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[medieval blacksmith] 29/9/2021 15:05

There is no 'great' left in Britain I'm afraid.

[scruff1] 29/9/2021 15:00

arja
If you think Starmers speech was a good one you either werent listening or have very low standards. It was cringeworthy

[xxxxxy] 29/9/2021 14:50

EU fishing bonanza – UK issues licences to 1,700 EU boats to fish in UK watersAnd 117 of these can now sail up to 6 miles from the UK coast to take British fish?Montage © Facts4EU.Org 2021Facts4EU.Org reveals the latest shocking post-Brexit figures which will leave UK fishermen reelingBrexit was supposed to have delivered control of the UK's territorial waters back to the United Kingdom. Yesterday, official figures released by the British Government show just how shallow this promise has turned out to be, thanks to the demands of the EU during the exit negotiations.Since 01 January 2021, almost 1,700 licences have been issued to EU27 fishing vessels to enter British waters (within 200 nautical miles). 117 of these are able to sail up to six miles from the United Kingdom's shores to ply their trade, with more expected soon.Of the 1,700 EU27 vessels, some are the notorious 'EU factory ships' which are alleged to cause major damage to fishing stocks and to the marine environment by 'hoovering up' everything from the sea bed.BREXIT FACTS4EU.ORG SUMMARY1,681 EU27 fishing vessels can now enter UK watersFRANCE 44%Ireland 22%Netherlands 11%Denmark 7%Spain 5%Belgium 4%Germany 3%Portugal 3%Sweden 1%?© Brexit Facts4EU.Org - click to enlargeBritish waters, still open to the EU27From the "A La Garde de Dieu" to the "Zuidersee" (from Belgium), Facts4EU.Org has analysed the details of the 1,681 EU27 registered fishing vessels which now have the right to enter the UK's 'Exclusive Economic Zone' and UK territorial waters, thanks to the agreements the Government was required to sign up to by the EU Commission.A UK Government spokesperson said yesterday:"The government has this year issued a large number of licences to EU vessels seeking to fish in our exclusive economic zone (12-200 nautical mile zone) and our territorial sea (6-12 nautical mile zone). Our approach has been reasonable and fully in line with our commitments in the Trade and Cooperation Agreement (TCA)."?© CrownThe French are still complaining, despite all of thisOne of the many complaints made by President Macron and his government since Brexit has been that the UK is deliberately 'holding up' the issuing of licences to French fishing boats to fish in British waters.In reality, Facts4EU.Org's analysis shows that 738 licences have been issued to French vessels in the past nine months. This is 44% of the entire EU27 total.?Only 35 small vessels from the entire EU27 fleet have been refused licences – and this is only in relation to the 6-12 nautical miles of territorial waters off the British coast. The reason is that these vessels were unable to prove they had been fishing that close to the UK's coastline while the UK was still a member of the EU. If they provide the appropriate paperwork, they too will be granted licences.OBSERVATIONSRule Britannia?For centuries Great Britain has had a worldwide reputation as a maritime nation. One of the benefits of Brexit was supposed to have been the return of control of our own waters to its rightful place. It is deeply regrettable that this has not happened, thanks to the onerous demands from the EU and in particular the French.Brexit is already proving successful on many levels but there are two very notable exceptions. One is the effective partitioning of the UK by cutting off Northern Ireland from full UK sovereignty and placing it firmly under the yoke of the EU and its legal framework, and the other is what can only be described as the sell-out of the British fishing community.With the United Kingdom once again demonstrating its global reach, and with its new aircraft carrier Queen Elizabeth II asserting the right under international law to sail through the South China Sea, we suggest that Lord Frost might wish to put the plight of British fishermen in the seas around our own coast somewhat further up his list of priorities.?If the Government were to do this, we suspect it might go down well with voters across the country, not only in our embattled coastal communities.Facts4EU.Org needs you today

[xxxxxy] 29/9/2021 14:47

John Redwood@johnredwoodThe UK was wrong to give the EU more transitional fishing rights and has been very generous in allowing so many vessels into our waters. The EU does not reciprocate when we are generous but instead makes nasty threats.

[jordaggy] 29/9/2021 14:40

Such drivel. Please don't post MF rambling nonsense. I know there is always a need to stimulate some enthusiasm for the share, but MF, really?

[utrickytrees] 29/9/2021 14:32

I briefly got arrested for trying to steal the Lord mayor's golden tap at the opening ceremony of the Munich Beer festival one year. They let me off but told me I was a very naughty boy.

[arja] 29/9/2021 14:07

OMG , I give up as you are obviously totally indoctrinated by the right wing rags as
every comment you make is a soundbite from the rags . you must develop original thoughts and not just quote slogans from papers . I know why you call yourself Winston as you think you are fighting the 2nd world war . we had equal status with Germany , France etc .
tell your children or maybe grandkids why you ruined their future !

[arja] 29/9/2021 14:01

OMG , I give u

[winston wolf] 29/9/2021 13:39

If we had remained, we would have ended up being one state out of twenty seven states of The united States of Germany

[bobby semen] 29/9/2021 13:36

welcome back vermin

clean nappy now ?

[arja] 29/9/2021 13:31

wolfie ,
what garbage . if we were governed by EU why would we have a parliament as not necessary?? !! Stop reading soundbites in Mail and right wing rags and use you brain sport !

[winston wolf] 29/9/2021 13:27

...yet you were happy to be eventually governed by the proven incompetent EU...

[arja] 29/9/2021 13:23

watching Kier speech and quite a good one but I do not like him being critical of the SNP in Scotland ! I say good luck to the scots in their fight for independence and not being governed by an incompetent right wing government in westminster under a FPTP system .

[medieval blacksmith] 29/9/2021 13:19

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE EU LORRY DRIVERS HELP US!

WE LOVE YOU REALLY!


LOL!

SUCK!
SUCK!

[arja] 29/9/2021 13:18

wolfie ,
even that would not have been enough to leave the EU with all the adverse consequences . A pity you can not see that , eg ending FOM which many young people will not forgive the ignorant , bigoted xenophobic little englanders for .
Yes , the EU could have given a bit more to Cameron but we already had favoured treatment as a special race of people compared with the deal other nations had, eg NOT in schengen which is a bad thing IMO. Now the Tories whinge about all the bad things but you can not leave a club and expect to enjoy the benefits of membership !

[medieval blacksmith] 29/9/2021 13:07

Troy

"And if the referendum had been fraudulent it would have resulted in legal action being taken. As Gecko correctly points out there were several votes that enforced the referendum result."

Several votes didn't enforce the referendum result. It was fudged into GE. People vote then on all sorts of issues. Brexit it its current form has NEVER had majority mandate. Brexit in its current form isn't what Vote Leave were campaigning for. As it happens legal action was taken in the course of all this activity, campaign rules were broken and a prison sentence was handed out. You obviously don't read the real news.