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Stock Name Stock Symbol Market Stock Type Stock ISIN Stock Description
Integumen Plc SKIN London Ordinary Share GB00BMGWZY29 ORD 0.1P
  Price Change Price Change % Stock Price Last Trade
0.00 0.0% 28.00 00:00:00
Open Price Low Price High Price Close Price Previous Close
28.00 28.00
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yump: I have a question for any 'real investors' which I doubt will get answered: Have you actually worked out what sort of profit SKIN might make in the next few years ? Have you any figures at all that you're working on yourself ? I only ask because most 'real investors' would be looking at investing in a 'real business'. ie. one which at some point stops issuing shares and actually makes profits from its business model. A small point I guess if you're just a lucky punter, intent on conning yourself and others that you made a shrewd investment based on 'research'. Clearly research with no clue about likely future financials.
cocker: Then you would have seen I have been around since 2003 and the definition of a real investor I guess is one that only buys shares and not one who profits from shorting. These bb originally were for investors to share points of view and although its your choice, to filter an opinion makes one look rather childish at best. Still what's left is easy pickings for the likes of GC and that's why his snout is in the trough with those he feeds.
tickboo: Lunsam on lse-To clear up a couple of points, the share price did not halve because of the AGM, the share price halved because Helium sold 6% of Integumen, pretty much in one go. Traders had already bought in the morning, and so when there were 6 million shares on the bid there was simply not enough demand to take them. Obviously this means they walk down the buy price until someone does buy them. GB had built it up on Twitter, and so had attracted a lot of traders in the prior days, the news was irrelevant to them. These guys who trade for gains of 10-20% in a few days were now down 10-20%, this clearly creates panic and adds to the number of shares being sold. IF there had been no hype on social media platforms, the share price would likely have been at 30p when the BT was announced, it likely would have gone to 70 on the news and Helium would have still sold 6%, taking the price back down. I doubt we would be back down to where we are now, but Helium selling is totally unforeseen and out of Gerrys control. Combined SKIN and MWG (at 65p) represented over 40% of Heliums Portfolio, any decent investors on this board know that that is overexposure to a single company. Per the last disclosure, they own 3.32% of SKIN and 13.55% of MWG. This is c. 8% of the enlarged entity. GB will now realise that what he did on Twitter was partially responsible for the capitulation, he is a large shareholder and so as he said himself, will have noticed. He also doesn't really care for daily share price movements, he is trying to build a large company and will look at this on a 3 year time horizon (or something like that anyway). Genuine excitement got misconstrued, and i would be very surprised to see more minions on Twitter 8 hours before a significant announcement. The fundamentals do remain unchanged, he has grown revenues 400% year on year and is looking at that same multiple this year. Revenue guidance for this half year suggests that we will be on the cusp of EBITDA positive. We have £1m of exercised warrants in the bank, and a £3m debt facility. That is plenty to see the final development of both the above ground, and below ground waste-water test through. They have access to one of the 7 (i think) Category 3 Laboratories in Aberdeen, that is not easy to get access to. He will be in contact with Cruise companies, Airlines, Schools etc. This is the perfect solution for them. He is in contact with multiple Governments (he has no reason to lie about this).Investors (maybe not traders), should look past Covid, and realise how transferable the technology is that is being built. What you can do for one disease, you can do for many others. This is so far from a one trick pony that many on this board seem to think it is. I have total faith that DeepVerge (SKIN + MWG) will be a market leading ESG investment within the Skincare and Water Industry over years to come.
georgethefourth: I think people are worrying over nothing here. The result is only valid for 24 hours. If you had to physically post the chip to some head office to get the result it would take way too long and you wouldn't have it back in time to make the 24 hour window viable. They must be anticipating having the microtox readers all over the place otherwise it wouldn't be feasible. I expect this drop to be bought up by the city at the expense of easily spooked smaller investors. Some clarification will be issued tomorrow morning and then we'll open back up at the highs, where all the small investors will no doubt buy back...
paddyfool: once someone announces that they have a thing which does something useful or that there may be lots of stuff somewhere of value and they have the rights to it there is a value to that thing. Whilst it may take time to prove it or otherwise there is risk in that time and the likely success. people who say there is none are just wrong. Investors on the other hand take a view that there is risk between the thing being announced and the point at which full value can be realised. So yes investors are speculating with their differing views of the likelihood, time and money it would take for full value to materialise. At the beginning of this process there is value, potentially lots of it. In Skin and Avacta there is potentially a lot. So the market, us, take a view on how much that is. It most definitely is not zero......rant over!
yump: Well we will find out in due course who has lost who money won't we and whether people who are encouraged to invest and then lose out, have actually lost money, or whether those who don't invest actually lose money. Its not a complex logic problem. If rampers, tweeters etc. encourage people to buy and the price ends up lower or petering out, because eventually enough investors realise the business is not actually going to make any profit, they never, ever show their faces again to apologise for actually losing other people money. The idea that people can lose money by not investing is purile. In the words of the well-known phrase: its not even wrong. Anyone who has been around the market for any length of time will know exactly what it looks like when a business is blown up with stories and then it gradually dawns on investors that its not the dog's whatsits. In fact it would be an interesting exercise to detail them all. Take every stock that has been ramped and spiked and see which ones actually end up with a profitable, sustainable business that delivers a share price in excess of the spike. I wonder whether than would be more than I can count on one hand ? Anyone got any spare time and a blog ?
monkey puzzle: Mon, 14th Sep 2020 07:00 RNS Number : 7964Y Avacta Group PLC 14 September 2020 14 September 2020 Avacta Group plc ("Avacta", the "Group" or the "Company") Notice of Results and Investor Presentation Avacta Group plc (AIM: AVCT), the developer of Affimer® biotherapeutics and reagents, will announce its unaudited interim results for the 6 months ended 30 June 2020 on Monday, 28 September 2020. Shareholder webinar A shareholder and investor webinar presentation by Alastair Smith, Chief Executive Officer, Tony Gardiner, Chief Financial Officer and Neil Bell, Chief Development Officer will take place at 10:30 hrs on Monday, 28 September 2020. The webinar is open to all existing and potential investors and will consist of a presentation followed by a Q&A session, held on the Investor Meet Company platform.
yump: Surely that definition is the definition of the stock market. The difference is that in a Ponzi scheme there is no intention to ever generate a profitable business, where profits from the actual business are used to reward investors. 'Investments' from new investors are used directly to pay earlier investors. There isn't necessarily even a business running at all. The problem with the stock market is that you cannot necessarily work out whether a BOD really intends to build what most people would recognise as a profitable business, or whether its just an exercise in acquiring businesses cheaply and to generate stories that encourage new investors, so that earlier investors can sell out. That has been going on for donkey's years. The difficulty is that without being inside, you never know the real intentions of the BOD. They could even be deluded into thinking that they will develop a genuine profitable business. But if you can get funds and pay yourself, what's the problem. There are loads of smaller businesses that never, ever make a profit, but BOD's are not breaking the law, some are just exploiting ignorance and greed. Some really want profits, some don't give a monkeys.
monkey puzzle: A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investing scam promising high rates of return with little risk to investors. The Ponzi scheme generates returns for early investors by acquiring new investors. This is similar to a pyramid scheme in that both are based on using new investors' funds to pay the earlier backers
yump: So how much does all this 'success' add up to then, other than a shed load of shares diluting you. If you want to convince other investors why don't you deal with some facts ? What's the problem ? Its easy enough if you're actually genuine investors. Where's the profit guidance and the trading updates ?
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