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[grahamite2] 27/6/2019 16:14

I'm all for adverts on ADVFN if they help keep the site viable, but some of the recent travel ads don't fit properly on the page and are troublesome.

[alphorn] 27/6/2019 14:30

Well here is £4bn pa gone in the blink of an eye with this ruling that has just been announced this afternoon. The UK government will be facing costs of £4bn a year after being denied leave to appeal against a landmark ruling that pension reforms discriminated against younger workers.
At least some protection for younger workers.

[alphorn] 27/6/2019 14:22

Not only is Guy Verhofstadt a pretty good classic race driver but he has a very good command of English that would do credit to any Brit. An extract today ……"reality does not square with Johnson’s ensorcelling combination of false promises, pseudo-patriotism, and foreigner bashing". He would give BoJo a run for his money.

[careful] 27/6/2019 14:19

When Boris Johnson said yesterday that the chances of not getting a deal were 1 million to 1, I was confused.
What is he up to?

If that turned out not to be true, then he would quickly become a laughing stock.
That may be ok right now, but not if he is PM.

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2019 13:55

Let the UK be FRIENDS with Russia.I havent written being friends with PutinLEAVE and WTO

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2019 13:36

And Merkel with Vichy Macron DO WANT A EUROPEAN ARMY TO CONFRONT RUSSIA.

Recipe for WW3

LEAVE and LEAVE and LEAVE

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2019 13:33

Boris for PM

LEAVE and WTO

And save 39billion for the British People

[xxxxxy] 27/6/2019 13:32

How likely is No Deal?

By JOHNREDWOOD | Published: JUNE 27, 2019

No Deal is a misnomer, like much of the rest of the Brexit debate. No deal means leaving without signing the Withdrawal Agreement, but with a number of other agreements in place governing trade facilitation, aviation, haulage and government procurement. It would also mean using the extensive rules and regulations of the WTO to govern our trade with the rest of the EU just as our trade with the rest of the world is governed today. The Withdrawal Agreement was not of course allowing exit any time soon, as it was a decision to delay exit for 21 to 45 months, with uncertainty about how to get out thereafter.

The Withdrawal Agreement has been three times rejected by Parliament, and overwhelmingly defeated in the European elections with only 9% supporting the party that proposed it. It is possible a new Prime Minister will be able to negotiate enhanced arrangements before October 31 that add to the various agreements available for exit then without the Withdrawal Treaty. The new Prime Minister should offer a comprehensive free trade agreement, with a text based on EU/Canada and EU/Japan. We could then proceed to leave without imposing tariffs if the EU agrees to negotiate such an agreement.

Some say Parliament can block leaving without signing the Withdrawal Agreement. That would be very difficult for Parliament to do. If the new Prime Minister wishes just to leave he need not ask for a further delay to our exit after 31 October, so we will just leave. How would Parliament be able to make a Prime Minister seek a delay when he does not wish to do so? Parliament anyway cannot legislate to require a delay, because a delay not only needs a Prime Ministerial request of the EU but also a positive response by the EU. Mrs May decided she wanted a delay and asked for it regardless of the view of Parliament last time this arose. European law is superior to UK law all the time we stay in, and under EU law we are out on 31 October unless something else happens.

In this issue the PM is central. If the PM is determined to leave without the Withdrawal Agreement and keen to keep to the specified date, it would be very difficult for Parliament to find a way to stop him.

[minerve 2] 27/6/2019 13:23

Japan are wasting their time. The clowns listen more to the chimp who is good at pretending he is your best mate ‘darn pub, innit’.

[ariane] 27/6/2019 13:15

mr.elbee
27 Jun '19 - 13:13 - 262966 of 262966
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assert all you want...neither of us can see into the future.

I prefer to argue and look at the evidence.


LOL

YOU HAVE GIVEN NO EVIDENCE

ALL YOU HAVE POSTED IS WHAT MIGHT BE, COULD BE

TAKE A LOOK UK IS 3RD ARMS PRODUCER AFER USA AND RUSSIA

[mr.elbee] 27/6/2019 13:13

assert all you want...neither of us can see into the future.

I prefer to argue and look at the evidence.
Oh,is the EU a religion now like global warming and trans this and that?

Do tell.

[ariane] 27/6/2019 13:10

mr.elbee
27 Jun '19 - 13:00 - 262962 of 262963
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Because the anti democratic EU will drive the weaker member states into pushing for more pressure on Russia. Ukraine will be the flash point..Countries like Hungary, the Czech Republic, Greece and Italy, will not agree to this but the new creation of a European army ...basically run by the Germans...will be the beginning of a series of threats. At some point the very tolerant Mr Putin will retire ,to be replaced by a less tolerant leader. America will have none of this EU nonsense, so the Commission will be on its own..and with domestic problems piling up because of the fundamentally unsustainable euro, the standard way for non democratic dictaorships to survive is to create an external war.One obvious example is Argentina 1982.


DISAGREE WITH YOUR UNFOUNDED PERHAPS,MIGHTS AND WHAT IF

TAKE A LOOK AT COUNTRIES PRODUCING MILITARY WEAR TO PROP UP THEIR ECONOMIES


UK BREXIT HAS WEAKENED THE EU TO THE JOY OF USA AND RUSSIA

IF ANY COUNTRY STARTS A WAR,IT WILL BE TRUMPETLAND

[mr.elbee] 27/6/2019 13:08

She is, if you believe in German supremacy and idiot cultural non assimilation theories and the totally stupid euro and deliberately wrecking the Greek economy Yeah..Great!.

Adenaur, was great as were most of the German leaders up to her...Willi Brandt and quite a few others.
Who said " the issue of further European integration is essentially a question of war and peace"?

answer.. Chancellor Kohl

Translated as....if you don't do what we say,, well we cannot be responsible for what subsequently happens.…... ….

[mr.elbee] 27/6/2019 13:00

Because the anti democratic EU will drive the weaker member states into pushing for more pressure on Russia. Ukraine will be the flash point..Countries like Hungary, the Czech Republic, Greece and Italy, will not agree to this but the new creation of a European army ...basically run by the Germans...will be the beginning of a series of threats. At some point the very tolerant Mr Putin will retire ,to be replaced by a less tolerant leader. America will have none of this EU nonsense, so the Commission will be on its own..and with domestic problems piling up because of the fundamentally unsustainable euro, the standard way for non democratic dictaorships to survive is to create an external war.One obvious example is Argentina 1982.

[alphorn] 27/6/2019 12:57

maxidi - YOU should be ashamed wishing bad health on someone.

[gotnorolex] 27/6/2019 12:56

She'll be OK! Hope it's no more St Vitus' dance whilst she's on stage!

[adrian j boris] 27/6/2019 12:53

mr.elbee
27 Jun '19 - 12:48 - 262958 of 262958
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Th EU will cause the next war.


why do you that

[mr.elbee] 27/6/2019 12:48

Th EU will cause the next war.

[adrian j boris] 27/6/2019 12:45

some say no more than a tooth filling, others say a small stats error

[maxidi] 27/6/2019 12:44

Merkel looks in very bad health this morning. Shame! :o)