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[npp62] 01/3/2020 16:28

Absolute horse-sh%^#

[1 nhs] 01/3/2020 16:20

No bank can survive what’s hitting you in the face.

Defaults will spread at the same speed as the virus.

Trust will be gone.

Put in a simple way : 3/4 of the worlds population will be off work for up to 18 months, producing nothing

[m1k3y1] 01/3/2020 16:15

Thank you
So, do you ownj shares in IAG or just trade options etc ?

[1 nhs] 01/3/2020 16:14

“ham.....what exactly are you hoping to achieve by these continual negative posts.
Convincing others to sell their shareholding ?
Proving that you are a great share trader ?
Maybe that you can foretell the future or just that you wish to be proved right ?
Other than the above, I really don't understand your motive.”


Investors have not understood the enormity of the situation.

This airline is going bust because it’s business model is finished.

It unfortunately has not yet sunk in

We are in a depression

[hamhamham1] 01/3/2020 16:08

Markets change and evolve through cycles, if a market has been bear for a while then I look to a reason for it to come out, if it has been bull for a while then a look to a reason for it to come out as well.
It will do both, thats guaranteed and I am looking at reasons for the latter with where this bull market is.
If this forum is just to discuss the guaranteed share price increase then it's never wise to listen to just side.

[m1k3y1] 01/3/2020 16:01

hamm.....I didn't ask you not to post, just answer the question .
I am trying to understand your motive.

Mine is to support the business I have my money invested in but I do not understand yours.

[hamhamham1] 01/3/2020 15:59

Ok, I won't post anymore, everything is great, 700p by April.
Enjoy your guaranteed ride straight up.
Bull market forever.
Bye :)

[m1k3y1] 01/3/2020 15:54

ham.....what exactly are you hoping to achieve by these continual negative posts.
Convincing others to sell their shareholding ?
Proving that you are a great share trader ?
Maybe that you can foretell the future or just that you wish to be proved right ?
Other than the above, I really don't understand your motive.

[1 nhs] 01/3/2020 15:30

Please see my previous posts.



The chance of a world no fly zone has jumped to 80/20 within 2 weeks.

[hamhamham1] 01/3/2020 15:25

Knife. Falling. Catch.
There is no reason for the markets to recover or even stop falling until there is a path to real resolution for coronavirus.
And in the meanwhile, no news certainly isn't good news.
It's all about sentiment (and these markets are spooked witless)


Those Asian airlines gonna feel it most first.

[wilc42] 01/3/2020 15:16

If it sinks tomorrow. Tuesday. Got to make and stand at some time. Getting the bottom will be a stroke of genius, but the share price will return to 6:50. So winner

[hamhamham1] 01/3/2020 15:03

It (the ftse100 eg) entered the bull run in 2009. It will maintain the bull market status until it has dropped 20% from the recent highest point, which it hasn't, so it's still in a bull market.
Once the ftse100 drops to about 6200-6300 then it will enter a bear market with that 20% drop, then we start looking at subsequent recessions, etc. Currently we are only in bull market correction territory, ie 10% drop from recent highs.

[spacedust] 01/3/2020 15:00

People posting here saying 86000 cases and 3000 deaths is not that bad a situation . A momth ago people were posting:

It's not that bad only 16000 people have caught it and 120 dead.....

Laganair i mentioned oil price decline and IAG only few days ago.

[toon1966] 01/3/2020 14:56

Good point m1k3y1. Plenty of news outlets to get your daily fill of corona updates. Increase in the number of new cases in the UK (and globally) is not surprising.

[watfordhornet] 01/3/2020 14:50

Bull run? The FTSE is lower than it was in 1999. How can that be a bull run

[m1k3y1] 01/3/2020 14:50

ham.....not ignoring anything, just following the advice from The WHO.
"Our greatest enemy right now is not the virus itself. It’s fear, rumours and stigma.
And our greatest assets are facts, reason and solidarity".

cyberian....Thanks

[hamhamham1] 01/3/2020 14:40

Ok, but this is a black swan event and you cam ignore it if you want.
Do you believe in market cycles, from booming times to recessions? Usual time frame is 7 to 8 years, and we are 11 years in to a record bull run. It will not go on forever.

[cyberian] 01/3/2020 14:34

mik3y1...if you follow my direction in post 13317, you will see that the situation is not that bad...problems are China, South Korea,Italy,Iran, and Japan...elsewhere very few new cases, and quite a few where it shows that the days since any last reported cases are sometimes over 21 days. The latter is a very good sign....the 5 key countries with problems are now being aggressively managed and that is a big positive...containment is important. My conclusion is that once China can push for increasing its output/production then we will be in better shape economically for global growth. I can understand the current concern by a lot of Governments to encourage or require short term restriction on big gatherings, shows, and travel, but postponement could hopefully be relatively modest. No need to panic, but important to follow the numbers over the next 1/3 weeks.

[m1k3y1] 01/3/2020 14:06

ham........we really don't need repetitive updates of when someone else has caught the virus .

[hamhamham1] 01/3/2020 13:41

12 more patients got it in the uk

[dandu69] 01/3/2020 13:39

based on the current situation, what would be an ideal entry point?

[m1k3y1] 01/3/2020 13:15

Bookbroker......agree with your view.

[bookbroker] 01/3/2020 13:00

To be honest a good deal of this companies profits come from business travel on the New York Route, so cutting back on flights is not going to make a lot of difference to their bottom line to Timbuktu, etc. Why it dropped to almost £4.00 last year beyond, Brexit, Brexit, but that was an incredible buying opportunity. Thought there was something more sinister, so refrained, but if things return to normal they will soar, as many airlines will face oblivion after this, and IAG in a financially immense position.

[bookbroker] 01/3/2020 12:54

Loganair, you got a storage tank in ur back yard, where do you think they will put it, chances are they might be buying in the forward market, but it is not really feasible to stockpile!