoom dominates the discourse. First news of sales outside the specialist customers and I'll increase my holding. I'm stuck on this issue and can only wait until there is news. In the meantime it is a good niche business. apad
apad
10/10/2020
17:41
Hence why Loopup are attracting Law Firms and similar.
thordon
10/10/2020
17:06
" Welly_59 - 06 Aug 2020 - 09:14:46 - 824 of 1163 ☎☎ Loopup - Pain-free Teleconferencing ☎☎ - LOOP APAD. Microsoft's calling plans are pretty expensive at about £12 for local calls and £24 for international calls. And you can't bring your existing number over, you need to use whatever phone number Microsoft assign to you. With direct routing you can port your existing numbers over to your chosen service provider while at the same time saving significantly on Microsoft's calling costs. Also with Microsoft calling plan there is no support. With direct routing partner you are able to have the transition project managed for you"
apad
10/10/2020
17:04
Cool tools "Teams has a telephony add-on. "Phone System, Calling Plans, Direct Routing | Microsoft Teamswww.microsoft.com › microsoft-teams › voice-calling Microsoft Teams allows you to transition your voice calling capabilities to the cloud with integrated calling to landlines and mobile phones."" August. apad
apad
10/10/2020
16:39
Found the precise answer for myself ;-) Companies have to purchase a calling plan, unless they are at Enterprise E5 level and have a PSTN - so that's where LOOP fits in. hTtps://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/MicrosoftTeams/calling-plans-for-office-365 (link starts off talking about Skype, but is referenced from a Teams document) Different users can have different plans - i.e. domestic, international etc. So, out of the box, MS Teams can't make phone calls to non Teams users, but it is a chargeable extra. Enterprise customers can bypass that extra and use their own PSTN connectivity if they have it. According to Maddox26 (in posts above) quality will be better. I don't see MS muscling in on this, probably small fry for them.
cooltools
10/10/2020
13:47
Cooltools, You have been asking this for a while now 😊 The comment above is pitch perfect. What is at issue is whether the dominance of ZOOM will sidetrack LOOP for use by boring old general purpose multinationals. Leaving LOOP in the specialist space. Jury's out! apad
apad
10/10/2020
12:58
Maddox26 has one of the best short ways of answering your question
thordon
10/10/2020
12:57
Maddox26 Sep '20 - 17:56 - 1070 of 1157 0 6 0 Hi Pratt, I'll certainly have a go.... On the face of it web conferencing solutions all look pretty similar. However the other providers' IP communication is delivered over the top (OTT) of third party broadband where service quality cannot be managed. LOOP carries its audio channel over higher quality assured PTSN or its own quality managed virtual private network. So LOOP has a very different underlying architecture in order to deliver the higher quality experience. ZOOM, Webex, GotoMeeting, etc are all software products whereas LOOP is more service-oriented. Also, their products are all feature-rich whereas LOOP is deliberately simple and easy to use. Theoretically it's possible that any business could look to replicate LOOP's business model. However, it would require investment to build a World-wide Virtual Private Network and the functionality to compete in this niche. Microsoft's strategy appears to be the Unified Communications Platform provider of choice - rather than a provider of telecoms services. By opening up their Teams User Base to allow other providers to offer telecom services they are thus clearly indicating no intention to compete aggressively in this space. ZOOM is experiencing explosive growth so I would doubt would see a benefit in reorienting it's whole business model to compete in a smaller niche. It would also be to acknowledge that their current service doesn't assure a quality experience. They are probably focusing on resolving their software security issues. None of the web conferencing providers, I am aware of, have the infrastructure to compete in the Direct Routing market - and I doubt Microsoft would allow them to integrate with Teams. Anyone else have other thoughts on this?
thordon
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