Ilika Share Discussion Threads

[kenbos] 22/5/2017 19:01

It's all quiet on here there must be some announcement about something hardly any shares being traded what are we hoping for in the near future ?

[pugugly] 03/5/2017 20:57

RG: Is a very shrewd investor (in most cases) now under 3% according to the last rns where he declared a holding of some 2,574,836 shares - Not a lot for an institution to take - That is if Ilika can generate sufficient profitable sales - OK we all hear about potential market size but sales traction seem sot be lacking at the moment and newer and better products may arrive sooner than expected.

See:

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If they can deliver their objectives a game changer for batteries and electrical storeage - BUT chances of success ???

[leonsix1] 03/5/2017 11:33

Is there a plan to deal with RG’s shares? In the absence of a large purchaser, it could take a while (at current and historic trading volume levels) to absorb that number of shares.
Whilst no one has enjoyed the share price movement over the last 2 years, isn’t it also a tad petty and perhaps short-sighted holding back good news to punish this guy? Success often begets success and announcing deals and other good news might well in itself act as a catalyst and lead to a lot more of it.
I’m not sure what, if anything can be done re these shares but it would be good if this rather painful aspect could be brought to a close.

[horneblower] 02/5/2017 15:01

That EETimes article is complete puff.
As close to fake news as you can get.

[malnu] 02/5/2017 14:11

There is no desire by anyone in the company to move the price higher whilst the pest Richard Griffiths continues to be an ongoing seller. When he is stretchered out, the price will sky rocket. He is now down to around 3% of the company. Why reward the pest that has been depressing the price the past two years?

[leonsix1] 02/5/2017 11:42

Yeah, it’s that article. It did contain quite a bit of news and I’m wondering why the RNS’s haven’t caught up yet.

[big7ime] 29/4/2017 15:52

This part reads like they are signing licenses, yet no RNS. In hand?

Purdy claims to already have licenses in-hand

[big7ime] 29/4/2017 15:37

Leonsix1 Is this same article?

LAKE WALES, Fla. -- Batteries could be transformed from our slowest growing technology to our fastest growing advanced technology if Ilika Technologies Ltd. (University of Southampton Science Park, Southampton U.K.) can realize its dream of self-powered systems-on-chip (SoCs).

By eliminating the liquid cores of every other battery technology under the sun -- especially the flammable lithium ion (Li-ion) -- into the solid-state micron-thin-layers of an SoC, each chip in an electronic circuit could become self-powered, simplifying printed circuit boards and eliminating the big-iron power supplies required today.

Ilika's solid-state batteries now come in the full range of temperatures (from -40 degrees Celsius up to +150 C.), making them accessible to automotive, industrial IoT and other rugged environments.


ARM and Ilika have teamed to build self-powered system-on-chip beacons which are half way between a wearable and an industrial IoT in order to accurately monitor livestock.
(Source: Ilika)


"Our solid-state batteries can now be adapted to all sizes and operating environments," Graeme Purdy, Ilika CEO, told EE Times in advance of the company's extended temperature range announcement. "For instance, Toyota -- one of our earliest partners -- has funded our solid-state battery development efforts for eight years and came up with series of solutions they are now scaling up to produce big batteries for electric automobiles. But they have also screened our materials and helped scale them down to chip size. By 2025, we predict they be in production."




All the same ingredients are used ‐ anode, cathode, electrolyte ‐ but stacked on a solid-state chip to cut costs and lengthen lifetime of the powered device.
(Source: Ilika)
The transformation from flammable Li-ion to inflammable solid-state batteries is not going to happen overnight. In fact, the first mass-produced end-user products using them is predicted by Purdy to appear near the end of the decade. The first products to hit the market will likely use free standing solid-state batteries.

Nevertheless, once all the bugs have been worked out, rechargeable solid-state batteries using both solar and vibrational energy harvesting, plus charge-once-and-forget for the 10-year lifetime of the solid-state battery powered product, could become the rule rather than the exception. (Cymbet Corp. in Elk River, Minn., is currently offering development kits for its 250 square millimeter solid-state batteries, which may hit the market even earlier).


Rechargeable modules (right) can have backside integrated photovoltaic cells (middle, upright) constantly recharging solid-state batteries (left, upright) for indefinite lifetimes in the field, here a temperature sensor.
(Source: Ilika)
"Our solid-state batteries are based on lithium ion technology, but with solid-state safety, plus twice the energy density. Also, users can charge them in six-times faster than liquid Li-ion ‐ 15 minutes to recharge instead of 1-1/2 hours," Purdy told EE Times.

"Regarding our relationship with Toyota, we jointly own the patents for the bulk batteries suitable for electric vehicles. But Ilika wholly owns the patents for small batteries," Purdy said. "Out patents covert three aspects: the combination of materials compared to conventional lithium ion, secondly the process (evaporation) is patented -- instead of powder to ink-based printing on foil we heat to evaporate at 400 degrees Celcius -- and thirdly we have patented the architecture and our way to combining the different ingredients."



A complete Internet of Things (IoT) device can be integrated with its solid-state battery, here on a daughter-board, or could even be integrated on the same system-on-chip (SoC) as runs a wearable with a 10 year lifetime.
(Source: Ilika)
The key, however, to solid-state batteries, according to Purdy, is the use of a silicon anode which eliminates the need for a liquid electrolyte, is easier to encapsulate against the environment, and even if partially exposed, has less of a reaction to air and moisture than liquid electrolyte Li-Ion batteries.

Purdy claims to already have licenses in-hand for industrial IoT makers, using the extended temperature range IP, and from consumer product makers for the normal temperature range IP. In fact, Ilika's business model is never to compete with its licensees, but rather to prove-the-concept of its technology, offer design services and example applications, such as its Stereax M250 battery in a Perpetual Beacon Demonstration.



Wafers full of solid-state batteries make their manufacturing scalable and cheaper yet when ordered in high volumes.
(Source: Ilika)
Ilika has also qualified several foundries for its customers to build their chips using its licensed IP, including the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co. (TSMC). However, the company claims that any foundry which routinely deals with compound semiconductors, such as GaAs, SiC, GaN or OLEDS, can also manufacture its solid-state batteries. For instance, Sharp Laboratories of Europe is developing an autonomous energy harvesting power source using Ilika IP.

[leonsix1] 28/4/2017 09:10

Maybe they’ll tidy it up with an interview and/or RNS at some point.
Anyway… big picture… another global company is on our dance card.

[supernumerary] 27/4/2017 16:30

I assume the video was a blog, or a tweet or a Youtube channel, or something? Can't guarantee all investors will see these things - I certainly didn't - that's what RNSNON is for.

Maybe it is Toyota, but surely that's the sort of prediction Toyota would prefer to keep to itself? While accepting that it's a magazine article not a formal PR, it still seems Ilika should make sure there's no ambiguity about the meaning of such forecasts.

[leonsix1] 27/4/2017 14:25

Re: ARM, they released a video 21/03/2017 but agree, it would be nice to see an RNS. It would be quite something to see (or have the prospect of) an IKA battery integrated on every ARM chip.
I read the 2025 comment to refer to Toyota’s production of their large car batteries and not the smaller IKA ones.

[supernumerary] 27/4/2017 14:12

I've really no idea what's going on here. That interview said, for instance: 'ARM and Ilika have teamed to build self-powered system-on-chip beacons which are half way between a wearable and an industrial IoT in order to accurately monitor livestock. Source Ilika.'

Have they ever announced any sort of cooperation with ARM? If there is one, it's good news and should have been notified to the market; if not, what's this all about?

Later, Graeme Purdy says: 'By 2025, we predict they [will] be in production.' By 2025 of course covers any date up to then, including tomorrow, but if that's really their estimate for production, it's more than a little unnerving.

[horneblower] 27/4/2017 12:23

At last, a mention of the word stacked, after is it two years of silence?
Probably for next year...or the year after? I sincerely hope not!
Come on Ilika. Get a move on.

[clives] 27/4/2017 12:15

Anyone checked out the latest newsletter, look at the intro very interesting -

"Earlier this week, Ilika launched its latest solid-state battery product, the P180. This battery has been designed for high temperature operation in industrial and transport applications. It is the latest product from Ilika’s Stereax™ roadmap, which also includes the future launch of miniature batteries for medical implants and higher capacity stacked batteries for sensors with greater power requirements. During the last few months, Ilika has announced two collaborations focussed on the deployment of its battery technology, one integrating Stereax with Sharp photovoltaic devices and the other deploying Stereax in bioelectronics implants. We will be exhibiting and speaking about the P180 at this year’s IDTechEx event next month in Berlin. We welcome customers and partners to visit us at our exhibition booth at the event to discuss how our technology can enable their applications. Over the next few weeks you can also hear us speak in the USA at Nanotech 2017, Battery Power 2017 and the Sensors Expo and Conference".

Definite emphasis on the inclusion of stacked batteries with greater power requirements - sooner rather that later all being well.

[leonsix1] 26/4/2017 14:02

G Purdy Interview - not the best page layout but worth reading it all imo
hxxp://www.eetimes.com/document.asp?doc_id=1331646

[leonsix1] 26/4/2017 13:23

Liking the professionalism and commercial thinking that seems to be going on at IKA. Specific products for defined markets/users and each having tangible benefits.
The PR is also well managed and effective imo: twitter posts/updated banner, press releases/articles/video and updated website with P180 specs and tech info, all synched and delivered on the morning of the launch.
Good job imo.

[horneblower] 26/4/2017 09:01

Good to extend the range of customers. P180?
I'm waiting for the all important announcement about multi-stacked batteries. I fear it will be a long wait.

[big7ime] 26/4/2017 08:50

Has no-one noticed the new prod launch, a very quiet thread this (just the way I like it)
Should get a resurgence once the news gets noticed, maybe IC will update or do we have to wait for it to get its first licence deal

[supernumerary] 10/4/2017 19:56

I doubt a deal with Dyson was ever feasible - I imagine he would want ownership of the ip, but much of it's shared with Toyota and is not Ilika's to dispose of.

[horneblower] 10/4/2017 19:22

Thanks Big7ime.
Dyson needs power batteries not micro cells.
I suspect that had he done a deal with Ilika rather than Sakti3 in October 2015 then it would be Ilika he would be ditching now. Neither has achieved what they promised...although I think Ilika has achieved more. As far as I know, Sakti3 didn't even produce a working prototype.

[big7ime] 10/4/2017 18:36

Endeavour is the next size up group of batteries that Ika will be launching
Dyson and Syktri3 relationship has ended (licence not being renewed) so leads me to speculate that he needs another partner. Does Ilika hold the key? Prob in a few yrs

[horneblower] 09/4/2017 11:55

What is Endeavour and what is this news re Dyson?
Rogk, please don't post at all if you intend to delete.
It wastes so much of our time.

[big7ime] 09/4/2017 10:47

Good spot Rog, I always said that Dyson was making a mistake there, just sensed he had been lead up the garden path and should probably now turn his attention to Ilika. For him a steal at say 70m. There is nothing out there that I have seen that rivals us