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[corpbull] 27/10/2019 22:47

I despise men who hit women.

"Do you despise women that hit men?"

Not really. No.

M2 you need to have a Brain Scan!

Do you despise Women that lies and Steal your money?

Do you despise Women that take you to the Dry Cleaners and hang you dry?

I would! They deserves all that is coming to her!

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:37

Brexiteers didn’t crack and have now finally won the battle, writes FREDERICK FORSYTH


There will come a time when the utter chaos to which we have all been subjected

for the past three-and-a-half years will be examined with hindsight, made sense of

and explained. But some things are unavoidable even now.


They all date back to the truly extraordinary night of June 23, 2016 – the night

they counted the British referendum votes. Slowly the high-ups, here and in

Europe, realised with stunned horror they had all been wrong. The British had

clearly voted to leave the european Union. The referendum was totally legal,

created by an act of parliament with huge majorities. It was not rigged.

Campaigners on both sides had exaggerated but that is true of all general

elections – which was exactly what the referendum was.And all political groupings,

including today’s remainers, had pledged to respect and abide by the outcome. And

then they got the shock of their complacent little lives and half of them reneged

on that pledge. They are still doing so, with increasing hysteria.


Our media were so obsessed with the situation in the UK they ignored the shock levels in Brussels.


Over there it was as if they had stuck their collective thumb into an electric socket.

But they recovered and devised an agenda that abides to this day – that if the UK insisted on departing it would do so on conditions so utterly ruinous that no other country would ever con- sider following suit.

That has been the eU’s policy for over three years.

In its pursuit Brussels soon received a gift from the gods.

The Tory government appointed the worst prime minister in history to succeed the failed David Cameron.

Predictably the very clever negotiators in Brussels ran rings around her.

We have all watched the schmoozing, over-long handshakes, embraces, back-pats and beaming smiles.

All phoney as a four-pound note. For the True Believers, here and across the Channel, leaving the EU is not a judgmental error. It is heresy.




The complete unication of the continent into one federal nation-state is not a project.

It is a faith, a creed, a religion, and we have unforgivably offended it.

Hence the unrelenting campaign to force us to revoke our decision. The diehards of Brussels are not our friends at all.

A key of course has been the deliberately invented and unnecessary Irish backstop, which does not apply to the four Swiss borders with the EU nor Norway’s long border with Sweden.

Also invented was the No-Deal catastrophe.

Add to that the revoke campaign inside Britain, ardently supported and funded by renegades of all stripes.

This in-house revoke campaign has steadily grown into a parliamentary majority in Commons and Lords, even though its supporters once swore to respect the referendum outcome.

Then came Boris Johnson, the first Brexiteer from Day One.

It took the lumbering Tory party years to finally get there but, despite half the media conducting the most virulent hate campaign I have ever seen, this is where we now are.

A true Brexiteer is in Downing Street.

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:33

bbalan - "National identity and its' relevance in the European Union is well understood by those of us who voted in 1975 to 'stay in' the then 'Common Market', of which we had been a Member for 3 years. Nationalism is a fickle concept oft used for nefarious deeds that so often lead to War. The idea of developing an encompassing identity to circumvent this was and is welcome. (Red ticks of course welcome)"

Think you're not quite getting it, bb: it was Maastricht, on which we didn't get a vote, that made the difference, not 1975.

Maastricht changed the EEC into the EC, ie., from being an economic structure to an all encompassing organisation. Lisbon just adds to that and will lead Europe into its logical (to some) conclusion - the USoE.

You may consider national identities immaterial, and maybe one day that might come to pass, but it's quite possible to keep those national traits and characteristics without it leading to war, as you suggest. This is 2019, not 1938, and communication and travel have got rid of the extreme versions of national ID - save for the most extreme one-party states, and even there folk outside of party HQs are accommodating to other nationalities.

[sentimentrules] 27/10/2019 22:30

Breaking News..."Minerve found battered to death by angry ex"

But that's ok. ..he said it's acceptable anyway..

[sentimentrules] 27/10/2019 22:28

Take it Myra Hindley and Co are alright in your book then.

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:28

Max #280786 "These job creation schemes and the billions put into consumers’ pockets may have supported the economy in rocky times." No kiddin'! But much of the rest of the article is just rubbish. PPI certainly is not "is the biggest rip-off in British banking history," or any sort of rip-off at all.

Essentially it was a disguised way of charging less creditworthy customers more for their loans. I feel certain a lot of those customers knew this perfectly well and were quite happy to go along with the little charade.

[minerve 2] 27/10/2019 22:25

"Do you despise women that hit men?"

Not really. No.

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:23

From another BB:

IF WE DO NOT LEAVE SOON AT THE BEGINNING OF NEXR YEAR THE BIG EU TAKEOVER WILL START

AND WE WILL LOSE CONTROL OF

1: The UK along with all existing members of the EU lose their abstention veto in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon Treaty when the system changes to that of majority acceptance with no abstentions or vetos being allowed.
2: All member nations will become states of the new federal nation of the EU by 2022 as clearly laid out in the Lisbon treaty with no exceptions or vetos.
3: All member states must adopt the Euro by 2022 and any new member state must do so within 2 years of joining the EU as laid down in the Lisbon treaty.

AND
4: The London stock exchange will move to Frankfurt in 2020 and be integrated into the EU stock exchange resulting in a loss of 200,000 plus jobs in the UK because of the relocation. (This has already been pre-agreed and is only on a holding pattern due to the Brexit negotiations, which if Brexit does happen, the move is fully cancelled - but if not and the UK remains a member its full steam ahead for the move.)
5: The EU Parliament and ECJ become supreme over all legislative bodies of the UK.
6: The UK will adopt 100% of whatever the EU Parliament and ECJ lays down without any means of abstention or veto, negating the need for the UK to have the Lords or even the Commons as we know it today.


BUT IT IS A LOT WORSE THAN THAT

ALSO
7: The UK will NOT be able to make its own trade deals.
8: The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade tariffs.
9 The UK will NOT be able to set its own trade quotas.
10: The UK loses control of its fishing rights
11: The UK loses control of its oil and gas rights
12: The UK loses control of its borders and enters the Schengen region


NOT JUST THAT ALSO THIS
13: The UK loses control of its planning legislation
14: The UK loses control of its armed forces including its nuclear deterrent
15: The UK loses full control of its taxation policy
16: The UK loses the ability to create its own laws and to implement them
17: The UK loses its standing in the Commonwealths
18: The UK loses control of any provinces or affiliated nations e.g.: Falklands, Cayman Islands, Gibraltar etc


AND THE FINAL HUMILIATION


19: The UK loses control of its judicial system
20: The UK loses control of its international policy
21: The UK loses full control of its national policy
22: The UK loses its right to call itself a nation in its own right.
23: The UK loses control of its space exploration program
24: The UK loses control of its Aviation and Sea lane jurisdiction
25: The UK loses its rebate in 2020 as laid down in the Lisbon treaty
26: The UK’s contribution to the EU is set to increase by an average of 1.2bn pa and by 2.3bn pa by 2020

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:21

LABOUR is AntiDemocracy.
LABOUR is BAD.

Let's give Freedom and Democracy a chance.

LEAVE and WTO

And save 33 billion for the British People.

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:19

I dont follow the Fool site. (maywillow27 Oct '19 - 10:48 - 280794)

But that warning is pretty stark.

How accurate are the Fools predictions?

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:18

how can a one-off PPI bill ,which is now in the rear view mirror,be a cause for anything other than jubilation?.

It is priced in.

But of course the establishment dont like AHO, who has taken all the cushy jobs off their pals, and shown them up for what they are..and he doesnt believe in the revolving door.

So get the analysts to trash the company!

yeah!

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:17

Hi all, the sudden drop in share price in Ng. On friday Triggered my tracking stop loss. What is the understanding of the current 30 day b&b laws? The way I am reading it, is if the price drops and i buy them back within 30 days I am liable for cgt on the difference between my sell and new buy price. If i dont rebuy, the cgt will be based on my original buy price and the sell price.(i was in profit somewhat) is my understanding correct?

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:17

ChrisS


Posted October 27, 2019 at 8:38 am | Permalink


A perfect summary of the position we now find ourselves in.

When the history books come to be written, this parliament will go down as the most reprehensible and undemocratic in modern times. I don’t think the Remainer majority in Parliament realises just how close it has brought our democracy towards failure.

Thanks to the actions of the Remainers and the fixed term parliament act, we are within a hair’s breath of Parliament losing the consent of the public and they might yet manage to tip us over the edge.

Ask yourself the question : Had Brexit been an issue supported predominantly by people of the left of society, rather than those on the right, would we not have seen an unprecedented level of civil unrest, riots even, long before now ?

[stonedyou] 27/10/2019 22:16

Boptah


Posted October 27, 2019 at 3:44 pm | Permalink


As far as i am aware. We leave the EU on Oct 31st with no deal currently. There is no obligation for Boris to accept an extension because Parliament has consented to implement the WAB as per the Letwin amendment. and so this has neutralised the surrender Act.
the 2018 Withdrawal agreement takes us out on Thursday. Unless there is a better offer of course.

[sentimentrules] 27/10/2019 22:13

Do you despise women that hit men?

[minerve 2] 27/10/2019 22:07

I despise men who hit women.

[sentimentrules] 27/10/2019 21:59

I thought it was. Most would just go buy drugs or something. Instead they would go to hospital with a busted face.. he maybe saved their lives....

[minerve 2] 27/10/2019 21:53

That's not very nice.