Kier Share Discussion Threads

[itisonlymoney] 03/10/2024 14:40

Actual kier story here about Kier's Greenwich University project.

[itisonlymoney] 03/10/2024 14:39

always looking for the most negative angle in a positive story. lower rates are better for the economy. inflation is low, so lower rates. all good news. lower costs for business and kier's customers.

[stutes] 03/10/2024 12:48

Governor of BoE is reported considering more aggressive rate cuts, providing inflation is low, makes me think UK economy is flat lining?

[itisonlymoney] 03/10/2024 10:56

wally you were posting on here 10times a day or more every day for five years i reckon. we've had a year off or maybe two from you, that's all. the kier shareprice can take care of itself. maybe you didn't read what was written earlier. people have been hardly posting on here. maybe two or three times a week. you really are a blatant liar. that's why youget "attacked". all the lies. i see you're just as popular on other advfn threads.

"winding people up just for fun". right. that is you, needing the attention. very boring. no one takes you seriously. just a saddo. a shame. some threads have genuine investors and genuine conversation. weird and petty that you think this is a good use of your time. GFY. ATB.

[wallywoo] 03/10/2024 10:32

Lol, itsonlymoney and stdy have been on here for 6 years. Posting on average once per day.


You attack any poster who has concerns about this investment.


And you think I am the Troll. Lol. So, any reader's who are thinking about investing here. Realise that this investment has such trouble matching their book (seller's and buyer's), that they have to constantly promote this share on public BB'S.

I just like to wind them up every now and then, just for fun!!!

LOL.

[itisonlymoney] 03/10/2024 09:34

wally and that other idiot always claiming "genuine investor concerns". the lie couldn't be more blatant. wally has never been a kier investor. you've only ever been a troll, right wally?

i think wally must have put kie on the "buzz" board and the shares are getting attention. not what you intended, right wally?

[itisonlymoney] 03/10/2024 09:28

hugely undervalued right now. galliford try's results today are reassurance that isg was just bad management. the rest of the construction sector is continuing to increase profits.

[itisonlymoney] 03/10/2024 09:26

wally, ALL of what steady has said is true. and you nkow it. no one has been posting on here. it's been two or three posts a week practically. you show up, probably signalling the bounce back up, cos that seems to be your thing, like a good omen, but a bad smelling one, and suddenly its 20 posts a day again. steady is right. anyone can look. you got hammered bigtime trying to short kier.

the only reason it's managed to get into the 130s is the fallout from isg. as soon as davies reports that he's got all isg's schools and prisons contracts, the shares will take off again. keep posting if you want to ahve a chat about it, but anyone can see, you're always wrong.

[johnrxx99] 03/10/2024 09:18

Guys, get a room.

[wallywoo] 03/10/2024 09:11

None of which is true.


What is true is that your only defence against genuine investor concerns on the HUGE risks here is to launch a personal attack on the poster making them. The reason why paid rampers are needed here is because shareholders shoulder huge risk here for a return you can easily beat at the bank.

[stdyeddy] 03/10/2024 08:45

So prescient wolly -- how come you were shorting from 50p and giving us updates as it went to 63p on how you were increasing your short, and then the 80s, and then the 90s, by which time you were claiming to have a massive short and then when it suddenly went to 130p you fell silent. And then, after a couple of days said -- in the most pathetic little squeak I have ever seen on advfn -- 'I didn't lose any money'. Do you remember THAT?? YOU ARE THE MOST PATHETIC LYING LITTLE SCUMBAG I HAVE EVER ENCOUNTERED ON HERE. Just in case you were wondering.

[wallywoo] 03/10/2024 08:36

Kier were extremely lucky. I suspect the importance of construction to the UK economy ensured its survival. It could easily of gone bust. 850% more shares issued in 4 years will always mean this will be a poor investment. High risk is guaranteed here. Another cash problem is always just around the corner. This sector has not changed for investors for 40 years, just 1 mistake away from disaster.

[dope007] 03/10/2024 08:36

And margins are wafer thin so not something I'd invest in

[stdyeddy] 03/10/2024 08:31

More lies from you. Happy to see you fvck off. What you don't seem to realise is that your constant presence on here made kier investors state the bull case very clearly. You're nothing but a cvnt, and the very worst type of person on advfn, constantly lying for no good reason. An utter ar$ehole. Glad that you've visited so that I can remind you what a pr1ck you are.

[wallywoo] 03/10/2024 08:25

Lol, I remember when you said the share price will be 200p in 6 months in 2018!!! See you in another 6 years with a share price still a disappointment.


Paid share rampers are sooo funny. Just playing the greed card is the only way to encourage buyers. Shame it never works. This sector will always be poor. It is currently flying high (just look at mgns, bby who are the investment grade shares). But another disaster here is never far away. You encourage very few new pi's here for that reason.

[stdyeddy] 03/10/2024 08:18

Do you also remember telling everyone here that you would apologise if the shares reached £1? Do you remember that? And do you remember refusing to keep your word? Do you remember that too?

Do you remember telling everyone to sell at 57p and the shares just going up and up?

[stdyeddy] 03/10/2024 08:15

That's very funny wolly, because I remember you trolling here many times a day for years and eventually losing your shirt when your short blew up because the share price doubled. Also, it seems you lost money long on Interserve. And a ton more on Russian shares. And you are a shameless liar, talking sh1t here (and elsewhere) constantly.

Dividend is currently almost 4% and is likely to increase.
Btw, as far as I'm aware, there's nothing wrong with being interested in a company for years. And by any measure, the shares are well under-priced right now, the market having been spooked by ISG and the middle-east situation. Kier will be £3 a year from now.

[wallywoo] 03/10/2024 08:04

How many years have you been ramping this BB, Std? 6 years is it ??Lol, I remember the share price well when you started, around 120p per share. No one has made much here. This remains a high risk share with too many shares in issue and a low dividend. Why buy here? Your money will be much safer in the bank, with a higher return.

[stdyeddy] 03/10/2024 07:33

Some good numbers being reported by Galliford this morning. Profit up 40%. They still lag Kier in terms of margin and their business is half the size, but they are showing strong growth.

[itisonlymoney] 02/10/2024 14:52

probably a lot of schools also hoping that kier will take over ISG's schools contracts. quite a few are mid-project and now stalled.

[itisonlymoney] 02/10/2024 14:47

FY24 Highlights

· Revenue growth and improved profitability driving material deleveraging

o Revenue growth of 17% driven by strong operational delivery across divisions

o Adjusted operating profit increased 14% to £150.2m (FY23: £131.5m)

o Adjusted operating margin at 3.8%, ahead of the medium-term target of c.3.5%

o Adjusted basic EPS: 20.6p (FY23: 19.2p), up 7%

o Reported operating profit increased 27% to £103.1m (FY23: £81.5m)

o Free Cash Flow of £185.9m outperformed the prior year (FY23: £132.3m) with an operating free cash flow conversion of 144.5%

o Net cash of £167.2m, more than double the prior year-end (FY23: £64.1m)

o Average month-end net debt halved to £(116.1)m (FY23: £(232.1)m)

· High quality order book, increased 7% to £10.8bn (FY23: £10.1bn) providing significant visibility over FY25 and beyond

· Acquisition of Buckingham Group's rail assets fully integrated into the business and continues to perform ahead of the pre-acquisition plan

· Refinancing complete with RCF maturity profile to 2027 and Senior Notes to 2029

· Proposed final dividend of 3.48p per share, together with an interim dividend of 1.67p, giving a total of 5.15p for FY24

· New long-term sustainable growth plan announced following the successful delivery of the FY21 medium-term value creation plan

· Current trading in-line with Board expectations

[stutes] 02/10/2024 14:06

More turnover but profit described as roughly the same as last year - what might this say about margins going forward?

[stutes] 25/9/2024 07:02

I suggested there might be a supply fallout from ISG administration. What did the K employee say about it?

[stdyeddy] 24/9/2024 15:48

Kier is an obvious home for all of those MoJ prisons contracts that ISG had. I see Kier's turnover expanding by another 10% this year and possibly a lot more. I imagine we'll see news on this front fairly quickly to provide reassurance for a lot of stakeholders.

[stutes] 24/9/2024 15:45

Less competition should boost margin but the biggest client can still exert pressure on construction sector to keep margins tight.