Itaconix Share Discussion Threads

[1liam] 08/9/2021 08:48

Purchaseatthetop, got caught out and called out, but like any scammer avoids the questions.

[purchaseatthetop] 07/9/2021 18:00

Dark Star is a uni favourite of mine. Funny cigarettes and King Crimson. And Dark Star. And Spirit. Frank Zappa as well.

[shieldbug] 07/9/2021 16:50

Dark Star was a great (low budget) film. Four dysfunctional blokes in a spaceship blowing up unstable planets. They all go up when the "intelligent" bomb stuck in the bomb bay, refuses to abort the count down. Oh and there is an alien that is patently a painted beach ball.

Really guys its a blast.

Not sure where in this universe patents held correlate to revenue though? Even funnier than the film.

[dougerboy] 06/9/2021 15:27

Doc, I would stop looking in the morning mirror then, if I were you. Probably not a pretty sight!

[dr darkstar] 06/9/2021 10:38

Looking very weak again this morning ...

[dougerboy] 06/9/2021 08:33

That will be interesting to see patt. I suspect that JS will be looking at non-China (US/Europe) sources also, given the global logistics difficulties affecting many industries.

[purchaseatthetop] 06/9/2021 07:19

dougherboy.....I have found a US import export database with a free trial. I can used one of my companies as the registration and am waiting confirmation from the database company of the exact terms of the free trial. When I have the data I will develop it and bring it here. Hopefully not too long. Thanks for the nod. PATT

[purchaseatthetop] 05/9/2021 19:03

Cheers dougherboy....I will have a look and see if they do trial periods and then time my registration. We have I think achieved quite a lot this weekend and it leaves a very satisfying feeling. I get a feeling that we will hear quite a lot that pleases us for the rest of 2021. But who knows.

[dougerboy] 05/9/2021 15:39

Great sleuthing work guys. Nice to have that going again. I can tell you patt, there are some websites that will provide US Customs Import data - but to get FULL details, you need to pay.

[purchaseatthetop] 05/9/2021 15:28

thordon....I would love to produce a chart showing monthly and cumulative acid deliveries starting beginning of Jan 2019. That share and gradient of the chart would give us great insight.
where can I access the data or can you download it and email it to me and I will develop and share it.
Thats the kind of data I love.
PATT

[thordon] 05/9/2021 15:21

That's 21.8 Tons per 19800 KGS

Would like to compare 2020 figures if had time

[thordon] 05/9/2021 15:18

Not worried at all the value will increase in time , the research is also makes it interesting as we found out the secrets we are not being told.

Below from AJP80

Hi All
Been doing a bit of digging on the import of Itaconix acid into the USA this year and have come up with the following, do not think that these are all our shipments, but demonstrates that the deliveries are getting through (JPAC TRADING is our handling agent). last updated in June, so there have been more shipments since then.

PRODUCT IMPORTER SUPPLIER ARRIVAL DATE Weight

ITACONIC ACID, 99.5%MIN JPAC TRADING, LTD QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-06-04 CHINA 19800 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5MIN HTS JPAC TRADING, LTD QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-05-26 CHINA 19800 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5MIN HTS JPAC TRADING, LTD QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-05-26 CHINA 19800 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5%MIN JPAC TRADING, LTD QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-04-04 CHINA 19800 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5%MIN JPAC TRADING, LTD QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-04-04 CHINA 19800 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5%MIN JPAC TRADING QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-03-28 CHINA 39600 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5%MIN JPAC TRADING QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-03-23 CHINA 39600 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5%MIN JPAC TRADING, LTD QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-03-05 CHINA 19800 KGS
ITACONIC ACID, 99.5%MIN JPAC TRADING QINGDAO KEHAI BIOCHEMISTRY CO.,LTD 2021-02-13 CHINA 37580 KGS

[purchaseatthetop] 05/9/2021 13:38

thordon...the holder who bought in with IP Group will not be disclosed as below the 3% limit and also they want secrecy. We may find out one day. However at least the 12.1p II buy now makes some sense. Things are happening that we were unaware of and the company did not make us aware of. Even though telling us would have rapidly increased the share price.

So...why not? Clearly NDA's and that itself is excellent. Vastly oversold and though it has been great fun for the ITX bashers and quite uncomfortable for all of us, we can see the way forwards.

[thordon] 05/9/2021 13:06

There's been no update on shareholders list , still shows IP with less shares then actual.
Can only guess on purpose as simple wall street give you details of holders as low as 0.35%
Anyway been a good weekend , shame not in 4 weeks time as have funds coming but then that's life.
At buying at 1.7p not going to moan about it.
Had been searching for the holder but no luck

[purchaseatthetop] 05/9/2021 12:17

I was mulling this during my morning walk. Back to the II placing of June at 12.1p. I would not be surprised at all if the other investor along with IG Groups £250k was the company with whom ITX have developed this new product.

I am heavily invested as well in ENET and they got a few million from 5G Innovation Leaders Fund via a subscription to assist them developing the IP for Tarana Wireless (no proof but it pretty clear). Their customers ensure that the IP is completed for their products by actually investing in the company.

OK...this is simply me musing but this completely hidden (until Sherlock PATT got his magnifying glass out) new product suggests that a new brand launch is close with a potentially revolutionary type of pod and the strategic partner for this product would have a great interest in ensuring that ITX has the funding to deliver the product.

Hopefully this is maybe close to what is happening. If it is it would change our fortunes hugely.

[thordon] 05/9/2021 11:49

Hi

Make that two appications , would appear designed for client as both the same but with different slight make up.

US
17248705

View Dossierfor application id 17248705

1) ITACONIX CORP
Copolymer Formulations of Poly (itaconic acid-co-2-acrylamido-2-methylpropane sulfonic acid) For Dishwasher Detergent Compositions 02/03/2021
US 17248705
US 62970500
Click to view publication numberUS 20210238503 A1You will be redirected to external web page
08/05/2021
Expand US
PCT/US21/70122

View Dossierfor application id PCT/US21/70122

1) ITACONIX CORP
COPOLYMER FORMULATIONS OF POLY (ITACONIC ACID-CO-2-ACRYLAMIDO-2-METHYLPROPANE SULFONIC ACID) FOR DISHWASHER DETERGENT COMPOSITIONS 02/03/2021
US 62970500
Click to view publication numberWO 2021159146 A1You will be redirected to external web page
08/12/2021

[purchaseatthetop] 05/9/2021 06:37

Thordon....my Sunday conclusion is that we will have a major brand releasing a much smaller dishwasher pod unit emphasising the still superior washing performance, phosphate free and green credentials.

[thordon] 04/9/2021 20:17

Need the CAD number taking time checking formulations , if any on the market using the new formulation.
The main point above "No phosphates" the rest you say is a bonus

[purchaseatthetop] 04/9/2021 19:52

Reading the patent details I missed out the most important aspect:

"[0005] Accordingly, a need remains to provide dishwasher compositions with a polymeric ingredient that can rely primarily or only upon the copolymer of poly(itaconic acid-co-2-acrylamido-2-methypropane sulfonic acid) and which dishwasher composition is also of a relatively reduced weight as compared to more typical dishwasher formulations currently utilized for domestic type dishwasher applications."

This IS THE KILLER IP.

ITX have it all here. Less volume for pod. Less production cost. No phosphates. Green.

[purchaseatthetop] 04/9/2021 19:35

Thanks thordon. Can you sense check my excitement. If I were in ITX position and in particular JS I would keep my head down and wait till I could return with a bang. This new patent is just out and might be the killer IP. The spec listing ticks all the boxes for basically clearing away all the competition.

[thordon] 04/9/2021 19:28

Then that's a game changer , i let LSE know
Getting excited but as always need to research , the formula looks the same as Fairy Platinum which is new but need to double check.

[purchaseatthetop] 04/9/2021 19:19

Thordon....it is not that one. It is a completely new one as far as I can see that has never been raised. The one you quote is the scaling patent. I think this new one is really exciting as it is clearly a step change improvement that needed patenting. If you can deliver green technology for mass producers and SAVE them money you break all the barriers.

[thordon] 04/9/2021 19:14

As a note we need to get back to talking about ITX and our research.

[thordon] 04/9/2021 19:11

It may be this one below that AJP80 found but the dates do not match if not that's 2 IP now in august 2021
Remember you can file a new IP but takes years to grant ( still protected but in case its questioned )

Decarboxylation and amidation of polyitaconic acid polymers
Patent number: 10738139
Abstract: The present invention is directed at the decarboxylation and amidation of polyitaconic acid polymers. The polymers formed have useful dispersion properties and are suitable for use in the prevention of scaling.
Type: Grant
Filed: December 18, 2018
Date of Patent: August 11, 2020
Assignee: Itaconix Corporation
Inventors: Yvon Durant, Bo Jiang, Melanie Hughes, Timothy Mills

[purchaseatthetop] 04/9/2021 18:22

thordon....were you aware of this new patent?