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Share Name | Share Symbol | Market | Type | Share ISIN | Share Description |
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Hsbc Holdings Plc | LSE:HSBA | London | Ordinary Share | GB0005405286 | ORD $0.50 (UK REG) |
Price Change | % Change | Share Price | Bid Price | Offer Price | High Price | Low Price | Open Price | Shares Traded | Last Trade | |
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4.00 | 0.65% | 619.00 | 619.20 | 619.30 | 627.50 | 618.00 | 618.80 | 29,466,413 | 16:35:29 |
Industry Sector | Turnover | Profit | EPS - Basic | PE Ratio | Market Cap |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
Offices-bank Holding Company | 65.91B | 23.53B | 1.2338 | 23.73 | 558.5B |
Date | Subject | Author | Discuss |
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04/11/2019 14:15 | I certainly got a cheque after letting my rights lapse in 2009. | zangdook | |
02/11/2019 21:22 | ffs feel free to work it out to the exact penny if you's two want to. | gaffer73 | |
02/11/2019 19:16 | Gaffer - in many case the unsubscribed rights are sold in the open market and the premium (if there is one) is divide amongst non-subscribers. | ianood | |
02/11/2019 18:42 | You don't get a payment for lapsed rights. It's an option to buy that's all, you either do or you don't. | gaffer73 | |
02/11/2019 18:08 | If the idea is that you're reinvesting all the dividends, but you don't reinvest the payment for the lapsed rights, then the result is skewed because you're taking something out of the pot half-way. To find out what a single initial investment would become over a period of time you'd have to re-invest all of the cash that investment generated during the investment period. | zangdook | |
02/11/2019 18:00 | Interesting, so the end total would be much more. The rights issue wouldn't count as we were talking about a single sum investment. | gaffer73 | |
02/11/2019 17:54 | As a result of a share capital reorganisation implemented on 2 July 1999, each ordinary share of 75p each was replaced with three new ordinary shares of US$0.50 each. A rights issue would make a difference - if you didn't take it up and sold the rights or let them lapse and got a payment for them, you'd have to reinvest that payment for the calculation to work. | zangdook | |
02/11/2019 17:38 | It was just an illustration but the rights issues wouldn't make any difference. What was the stock split for? | gaffer73 | |
02/11/2019 17:21 | IIRC there was a three-for-one stock split in 1999, and there's been the occasional rights issue too. So unless you're making allowances for those, especially the stock split, some of the above calculations are moot. | zangdook | |
02/11/2019 15:27 | Thanks!!!! trouble was that the SAYE scheme only matured in November/December 2002. Just confirms that timing makes one heck of a difference. | mikepearce45 | |
02/11/2019 11:12 | Definitely, if you'd bought a year earlier your initial investment could have been 3500 giving you 350% return. | gaffer73 | |
02/11/2019 09:41 | Ok just out of interest I've done a quick calculation on what you would have if you'd bought 1000 shares at the height of 1997 and reinvested all the divi's.1997 height was about 730 so initial investment would be 7300. If you'd reinvested all the divi's you'd have approx 16650. So you'd have made 130% on your original investment, not bad really. Its worth noting though that up to 2008 you could have got the same return from a bank account. Just shows that if you look after your own investments you really need to assess them regularly and choose accordingly. | gaffer73 | |
01/11/2019 23:49 | So you have doubled your original investment. | gaffer73 | |
01/11/2019 21:24 | gaffer73 post 7943 Can give you a rough idea on how your "divi reinvestment" scenario would have worked out. In Jan 2003 I transferred 1082 HSBC shares into a Corporate ISA (from a SAYE scheme) Share transfer price was 641.45 = cost £6940.49. I have reinvested every divi since then and now hold 2406 shares for a total amount invested of £16,111.11. Today's valuation is £14,164.12 ie a loss of £1946.98. and this, of course, does not take into consideration inflation. Before anyone posts the opinion that I have been a "idiot" to continue the investment, it was started for a thirty year period (until Jan 2033) and it is only a very small % of my overall portfolio. | mikepearce45 | |
01/11/2019 20:20 | That will be 20 years Monty. | watfordhornet | |
01/11/2019 11:08 | It actually below a 1997 figure. I wonder how much you'd have received in divi's since then though, bet you would have doubled your money if you'd reinvested them. | gaffer73 | |
01/11/2019 10:52 | Shareprice below what it was in 1999. So no growth in 30 years, only a nice dividend. | montyhedge | |
01/11/2019 10:44 | Wouldn't class 1.3 as strong, 1.6+ yes. | gaffer73 | |
01/11/2019 10:42 | Still looking weak, strong pound, dividend less. | montyhedge | |
29/10/2019 21:38 | WD montyhedge, close call. Closed short! | dudishes | |
29/10/2019 17:42 | Cheers for that. I've just bought these and was going to ask if the divi is safe. Reading that article to appears to be, so I've managed to get a good entry point and a 7% divi! (although I've missed the next one) | gaffer73 | |
29/10/2019 16:51 | Q3 update was analysed here: | rndm355 | |
28/10/2019 19:37 | Disappointing figures. | montyhedge | |
28/10/2019 10:41 | Was only 3 years ago that this was some 430p'ish. Asia certainly is the "powerhouse", although that's suffering from US/China issue. But it's a very resilient region that'll bounce back, as we all know. Question is: why buy now? Can't think of an answer to that, other than maybe the US and China will become friends, lol. Why sell, then? Global economy on a downturn. Anyway, flogged half of mine at an acceptable profit and sitting tight. Should've done it earlier! | poikka | |
28/10/2019 08:23 | Asia the powerhouse for hsbc and where the future lies, europe a permanent struggle and the uk a basket case with a trashed brexit currency, at least the euro has some value with germany behind it. If these go a bit lower i will come back into them altho the days of a 7.50 value are long gone i think. | porsche1945 |
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