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[blusteradjuster] 13/12/2018 23:47

I’ve mentioned this to loony ideologue 7kiwi before (not that he wants to be reasoned with):

Give me billions of data-points, I’ll find thousands that confirm whatever I want to believe..

[blusteradjuster] 13/12/2018 23:45

Aleman,

Shall we add the Economist magazine to the conspiracy?

Screw the basic science (as you are), they’re only in it for the money*

*says the fossil-fuel-funded deniers..

[maxk] 13/12/2018 23:41

I think most agree .. it's a smokescreen!

Buy May and her deal is beyond repair, they really must get rid of her (and her controllers)

[pendragon2] 13/12/2018 22:38

7K - I agree.

[7kiwi] 13/12/2018 22:24

P.S.

The Irish border question, is I think the biggest red herring in history. We won't put up a physical border. Trusted trader schemes and spot checks away from the border from existing CCTV footage will be fine. It works now for policing different currencies, VAT and duty rates.

I understand the EU has already told Ireland that they won't force them to build a physical border in the event of a clean Brexit.

[7kiwi] 13/12/2018 22:20

I think it's a combination of two things.

1. Money. An indefinite arrangement will result in the extension period being required and thus more UK contributions over and above the £39bn.

2. Fear of UK competitiveness. The EU thinks that if we deregulate and make the UK more competitive, we will become more successful than EU nations. Whilst we are subject to EU rules and effectively inside the EU, we can't get rid of the red tape and can't strike trade deals.

Trouble is, we don't have anybody in actual power with the cajones to call their bluff.

[7kiwi] 13/12/2018 20:59

Don't mess with Aleman when he's done his research.

[aleman] 13/12/2018 19:36

blusteradjuster 13 Dec '18 - 11:47 - 70438 of 70450


Have just finished reading the latest Economist magazine - the number of articles about climate change (and the well-funded denial lobby) grows all the time.

There's always loads of scaremongering around climate conference time. Does anyone give any of it credence when people are trying to squeal loudest for more funding?

Ignore the constant "record" temperatures and "hottest years ever" - potentially distorted by urban sprawl and contentious downward adjustment to older temperatures and not supported well by some satellite-only temperature series - and just watch the ice. The Northwest passage did not open this summer and the Canadian Coastguard icebreakers struggled to get supply ships through to Inuits. At the same time the Northeast Passage/Northern Route only opened for 9 weeks after some Russian ports needed icebreakers to get shipments out through late ice, which also hampered oil platform needs. Hudson Bay freeze up started 2 weeks early and finished a week early. The Great Lakes started freezing 3 weeks early. The Baltic sea started freezing a week early as did the Caspian Sea. Northern Hemisphere snow extent looks like continuing its increasing trend after some record-breaking snows in Canada and the US recently, which saw the highest seasonal extent for 50 years. Houston had its earliest snow ever recorde on Nov 14th by 10 days! (I lived there 6 years and never saw any snow.)

Freeze up in lakes and shallower seas appears to be getting earlier again. Deep areas of sea remain warm - although apparently past peaks of a decade ago - and so this continues to keep midwinter ice extent at subdued levels. This trend would be consistent with cooling predictions of solar scientists after a weak cycle last time and predictions of a longer pause until the next cycle picks up again.











Great Lakes ice coverage for week ending 11/12 since 1980



Hudson Bay ice cover

[grannyboy] 13/12/2018 16:53

Yes TaurusTheBear, it's a gravy train for those who toe the eu line...

Neil Kinnock and family did, and are still doing, very well out of serving their masters over the years..

[freddie ferret] 13/12/2018 16:50

The ballot was secret.
Many on the payroll will have voted her down.

According to the RICS house prices dropped 1% last month.

Looking at the centre pages of todays Telegraph I have never read anything like it.
I do not believe May will survive long, still should be good for UKIP.

The jury has been out for some time now in the Craig Mackinlay trial here is the latest. Spot the mistake.

[taurusthebear] 13/12/2018 16:49

G'boy - despised former Prime Ministers have a habit of securing sinecures in Brussels, and no doubt May sees herself also jumping on the gravy train in due course. :0)

[grannyboy] 13/12/2018 15:41

Yes, to be honest, my question was rhetorical, because I knew they were still building new plants...So much for them being 'green' ehh!!!

[pendragon2] 13/12/2018 15:36

These are the planned coal powered stations, not all of which will necessarily be built:

[pendragon2] 13/12/2018 15:15

Germany has a huge energy problem, no natural resources, so old nuclear stations have had their licences extended and has been very slow to shut the dirty coal generators.

Despite the impression of greenness, windmills are for export.

Take a look here for former east germany:


then here:
hxxps://www.pro-lausitz.de/index.php/Pro_Lausitz.html

In another region, North Rhein Westfalia - RWE produce about 100million tonnes of brown coal a year: see here:
hxxps://www1.wdr.de/nachrichten/braunkohle-nrw-faq-100.html

sorry i can't translate, but you'll get the drift.

[grannyboy] 13/12/2018 15:11

I can't believe that when May was been interviewed from brussels at dinnertime, she described the gangsters as 'colleagues' ....

No wonder her negotiations have been a total disaster from the off...

[grannyboy] 13/12/2018 14:52

Are they still building coal fired power stations in Germany?...

[grannyboy] 13/12/2018 14:47

Well if you take the line of 'if you took away those on the government's payroll, then the % of those voting for May would have been a lot closer to those who wanted May to go'...

And some of those 'supporting' May could have done so, not in because they do, but because they wanted to get back at the true Brexiters, like the ERG, and especially their nemesis JRM, who usually puts them to shame when it comes to democracy...

[pendragon2] 13/12/2018 12:53

brucie - after the recent climate conference in Poland, the Germans suddenly woke up to the realisation that they are no longer leading on environmental policy, but in the position of laggards, especially due to continued use of brown coal and exhaust emissions from German cars.

Re: Governments under EU influence - have you read about the Italian climbdown this morning?

And comments saying it is 'too soon to tell' whether the Macron tax giveaways will also be knocked on the head.

I'm also mindful of the opposite kind of situation, in particular when speculators pushed sterling and Kohl/Mitterand refused to support the pound when asked to buy UK bonds, which led to Britain leaving the pre-Euro currency arrangement and caused all kinds of damage, as I'm sure you remember.

It is issues like these over decades, hitting one country after another that wore away my expectations of the EU as a progressive project.

[brucie5] 13/12/2018 11:50

Jailbird: that's an interesting speculation. The EU also have to weigh up the impact of No Deal, though they have said there is nothing further to offer. I think she's playing some dangerous brinkmanship with the timetable, but probably in the belief that that is what is required to squeeze whatever she can, however late. If she causes it to go over the edge, she will be held responsible, and the Brexiteers, to be sure, will run a mile from taking any blame themselves. One thing for sure: like the famously incompetent Alistair Grayling on the railways: it is never their fault; always someone else's.

Bluster: how true. That's why this issue for me is much larger than we might think. In a world of divide and rule, who will find it easier to rule, and what interests will they be serving? Not humanity's.

[jailbird] 13/12/2018 11:43

Brucie,

Just chatting at work...one plausible and interesting view

She will get her concessions...vote will get through as crashing out is not an option

Government gets 2 years transition to try to agree some sort of deal...
if all fails leave on WTO ( be prepared)

This could work out in UK's favour....in 2 years what will the state of the global or UK economies be?..A deal may well be good for all parties then

[blusteradjuster] 13/12/2018 11:41

Hmm, have wondered for a while whether no deal was the quiet intention all along..


“The Editorial in Britain's largest circulation newspaper says it all!

'Get us ready for No Deal now - THE gravest error the Tories could now make would be failing to prepare us fully to leave the EU with no deal in just over 15 weeks’ time.”

[brucie5] 13/12/2018 11:23

She's certainly tenacious, and difficult to winkle out. As ERG has proved incompetent in attempting to do so. Now JRM says that she should simply resign, having won the vote. Has he ever thought himself of doing so?