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LDSG Leeds Group Plc

11.00
0.00 (0.00%)
17 Apr 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Leeds Investors - LDSG

Leeds Investors - LDSG

Share Name Share Symbol Market Stock Type
Leeds Group Plc LDSG London Ordinary Share
  Price Change Price Change % Share Price Last Trade
0.00 0.00% 11.00 07:30:37
Open Price Low Price High Price Close Price Previous Close
11.00 11.00 11.00 11.00 11.00
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Industry Sector
GENERAL FINANCIAL

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Posted at 06/2/2019 21:28 by callumross
Realise these are a slow burner Arthur. Class myself as a value investor, hence hold BISI, BLEY, PTD etc. BISI has proved decent investment but not the other two! In fact BLEY being delisted and I am forced to either accept £1 per share or hold shares unlisted. Will probably reinvest BLEY proceeds here when received in March. Never learn!
Posted at 18/6/2018 17:56 by rhomboid
Yup I like TRD a lot...don’t own it but great niche business, lots of discussion on Twitter with some v intelligent investors..I think it’s worth persevering as some discussion boards are becoming like the Mary Celeste.
Posted at 20/11/2013 22:02 by coolen
Arthur, spot on !

This guy hates writing cheques to his investors, especially for dividends.

The proposed cash spend on acquisitions will be another excuse to keep the pen in his pocket.
Posted at 11/10/2013 21:43 by coolen
Interested parties may like to investigate how Chapelthorpe is faring.

Gyllie took over Chapelthorpe PLC 4 years ago. Some stockmarket investors remain locked in, including most preference shareholders.

Company name changed recently to "International Fibres". I know nothing more.
Posted at 10/10/2013 23:25 by coolen
Sadly, I agree with Arthur on the dividend front.

I cannot recall a Gyllie company which has ever paid an Ordinary Share dividend.

However, Gyllie expects to make money long-term so perhaps this time minority investors will too......eventually.
Posted at 11/9/2013 21:13 by coolen
Does anyone else feel that Gyllie and Private Investors are a contradiction ?
Posted at 31/7/2013 22:56 by coolen
Leeds enthusiasts should not forget the outcome for investors in PG-controlled Chapelthorpe (code: "CPL"). By chance, a geographical neighbour.
Posted at 28/1/2011 06:06 by cg1953
arthur
absolutely right.
cant imagine DK has spent near as damn it 170k just to sit and wait while the swedes ponder there next money wasting adventure !!!
further, the initial research i have now done is that he is not a passive investor.
am often reminded of the swedes initial offer and eventual takeover of 'british mohair spinners' where camellia [cam] held a longstanding 30% and forced them to raise there offer by counter bidding.
clutching at straws or just wishful thinking maybe, but this could get interesting !!!

p.s. clearly DK didnt want another 25k @19 .....LOL
Posted at 26/10/2010 11:30 by deswalker
HP,

Sorry if my post was unclear. I was saying "steady on" in relation to the share price tick-up not in relation to anything you said. A tick-up here always has to be greeted with a sarky comment. It's tradition :o)

The situation with DWSN is complicated. Clearly some sophisticated investors (Pontek etc) see real value in it but the pension is proving an issue.

At the last LDSG AGM I asked PG about the DWSN acquisition. At the time there was a lot of stock changing hands at 1.5p and Pontek were buying. Seeing as that is the price LDSG bought in at I asked why they weren't buying up all these blocks instead and then making a mandatory offer at 2p say. The reason given was the pension. Even if they had done as I asked and the bid had failed, any resultant holding of more than 35% would have seen the Pension Regulator get heavy with LDSG in the event of a DWSN failure. Less than 35% is much safer.

So then I asked about the circumstances surrounding LDSG's acquisition of the 29% of DWSN and why LDSG had demanded that the existing Chairman should leave. The answer given was that this Chairman had given assurances about the DWSN pension situation prior to LDSG buying in that subsequently proved to be incorrect. Something to do with agreements between various parties being set in stone that then proved to be set in sand. Blame clearly needs apportioning on both sides if due-diligence wasn't carried out appropriately and inaccurate statements were made.

Finally, PG stressed that they still see considerable value in DWSN, that they were now very happy with the DWSN team in place and that this team were working "flat out" to solve the various issues. Clearly the share price and results are not showing this at the moment :-/

HTH,

Des
Posted at 22/11/2009 19:25 by arthur_lame_stocks
I think with Leeds we should give hime some credit. Between PG, JC and EW they are only drawing a salary of about £30k combined. I'm sure if they wanted to they could screw £300k a year out of it.

I also don't believe that he's happy to let companies deteriorate, although he's obviously not averse to putting in a low bid and getting the value for himself where possible.

I think the thing with Gyllenhammar is to recognise that he's not the patron saint of private investors and that he's trying to make himself money. Also he's a bit hit and miss and he's bought into some dreadful companies where I simply couldn't understand what he saw.

That said he can also be a catalyst for change and i've made money following him a number of times. I'm currently invested in LDSG, DSN and HTH and in all three i'm not currently worried about the investment, despite sitting on substantial losses on both DSN and LDSG as I don't think any are going bust.

What I wish is that he'd get back to doing what he was known for which is breaking up these small groups and giving the cash back to shareholders. Now he just seems to want to build businesses up.

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