Lloyds Banking Share Discussion Threads

[k38] 12/12/2020 15:37

Macron and mafia can blackmail us as long as they like and as long we are in talks with them... after that they can't do nothing. Unless we agree to a % on our fishing rights.

[k38] 12/12/2020 15:34

I don't understand how some of you think for french fishing boats to come and go just like that and taking something it's not their to take... it's not that simple. We can block them, we can take their boats and so on. The waters are our borders!!No deal means it's over for them !!Poikka: I'd love to hear Tobias's solution when the French fishing boats continue plundering our waters.

[bargainbob] 12/12/2020 15:08

Shame they did not invite Boris .

[poikka] 12/12/2020 14:18

I'd love to hear Tobias's solution when the French fishing boats continue plundering our waters.

[cheshire pete] 12/12/2020 14:15

SKY headline criticising HMG for deploying Navy to protect our waters

Shock....horror...then read on and it was from Tobias Ellwood, an arch remainer still can't accept we've left.

[xxxxxy] 12/12/2020 14:05

Sovereignty is worth much much more than any deal with the discredited EUSSR.The EUSSR never wanted an actual Deal. Just wanted us as a Treasure Island, a colony of the German Empire, now known as EU. A Fig leaf for its embarrassing past.Sovereignty means Democracy and doing things Democratically.Sovereignty is priceless. Not some afterthought, like call it sovereignty if you like.We have seen the true EU, as a vile evil EUSSR.No DealWTOLiberty

[xxxxxy] 12/12/2020 13:56

Ireland.. They are family...Paul Rowntree12 Dec 2020 1:47PMThey only have themselves to blame. We won't put a border up but their colonial masters in Brussels will.They are free to rejoin the UK at any time though and I'm sure they will get a far better deal with the Dial remaining essentially sovereign like the Isle of Mans Tynwald.All that would be needed are some minor cosmetic changes like altering traffic lights to go red+amber before green, painting postboxes red, ditching the Euro for the pound, different face on stamps and the elected official in Dublin Castle being renamed from President to Governor General.... Daily Telegraph

[crazi] 12/12/2020 13:45

There is so many pros and cons it's enough to make your head explode. One thing I do feel though is that either way "just make a final decision!".

Market hates uncertainty and the last 4 years has held the UK back no matter what side you are on.

I was a remainer but right now I just want a decision and if that is no deal then so be it - we have no other choice but to make it work then and get on with it...

[cheshire pete] 12/12/2020 13:28

Alphorn: "When one of these nutty posters runs out of rational arguments they fall back into history."

Surprised at you Alphorn that as a seasoned investor you appear to scorn history. The sayings "history repeats itself" and "if you don't know where you've been how can you know where you are going" are things I try and reflect on sometimes when making investment decisions.

[scruff1] 12/12/2020 13:27

Hugely disagreed with Ollie on Tuesday though. Couldnt see the point of bringing on two defenders when we are losing and need to score to progress. Defied tactical gravity imo

[smartie6] 12/12/2020 13:26

A No Deal will be great for this country. May take a few years but we can be autonomous and self reliant. Those who say this is inward looking maybe the ones advising this was the best thing that could have happened in 5years.

[scruff1] 12/12/2020 13:23

Minnie
Agree with every word

[scruff1] 12/12/2020 13:21

Dr Bio
As always with stats it pays to be careful.
Your figures are the tonnage, mine were the value. (Same source). Which is the most useful figure?
My point anyway was that there are other markets available (thats not to underestimate the value of France at the moment). Our imports of fish are £3.6b. Our exports are £1.9b ( same source). My point here is maybe there is room for keeping more of our own fish.
I do hope when this deal/no deal is concluded Remainers are going to help us move forward rather than living in the past as Little Europeans

[minerve 2] 12/12/2020 12:53

Scruff

Cavanni is a top class forward, no doubts about that. Always enjoy watching him play, especially in Europe and at international level.

Ole needs to show Pogba the door and a few other players. He needs the owners and executives to back him or it will just be a case of being undermined and Man U will not get anywhere. They don't seem to have continued the same business ethos they had with Fergie.

I have a sneaky feeling they might get something from the Derby today though. Oil City are not the same with Kompany gone.

[chavitravi2] 12/12/2020 12:45

Did you know UK wine was voted one of the best wines?
We have become quite a producer over the last few years. Product of global warming.

[stonedyou] 12/12/2020 12:40

Macron gloats 'I want my share of the cake' - French boats must still plunder UK seas


EMMANUEL Macron dismissed accusations of pressuring Britain into allowing French boats access to UK waters but insisted there was no way he was giving up his share of fish quotas.


Emmanuel Macron said he does not want France to have its "cake and eat it" but he is also not going to give up "his share of cake" and wants a good Brexit trade deal for French fishing communities. Mr Macron has remained tough on the UK and urged negotiator Michel Barnier to ensure continued access to British waters is granted to European vessels past the end of the transition period on December 31. Macron gloated: "I won't give up my share of the cake"

The French President said its boats must still be able to plunder UK seas despite no Brexit deal.

Asked whether Mr Macron wanted to have his "cake and eat it too," Mr Macron said: "I don't know what information you are referring to but it depends on whether there is an agreement on the future relationship or not.

"This depends on the transitional measures adopted. Because on fisheries, we know the terms and I'm coherent.

"I don't want the cake and eating it too, no, but I do want a fair agreement."

He said he would not budge on fish: "I'm not asking to have my cake and eat it, no. All I want is a cake that's worth its weight. Because I won't give up my share of it either."

[xxxxxy] 12/12/2020 12:10

?John Redwood@johnredwood·1hPlease Michael Gove set out how we will use our new freedoms to improve our country instead of responses to Project Fear predictions. Bring on the tax cuts, Freeports, and Enterprise Zones. Lets have more home grown food and manufactured products. Brexit helps levelling up.

[mr.elbee] 12/12/2020 11:55

Good old Nige, who does influence many Pi's thru his new job as a fundie....says UK stocks will do great after Brexit ...... whatever way it goes.. as opposed to those FTSE stocks based on overseas earnings.

Well lloyds ticks ALL of the domestically generated no margin not debt bound not run by a chimp[yet!] boxes in this communist anti capitalist tragedy..that is the uk

[geckotheglorious] 12/12/2020 11:34

FYI

Changes in UK exports to top markets.


1. United States $72,578,799,000 +11.1%
2. Hong Kong $11,175,298,000 +8.5%
3. China $30,001,337,000 +8.3%
4. Poland $6,820,300,000 +0.9%
5. Germany $46,588,541,000 -0.3%
6. Singapore $6,848,761,000 -0.4%
7. Ireland $27,855,581,000 -1.2%
8. Japan $8,269,630,000 -1.5%
9. Spain $13,709,383,000 -1.6%
10. United Arab Emirates $9,915,852,000 -1.8%


The future is the "Americas" and Asia.
Europe is toast. It is aged, overly bureaucratic, anti competitive, and past its sell by date. It is in decline.

Only an idiot thinks we should tether ourselves to bloc in decline.