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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Jtc Plc LSE:JTC London Ordinary Share JE00BF4X3P53 ORD GBP0.01
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  1.50 0.18% 821.00 823.50 825.00 827.00 810.00 810.00 84,580 16:35:08
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Unit Inv Tr, Closed-end Mgmt 200.08M 34.71M 0.2097 39.34 1.37B
Jtc Plc is listed in the Unit Inv Tr, Closed-end Mgmt sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker JTC. The last closing price for Jtc was 819.50p. Over the last year, Jtc shares have traded in a share price range of 623.50p to 838.50p.

Jtc currently has 165,521,678 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Jtc is £1.37 billion. Jtc has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 39.34.

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08/12/2018
13:07
I think it's best not to pigeon-hole any widely supported view by tainting it with minority extremism. As for France, that seems far from just extremists, Macron being one of the most unpopular leaders in post-revolution history.

The problem with a ref2 is that I've seen all obvious options discounted. No-deal - irresponsible; May's deal (presumably) voted down by Parliament so the plebs don't get a look in; Remain - invalidated in 2016 but we don't elect a PM for life and referendums shouldn't be for ever either.

So kick May out, if she doesn't stand down, and re-negotiate getting rid of the backstop. Assuming, of course, that unlike ref1 and Trump, she doesn't shock everone and win the vote c/o scared, hypocritical MPs.

March 29 looks too soon. Can down the road.

Far from ideal, but job done... :0)

taurusthebear
08/12/2018
12:42
PENDRAGON2
8 Dec '18 - 11:04 - 70329 of 70330
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If the May deal is rejected by Parliament next week, it surely cannot be revived in the context of a referendum.

A referendum requires an act of Parliament and last time included months of campaigning after months of debate about the questions to be asked. In relation to the current deadline, this is all completely impractical.
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Pen: disagree. It's all entirely practical. They just have to delay article 50, which Parliament can do.

My feeling is that it's now, and has been for some time, no longer a matter of what I/you think SHOULD be done. There is a political crisis which, should it not be resolvable in Parliament, or by a GE, can only be resolved by consulting the people again. Your talk of WTO etc. is entirely impractical, with respect, unless Parliament wishes it. And while I'm not totally discounting the risk of no-deal Brexit (a disaster) there is minimal appetite for it in Parliament. And I think a lot of MPs are increasingly assertive of the interests, as they see it, of the country, rather than obeying an increasingly obscure and self-defeating fatwa, made in 2016 without any clear definition of what it meant.


The main obstacle, I believe, to the the triggering (by all means necessary) of a second vote, is the fear or many that the Right will use violence, and London will become like Paris.

brucie5
08/12/2018
11:42
Mount

Did you vote for Theresa May in the last election and if there was another election would you vote for her again,

chestnuts
08/12/2018
11:04
If the May deal is rejected by Parliament next week, it surely cannot be revived in the context of a referendum.

A referendum requires an act of Parliament and last time included months of campaigning after months of debate about the questions to be asked. In relation to the current deadline, this is all completely impractical.

With neither the conservatives nor labour having any clear Party policy enabling voters to align themselves with one party or the other, (vote blaablaa, or vote waffle), a general election is unlikely to clear the air either, (except to confirm the Conservative's inepitudes and lose them dozens of seats - turkeys/christmas). The likelyhood of a poorly hung Parliament with a wobbly coalition cobbled together between Labour and various nationalists, maybe libdems too, wouldn't be an attractive option for Labour, they would just be where May is now.

So, I suspect there are only two realistic alternatives.

1. Either the WTO arrangement, best done if the UK unilaterally declares itself import tariff free (gathering money via VAT), but with custom controls to check cargoes are legit, which happens inside the single market anyway - the German Zollamt patrol the motorways looking for smugglers - nothing unusual about that.

2. The EU drop the backstop and there is a transition period in which to cobble together a longer term trading arrangement reviewed as most of them are anyway every few years.

Given the UK government ineptitude factor, I suspect option one might work best, as they could start working on a long term trade deal without the deadlines.

If the EU want to delay imports for reasons of paperwork and choke their ports and airports, so be it. UK exporters will just start using non-EU ports and lorries into EU, therefore choking even more points of entry.

pendragon2
08/12/2018
05:46
I agree there shouldn't be a second referendum. But if there were, there would be the big question of whether Remain should be an option, and therefore imply the betrayal of ref1, purely because of an inept (and pro-Remain) PM.

Ideally we'll just have a (managed) crash-out, sort out the problems, and be done with the EU, who have just as much to lose as the UK.

Whilst I can understand some people blaming Cameron for misjudging the result of his referendum, I don't understand how they conveniently fail to see the bigger democratic picture.

taurusthebear
08/12/2018
01:59
During the 41 years since 1975, the UK has been taken into a political EU without any democratic discussion, never mind the electoral consultation of the populace. Until 2016, the political establishment had prevented every one in the country under the age of 58 from having a say on the continued loss of our sovereignty to the totally undemocratic EU.

Since 1975 there has been a continuous and deliberate attempt to deceive and trap us; we had the Lisbon treaty pushed through the same way when it had clear constitutional implications. The highly secretive and hugely disingenuous Political EU wants a Federal Europe; power ceded to Brussels, the destruction of Nation State democracy and European National identity.

On 29 March 2019 the UK automatically comes under WTO rules - we do not have to join we are already a member. We presented our draft schedules last July which is all that is required to trade, since the schedules do not have to be signed off.

The WTO does not require its members to secure their borders.

Post the Referendum result to leave the EU, investment (FDI) in the UK has increased by £133 bn while in Germany the EU's largest economy it has increased by a minuscule £5.5bn.

As of the 29 March 2019 we will get preferential trade access to over 2.4 bn consumers in ultra high growth economies & if we accept the invitation to join the TPP it will be around 3 bn consumers. This makes the ultra low growth EU's circa 430 million population post Brexit look positively tiny by comparison.

Of course, also on 29 March 2019 the EU (which most referendum losers now consider a single nation) will lose 16-20% of its GDP in the blink of an eye. What nation could take a hit like that and not hurt? Not forgetting they will be in recession as well with the QE money tap turned off & their currency no longer artificially protected.

Also, the EU will need to present new draft schedule’s to the WTO - it would only take one objection to stop them being signed off. NZ & the USA have already raised serious objections to them.

With the EU on the brink of entering another recession totally unprepared, France on fire, German politics in complete disarray, Italy in open revolt of the EU and its banks on the brink of default, the Southern Nations entering their second decade of German enforced impoverishment and 50% youth unemployment, Poland and Hungary openly thumbing their nose at the EU Commission by blocking its 'sanctions' and the EZ banks yet to commence restructuring more than a decade after the financial crash - who in their right mind would want to join such a self serving, undemocratic, hugely corrupt organisation run by an unelected commission of mostly ex-communists? Other than that is, Eastern European basket case economies looking for huge cash handouts and high paying 'non-jobs' for its self serving political elite.

mount teide
07/12/2018
18:52
Freddie, I take it you're a member of Ukip since you seem well informed. I don't damn every Ukiper as we have some friends who prereferendum voted that way. Lovely people, but I don't talk politics with them. But they're certainly not sympathetic to EDL, which is basically Tommy Robinson's constituency.
brucie5
07/12/2018
17:42
Worth commenting that in opinion polls UKIP has risen from 1-2% at the worst a short while after the referendum and May was haha going to do a Brexit to the most recent I have seen was a Mori NOP (if I remember right) putting UKIP at at 7-8%.
Again membership has been rising, the rises seem to be related to May putting her foot in it rather than to right wingers joining.
The low was around 18,000 the last I heard a while back was 23,600 however I know one week since when 400 new members joined.
It will be interesting to see how things pan out.

freddie ferret
07/12/2018
17:24
There is a lot of rubbish being talked about UKIP and the "far right". Basically UKIP is a bit like the US.

You have the President he is limited in what he can do by, the Constitution, the Senate, the House of Representatives and lastly the Supreme Court.

In UKIP you have the party leader, he is limited in what he can do by the Constitution, The National Executive Committee (NEC), The Rule Book and lastly the Membership.

Re Tommy Robinson, he cannot join UKIP because he was a member of an organisation (EDL) that is a prescribed organisation under the Constitution and the Rule Book.
The NEC has recently decided that Gerard Batten cannot have TR as an advisor and call him such since that is also not allowed if he has been a member of a prescribed organisation.
In addition at the EGM in Birmingham Gerard Batten stated that he would serve as leader for a period of one year to stabilise the party after the shambles (particularly financially) that Nigel left it in when he quit the leadership.
FWIIW that year is up in March when as I understand it there will be a leadership election. Gerard could put himself forward again if he wishes however Nigel will not be able to as he has handed in his membership.
Re supposedly entreyism into the party by far right elements, I have not seen this at branch level though I only know a southern England branch possibly things are different up north.

There is a strong suspicion that Gerard has engineered the current situation to encourage his enemies to leave the party (which they obligingly seem to be doing).
Like Nigel, Gerard is a MEP however they have never got on. They were both members of UKIP from the '90s onward. Both have their supporters and both have their enemies.
Some people suggest that by courting TR Batten is ridding the party of some of the Nigel supporters and when it is convienient Gerard will drop TR.

Basically the party has considerable defences against far right infiltration with considerable membership vetting, this was a fetish built up by Nigel. There can always be exceptions that prove the rule however.

I could go into considerable detail about how the defences UKIP has against subversion work however I will spare you and say that any leader can only change things like the NEC, the Constitution or the Rule book very slowly, they are interlocked so a change to one can only be done with the agreement of the others (it is also bloody complicated).

freddie ferret
07/12/2018
16:45
brucie - the far right and their nationalist fantasies were around when the first referendum on the EU was run back in 1975. They don't go away, they just make more noise from time to time.

Sadly that kind of nonsense had made a sensible debate about the EU almost impossible in the Brexit context. Cameron should really hang his head in shame at the damage his ploy has created, because no-one had anticipated what Brexit might amount to. I say that as someone who would like the UK out of the EU for its own good.

In Germany we have the AfD who play the same game as the British UKIPers/far right and are now running neck and neck with the SPD and Greens, effectively creating a six party situation in regional and national elections, CDU/CSU (timid employee party), SPD (local authority employees), Greens (younger careerists), FDP (the accountants' and small business careerists party), Linke (old socialists and trades unions) and the AfD (rancid and bilious folk)and their extraparliamentary allies Pegida (violent hate), with the very real possibility that in the next election, no two parties could form a coalition, never mind the prospect of a single party government.

In the European Parliament, the range of Nasty Parties now includes French National Front, Dutch 'Freedom Party', AfD Germany, Italy (take your pick) NOrthern League/5star, Greece Golden Dawn, Poland Government party, Hungary Government, Czech Rep government - and probably others I have missed. These folk are no longer a fringe element.

Perhaps it hasn't sunk in but the Hungarians have forced the Central European University under Michael Ignatief (former tv culture vulture/academic and Canadian politician) to decamp from Budapest to Vienna, citing anti-Soros sentiments as the reason. I find that shocking. Reminds me of the book burning business in 1930's Berlin.

Enjoy the weekend.

pendragon2
07/12/2018
14:47
7Kiwi
7 Dec '18 - 13:51 - 70320 of 70320
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Any 2nd Ref would be fraught with danger.

In the meantime, the UK should step up No Deal planning and preparation to a 'war' footing.
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How odd. You see a second democratic People's vote as being 'fraught with danger' but are perfectly cool about preparing the country to go on a war footing.

Am I only the only one who questions the logic of this?

brucie5
07/12/2018
13:51
Any 2nd Ref would be fraught with danger.

But if it were to happen, it should be

May's deal versus (Managed) No Deal.

In the meantime, the UK should step up No Deal planning and preparation to a 'war' footing. This should include an offer of no tariff/no quota/no friction trade with the EU, and a promise to reciprocate any tariffs or friction the EU wants to impose. It's only serious no deal preparation that will persuade the EU to come back to the table and manage the exit.

7kiwi
07/12/2018
07:25
MPS supporting TM's deal do so by and large to avoid civil war, an honourable impulse, but such is the fear of the Right, and the stupidity and shortsightedness of the brexit project. look at the direction taken recently by Ukip and ask yourself if those same elements weren't already there on the edges of the Brexit vote. Boris and others have played a very dangerous game.
brucie5
07/12/2018
07:25
MPS supporting TM's deal do so by and large to avoid civil war, an honourable impulse, but such is the fear of the Right, and the stupidity and shortsightedness of the brexit project. look at the direction taken recently by Ukip and ask yourself if those same elements weren't already there on the edges of the Brexit vote. Boris and others have played a very dangerous game.
brucie5
07/12/2018
07:19
No, you can do transferably. Two sets of options.

R4 talking about the stockpiling of medicines, it's actually happening, against a hard brexit. Now why wasn't that on the brexit bus?

To assert that peeps were given sufficient information about the consequences of brexit in 2016 is a laughable proposition. He notion therefore that a second referendum is undemocratic is simply to live in fear and of the violence of the Right.

700k converged on London for the people's vote- unprecedented, and totally peaceful. Says something about the qualities of the respective sides. At the fringes.

brucie5
07/12/2018
06:59
The 3-way referendum as proposed, splits the Leave vote, hardly surprising it has support from JoJo, Soubry and other Remainers.
edmondj
07/12/2018
06:45
Supposing the ref went for 'no deal' and the EU immediately came back with a better offer than previous, how do you accommodate that? The people have said no deal - parliament just cant override that. A referendum is a can of worms. Mays agreement will fail on the vote in Parliament (or maybe before) and the EU will reopen talks.
fireplace22
07/12/2018
04:15
As Jo Johnson said, the obvious (and only logical) ref2 options are: remain, May's deal and no-deal, with a 1-2 preference. It's not exactly rocket science. I am sick and tired of those trying to sideline a no-deal option when May herself said it was better than a bad deal. Those who are afraid of change should live their lives in bed. PUT IT TO THE PEOPLE, or face British Gilets Jaunes. :0)
taurusthebear
06/12/2018
17:51
Pendragon,

Although I think there's growth long term I think we'll see take off in 2019. Every single polymer that's been tested has shown improvements at the customers from common plastics to rubber (tyres/belts)to concrete. They're in NDA's non exclusive with numerous world major companies.
The one that is potentially very large is AECOM $18Bn sales. The collaborations have gone through the lab phases and have been in development for some time and no problems have appeared. AECOM have just taken material to submit products for ISO approval. AECOM have demonstrated 3-D printing of polymers /concrete. Their Chinese partner in 3-D printing is Winsun. On the link below you'll see a very large house 11,000m2 3-D printed and constructed-

Global first 3D printing hardcover villa only needs 1 day, 3 workers, 1 crane, which is finished to install within 3 days. A integration printing of wall and internal decoration makes it energy-saving, environmental and safe.

hxxp://www.winsun3d.com/En/Product/pro_inner_5/id/106

serratia
06/12/2018
17:10
PENDDRAGON, think you are looking at the wrong company..TOOP provides broadband and other telecommunications to small businesses, using their Merlin platform..

If you go on Toople.com - Cheaper thread, there are listed of interviews and presentaions..

CEO is ex Talk Talk.

grannyboy
06/12/2018
16:52
granny - internet of things via 5g will be interesting, but at 1,000,000 connections per square kilometre, I suspect it will be too limited. That is only 1 connection per square metre and in a building 20 floors high, there are going to be huge numbers of devices all hoping to connect.

Anyone who can increase that capacity will be a winner, but not sure about small providers unless they are profoundly specialist.

pendragon2
06/12/2018
16:48
hi serr, ltns, I do have a few vrs, hoping for the very long term. granny - I'll take a look at toop, thanks to you both.
pendragon2
06/12/2018
15:44
Toople(TOOP) could be one to do some research on..
grannyboy
06/12/2018
13:59
Pendragon,

You could investigate VRS. Any questions just ask.

serratia
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