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[4237_rides_again] 01/8/2009 13:29

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kusssb
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:29 am Post subject: GOSH & Monies lost
Forget Hardy, or should we? He opened a can of worms. Maybe he did get a loan' from Lawley for £5K, Ali got £6K for setting up the website. Cool in both cases. Chris (the webmaster as quoted now), got £40k for his pains, Rose and Cotter got thousands too, for what?

Many of you lost money, not only in the original Jus, but within the flawed CVA.

The company is defunct, the only people you can pursue for recompence are those involved with the CVA, and subsequent distributors of your money, Downs & Son, Calderbank etc...

I have followed this episode for some time, with regret for many, as I have LGB. Unlike LGB, where monies have to be extracted from the defendant, Jus/Think whoever, have an account with approx £300k.

Why is that not going to GOSH?
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gordonkidd
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 4:18 pm Post subject:
If thats true and the company does have £300k (or any other amount) then I agree, it should go to GOSH.

However I very much doubt hardy would have left a penny in there. Let alone £300k during all this time. Hardy would have had that in his back pocket on day 1.

[tundeolajide] 31/7/2009 09:18

ABarclayman

I asked you the question because you posted you are "impartial" and just passing time but your posts suggested otherwise.

You asked the question "what is your interest" My answer: Your question is too broad so kindly clarify what you would like to know.

[abarclayman] 30/7/2009 12:46

TundeOlajide I'm sure but thank you for your interest! What is your interest?
I'm particularly intrigued by all the posturing and inconsistent remarks of your former power of attorney!
It would seem, judging by past performance, Rambow has made an accurate statement in the last TSAG post! The others make for most facinating reading too and do seem highly accurate when reading the forums.
You can't deny Mr Hardy's acts are highly questionable to say the very least and the daily developments are most interesting indeed! Reading between the lines of course!

AB

Edit. I'm looking forward to reading the letter to the Jag committee, the draft is taking a very long time considering sometime ago it was being "swiftly" dealt with!

[4237_rides_again] 29/7/2009 12:16

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harry33
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject:
Mr H headless chicken or what!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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SimonT
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 8:41 pm Post subject:
Mr Hardy

It seems Cj wouldnt hold the documents for no reason , they must be needed as original evidence by the authorities. No surprise youre in a panic and using sick children as a red herring.

I wouldnt call perjury, deception and the like a "silly concern", I somehow doubt the court or police would either.

So your saying you cant say why you havent posted the London Court judgment against JAG (you say) or the transcript you said you posted months ago because you gave all these papers to CJ and didnt take copies? That sounds as believable as a self employed deceitful power of attorney telling the court on oath he destroyed all his back statements as soon as he got them.

Simon.
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MGH
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 9:15 pm Post subject:
"..needed by the authorities". That's a new one! He undertook to the Judge to copy them and return the originals.

As for the transcript of the Central London County Court, ask CJ where it is.

No answer on the Begbies "discrepancy"? wOnder why? I've been saving that one for a long time!

Look at the bank statements, payment dates etc and CJ's pleadings for more money and you will see exactly what was going on - Begbies weren't paid until end May '03!

[billy connolly] 29/7/2009 11:14

I hope the OR occasionally still has a butchers at this thread.

wOnder what she makes of some of the stuff posted on here?
Same as the Police I suspect.

[4237_rides_again] 29/7/2009 10:02

MGH
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Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:01 pm Post subject:
And by the way.......

How do you explain that Begbies were paid 23,500 (p43) at their request (p115) when the Turkish accounts show only 22,076 (p94)?

Page references are to the copy original JAG documents at
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No wonder even the Turks had to "qualify" the accounts that they couldn't verify professional fees.

Those "accounts" are a complete and total fabrication

[4237_rides_again] 28/7/2009 19:07

ABarclayman

Oh please Mr. Jones, do stop drivelling.

Where did I say the Court said I couldn't do anything about JAG? Where did the Court say it?

CJ and/or Downs(x2) and/or others are going to pay up to GOSH. They stole trust monies, and that is the effect/decision of the London County Court ruling.

[billy connolly] 28/7/2009 13:14

I suspect the only important & relevant 'smoke & mirrors' to those shafted original JAG members and JUS shareholders was connected with those misleading fund raising hustles.

If only we knew then what we know now.
And of course we should have known, or at least should have been told then.

I still can't get over CJ (Mr for & on behalf of JAG in 2006) having the nerve to present a case to the Police for false accounting pre JAG.......given the misappropriation and shambles of the various monies we contributed/donated during the JAG period itself. Okay CJ perhaps/arguably wasn't personally handling the money or the administration of the JAG funds, but he was Head Honcho and should have made himself fully aware of the serious accounting irregularities during his JAG 'watch' for 8 months.
Not to do so was negligent in the extreme IMHO.
But I guess as Hardy says - once the funds had already been plundered, pre 2/8/02, there was no going back.

[abarclayman] 28/7/2009 12:39

Mark Hardy you told us before you couldnt comment on Think Entertainment matters or the situation with creditors, as that was now the duty of the official receiver after the co was wound up! Also you said the court found you had no juridiction over JAG or what Messrs Downs had or had not done as the JAG accountants.

You are now contradicting yourself, not for the first time old chap!

Mambo5 comments of smoke and mirrors and the shareholders on Tsag dont seem to be falling for it!

AB

[billy connolly] 27/7/2009 18:50

.......and g'd night from me !!

[billy connolly] 27/7/2009 18:27

Mambo5 - 21 Jul'09 - 10:55 - 22953

"...... you know from tsag about Mark Hardy lying in court"

Mambo5 - 23 Jul'09 - 16:34 - 22962

"What facts and evidence are you rambling on about? why cant your boss or as CJ rightly calls him, your associate, help you? "

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Are you for real Mambo5? Obviously not.
You, not me, are the one making the allegations on here (predictably albeit as a mouthpiece for & on behalf of others) against Hardy of criminal activity (perjury etc).
All I (& some others) are regularly asking you for is to provide the facts & evidence to verify it. Or c&p the facts & evidence supplied by anyone else. Simples.
Hardy is hardly likely to help me in this matter for what must even to your limited intellect be obvious reasons.

I'm sorry you find me sad cause I gave you a courteous explanation as to why I wouldn't be in a position to respond to any further posts you might make on here. But I would do so on my return in 4/5 days whenever back on-line.

You, by contrast, avoid answering questions, and instead post drivel on a BB you claim few take any notice of, or read............. and I'm the sad one? Don't think so pal.

By the way, you calling Hardy my Boss is about as childish as your turkish mate Acelogic from CJ's site calling Hardy my boy-friend.......and as accurate as Jones calling me Hardy's associate to the courts. But there again you guys seem to rely on fantasy and deception over bare fact.

[4237_rides_again] 27/7/2009 13:29

C&P is for the benefit of those who don't want Onder tracking their IP address when anyone reads CJ's site.

Try reading what the High Court ruling was about. There has been no ruling on the merits of any damages claims by anyone against McLoughlin & Graham.

[mambo5] 27/7/2009 12:48

A lot of posting, cutting and pasting by you Mark Hardy! It seems michelinstar has a fair point, afterall if gartshore or acelogic acted like you, you'd be saying they were in a state of panic without a shadow of doubt!

Some posts by others i see referring to your purjury in court but, not surprisingly, no comment from you on your criminal activity. Only more smoke and mirrors! Like how you asked the receiver for a public examination but you earlier posted she suggested it. And your claim against KPMG which was thrown out by the High Court judge having read the judgement, after you tried to fool the court (but didnt get away with it) because of the injunction againt you, which you kept very quiet about on here! Wonder why!

What claim do you supposedly have now against KPMG? bearing in mind your claims have all been thrown out so far? Why havent you posted the claim form like youve done on your other failed claims in the past? More smoke and mirrors?

[4237_rides_again] 27/7/2009 09:26

1. KPMG admitted taking the escrow money and using it for their own enrichment. That equals normal and exemplary damages. Its down to the OR to claim for the companies and me to claim for myself.

2. Lawley has recently told me that there have been some sales of the Jellikins series. The deal was 10% of the gross sales to GOSH in perpetuity as you were all told at the time. I have no idea how much as he continues to fail to provide any accounting despite endless requests.

[abarclayman] 26/7/2009 19:05

Is that "sure fire certainty" like the open and shut legal case against Luke Johnson? And the cast iron case against KPMG and RBS?

re. "the amount Lawley owes", you told readers before he didn't owe anything.
Care to explain old chap?

AB

[4237_rides_again] 26/7/2009 18:00

golde

"keep going" - never in doubt

"we shall get there sometime" - soon

"we hope" - sure fire certainty