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[sentimentrules] 17/9/2019 18:12

Doesnt need a atory fitting to it

Market has seen it as a dog. Treated it as such.

So the question is simple. Still a dog? I think yes

I'd love if it was a buy... great low value. Less risk than shorting low..

Alas the risk is still buy side..

[sentimentrules] 17/9/2019 18:10

My words are the same as anyone elses...forecasting :)

[wigwammer] 17/9/2019 18:09

Yet you didn't predict any of it. You are just here, after the event, fitting a story to it (or in your case a series of random words and noises). :)

[sentimentrules] 17/9/2019 17:48

One thing has not been random.. .the slaughter of optimistic bulls at every low for four years :)

[wigwammer] 17/9/2019 17:34

As always... 37p, 35p, 33p too.Random words :)

[sentimentrules] 17/9/2019 17:31

I was right here as always :)... questioning it's weakness below 50p

[wigwammer] 17/9/2019 17:28

Where were the bears at 46p? Shhhhh... :)

[monte1] 17/9/2019 17:00

#1922

... whilst, of course, the bulls can clearly foretell the future and back it up with unsubstantiated yarns of doe-eyed puppy dogs and fluffy pink clouds.

Only on a freebb eh?

[sentimentrules] 17/9/2019 16:59

Falls a Bit?

Circa 90% down in 3 years.

Just strong bulls booking some profit loooool

Anything to say to the bulls at high of 2015? Many here. Maybe the chart just fitted :)

[wigwammer] 17/9/2019 16:54

Shares fall a bit and the scare stories - backed up with no fact whatsoever - begin to emerge again. The bears fit the story to the chart after the event. They predict nothing :)

[williamcooper104] 17/9/2019 16:40

Think it's that if you wanted to get 65 against a shopping centre in today's market you would struggle Senior bank debt likely to top out at c50 The mezz top up would be v expensive

[zccax77] 17/9/2019 16:30

No there is not. But I have seen pe structured deals where the mezzanine layers above the senior debt have eye watering rates of interest.

[zccax77] 17/9/2019 16:07

What I have noticed is that there might not be any Intu related news but segment news which drives the price here. For example if there is a fire sale of a shopping center somewhere by someone this then indirectly impacts Intu.

[zccax77] 17/9/2019 16:02

The thing with these cmbss is that the interest rate shoots up when ltv goes above 65%. Hence why Intu are in the gutter.

[zccax77] 17/9/2019 15:59

Sbbx1 how many times have you ridden this donkey up and down.

[sbb1x] 17/9/2019 15:30

Let the gap at 36p to close then take it from there

[williamcooper104] 17/9/2019 15:26

The DECO 2019-RAM DAC is the securitisation of a new loan by the German bank made following the sale of a 50% stake in the shopping centre to Cale Street Investments for £186.3m earlier this year.The loan-to-value ratio is 42.7%.

[knowing] 17/9/2019 15:23

Jak only this but can't get the full article

[sbb1x] 17/9/2019 15:21

Gap to fill at 36p on 9th September

[sbb1x] 17/9/2019 15:17

Market Mafia in action