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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Hargreaves Services Plc LSE:HSP London Ordinary Share GB00B0MTC970 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.50 0.11% 438.50 435.00 442.00 435.00 423.00 425.00 47,683 16:35:28
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Support Services 204.8 14.4 50.8 8.6 142

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
24/12/2020
13:09
Those sales reductions are because they have ceased coal trading operations - they weren't just seeking the coal they had on the books. That is how I read it.
harrogate
24/12/2020
13:03
hmmmm 2nd look has £75 million of coal (25 +30 + 20) been sold for £24 million ??!! I doubt it. So, how come future revenue will reduce by 75 million, 3x the value of the coal sold ?
smithie6
24/12/2020
10:52
86% economic interest of HSP in the JV in Germany but 49% of the voting rights Quite a common set up I think. Some entrepenueral managers/bosses over there saw an opportunity but didn't have the cash to do it, so they organised HSP as their backer (& in part due to HSP's experience/turnover/stocks/contacts/etc in the coal sector ) (did the jv partners put in 16% of the cash invested in to the jv ?? ....X % would be fair since 'they' came up with the plan but hopefully they put some of their own cash or assets in to the jv as well Is it £15 million that HSP has invested now ??) but since 'they' came up with the plan & are managing the jv/project they wanted to be the ones to run the jv/project, by having 51% of the votes for control/action, understandable. ----- the deal today for selling coal stocks helps show the good logic behind the partnership imo. nice/clever deal (but hey, dirs. get well paid to 'direct' & create a strategy & do deals, nice to see it happening)
smithie6
24/12/2020
08:16
At least it significantly reduces the borrowings which allows the company to negotiate its banking arrangements for the betterment of the company
solarno lopez
24/12/2020
08:10
I guess it's to do with the capital structure. Voting rights and economic interest conferred by different classes of shares can differ... Alternatively there could be some other form of agreement that gives them the economic interest.
bagpuss67
24/12/2020
07:55
Surely it will be a sale of stock so a normal sale.
harrogate
24/12/2020
07:55
Will the £24m come to us as a dividend?
netcurtains
24/12/2020
07:40
Haven't they effectively sold it to (half of ...) themselves - from a shareholder's viewpoint anyway as we're interested in the whole entity? Hargreaves owns 49.9% of the voting shares in HRMS but retains an 86% economic interest. Also, can anyone explain "86% economic interest"?
boystown
24/12/2020
07:32
Nor me in fact its very good news
solarno lopez
24/12/2020
07:21
Today's rns sounds a neat deal. Offload legacy coal to a subsidiary for cash and debt goes down by £15m.Anyone see any downside to this?
ayl30
19/12/2020
09:24
ah thanks, now I understand. ( btw the thing I mentioned as being clever was the part of the Eckoh stuff which is patented, something different than Bixby; but Eckoh shares, for me they look expensive so there is a downside risk, so not for me)
smithie6
18/12/2020
20:59
Its less clever than you think. Its basically thousands of language developers around the world saying variances of the same utterances into phones so bixbys DB is big enough so it knows how to convert your specific company's (HSP) utterance into text. Often the text is simply sent to java script that calls APIs to get the information the user really wants (Eg a cooking recipe spoken to you as you cook - for example). Security isnt really a problem.... The APIs handle their own security.
netcurtains
18/12/2020
20:49
ah ha.....many software/voice experts ! (I remember that Eckoh have some patents for some related stuff, for processing payments by telephone, from calls made by voice, but complying with standards for security of their bank/card data, must be clever stuff since they managed to patent it & they expanded its use to USA)
smithie6
18/12/2020
19:56
Hope there's some decent security controls around that ;)Part of a thesis I wrote last year alluded to voice / mixed reality and issues with integrity with many new attack vectors.Sorry for the off topic, its a fascinating area!
beeks of arabia
18/12/2020
19:14
Bixby is a Samsung phone voice recognition system. Developers can write capsules for 3rd parties (eg HSP) - Say HSP customers wanted to get information about coal or housing on the internet. An HSP developer could write an HSP voice recognition capsule which would allow Samsung phones to verbally give HSP customers information about coal or housing. Why voice? Well think about it, theoretically its much easier and faster to dictate a whatsApp message then it is to type it.
netcurtains
18/12/2020
18:40
Bixby market place.."capsules"...etc etc (capsules is not a word that Joe Bloggs is used to using for apps or a mobile phone. normally means a small container of drugs/antibiotics !) ...I couldn't understand/grasp what Bixby does ! :-( is it ppl selling/licensing chunks of software that can be used in the apps of others ?? ----- if you have worked in software all these years that should have been rewarding financially ...I went into hardware/systems, I would have done better going into software (although staring at a screen for years is a -ve)
smithie6
18/12/2020
17:35
Simithie6: I spent the first 6 years of my IT career doing IBM System 360 Assembler (with JCL and TSO). I now do voice recognition (Bixby market place). IT moves really fast - although it did take 50 years to go from Assembler to voice (at least that is how long it took me): Https://news.samsung.com/global/the-bixby-marketplace-is-now-officially-open-in-the-us-and-korea
netcurtains
18/12/2020
17:31
25k shares bt today at 257p & 10k at 258p fairly big chunks of money, backing HSP shares. ------ fingers crossed that we won't see any more trades in the 240-250p range.
smithie6
18/12/2020
17:26
ah ha ! that was a long drive to do maintence/repair ! (I remember when my work PC had a HDD of only 200MB !...& most of that was used by programmes like text processing & ppl had no choice but to save everything on external 5" floppies ....& you had to look thru them to find on which floppy was the file you wanted ! .....ok, I had previously used punched cards to store a basic software file/programme !! ....& there used to be big special machines able to quickly read a big stack of punched cards ! ...how times change...)
smithie6
18/12/2020
16:35
My first IT roadtrip was to swap a floppy drive out at Gullane golf club. All the way from Leeds, circa 1993!
beeks of arabia
18/12/2020
15:36
No dont play golf but have lots of relatives live around Silverknowes. Bus service OK to edinburgh and nice walks along estuary.... and cheap houses.
netcurtains
18/12/2020
14:46
netc btw are you a golfer ? I don't know if that was why you looked at moving to the Edinburgh area. Shed loads of golf courses along that Edinburgh/Lothian coastline ! ....& looks like there are even some within Edinburgh city limits !
smithie6
18/12/2020
13:38
just been looking Silverknowes, no train station. ;-) whereas Blindwells is ~1.1 miles from a station. :-) from Blindwells one can go to/from the ctr of Edinburgh very easily &/or to England since that train line is the main east coast train line (yes, you probably/surely have to go to a bigger train station to get on/off the high speed long distance trains) to Edinburgh airport is just 55 minutes from Prestonpans train station, (+ a taxi for 1.1 miles to/from Blindwells or get dropped off by family ?) train to Edinburgh Park & change to get the tram to the airport 55 minutes, pretty good https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Prestonpans,+Reino+Unido/Aeropuerto+de+Edimburgo+(EDI),+Edinburgh+EH12+9DN,+Reino+Unido/@55.9432813,-3.1696869,10z/data=!4m8!4m7!1m2!1m1!1s0x4887a546166caf85:0x52245411ed05d7af!1m2!1m1!1s0x4887c50e93e3017d:0x19530a2592b1d59b!3e3!5m1!1e2
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