Hargreaves Lansdown Share Discussion Threads

[ochs] 05/8/2021 13:09

STJ had a good reaction from the market to their results last wk... so it's possible!

[growthpotential] 04/8/2021 23:33

When will the market reaction be great(?)

[lomax99] 03/8/2021 15:21

Results announced next Monday, they should be good. Expect market reaction to be indifferent, as usual.

[lomax99] 28/7/2021 11:47

Should be a good read across from STJ's results.

[ochs] 25/7/2021 20:17

I jumped in at 1564 last wk as HL doesn't seem to have gone much lower than that recently. Now expecting the usual bounce to around 1680 ;)

[growthpotential] 25/7/2021 19:55

I think you should hold both UK, US, that's why it's called a "portfolio"

[porsche1945] 15/7/2021 10:31

Was the huge fall yesterday one of the fossil part owners unloading again?…Endless fall backs, not really investable for capital growth as long as it keeps going on. Never goes anywhere and nosebleed above 16.80. Buy US growth, U.K. really is terminal in every sense of the world. Massively up on my Amzn and Apple…big smile.

[ianguerin] 15/7/2021 06:20

imastu - I adopt the same approach. If you haven't got the confirmation you were seeking on your pension questions yet(the LGEN thread) then you might try these:-

hxxps://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/pensions-and-retirement

Their "Your pension; your choices" guide may help too

[imastu pidgitaswell] 13/7/2021 10:47

fwiw, I have always kept every trade in Excel - so I can follow every individual transaction and when it is profitable and by how much etc.

And when completed I have a total record of everything and can sort it (pivot-table) by month, date sold, profit, etc etc - a table by month across and epic down is a default.

I doubt any provider can do that; and I certainly don't bother with HL's tables - I agree they make no sense to me.

[cottlet] 13/7/2021 10:05

interesting replies, thank you all. The individual stock profits seem entirely inaccurate. there is a facility to copy and paste transactions onto an excel sheet and if you then do a total sum of buys and sells one should be able to see the whole profit or loss of all transactions in that stock. It doesn't work like that at all!!!
the only way I can tell if I am making profits or not is to look at the total value of the account figure....which begs the question, is that correct?
let me read and digest your replies again.

[ianguerin] 12/7/2021 21:26

Cottlet - I have the same problem with AJ Bell at individual share level, so no chance of the correct portfolio returns

[p1es] 12/7/2021 19:01

As far as I can tell, the total gain/loss only represents the gain/loss on what you have invested at any given time. If you sell a share then the gain/loss is 'forgotten' when converted into cash. If you then buy another share with the cash, the gain/loss on that amount starts from zero again, in terms of how it is calculated in the total gain/loss.

[davr0s] 12/7/2021 18:37

Yes - the totals move all over the place including during the weekend which I find totally baffling as everything is shut down

[ochs] 12/7/2021 17:55

Hi cottlet, do you mean for each individual stock or for the whole account (ie. for your ISA or trading account as a whole)?

With shares I know that the total amount of money they show invested always includes the trading commission and stamp duty paid (but that is standard).

[cottlet] 12/7/2021 17:23

As a client of HL. I find their presentation of gain and loss on the account summary totally mystifying. particularly when the have been several buys and sells.Whatever the gain and loss is..on the account summary....its not correct.
I find it hard to understand why but their figures don't add up. I have asked for an explanation twice but mumbo jumbo comes back.
Does anyone else have this difficulty?

[ochs] 05/7/2021 16:03

Don't think so - next update should be with the final results on 9 Aug.

Year end has just passed - so no update means full year results will be inline with the trading update of 13 May.

[growthpotential] 05/7/2021 14:17

Trading update soon?

[ochs] 01/7/2021 17:04

Seems to be yoyoing between 1620 and 1575 over the last week or so, once it breaks out of this range it might be a bigger move - question is which way will it be!

[growthpotential] 01/7/2021 13:57

Back into the 1500s again, surely as asset values evolve this is just waiting to explode back to £10billion

[growthpotential] 22/6/2021 19:09

Sure, so just noise really and not an actual insight into future earnings. Although I would be interested to know what the data source was on "slowing flows"

[robinnicolson] 22/6/2021 15:46

The price action today can be attributed to a downgrade from Credit Suisse (PT 1520 from 1700).

[micha14] 22/6/2021 15:06

just you all wait till they release earnings on August 7th...They are stronger biz after pandemic than before because the grwoth post 2020 will and already has accelerated. 19pc sales growth, 15pc client growth

[ochs] 22/6/2021 10:49

Yes, and if 1595/1599 fails to hold then the next downside support would be around 1552/1560 - I'd be tempted to buy at that level.

[porsche1945] 22/6/2021 08:50

Heading back to 15’s, buy this rubbish about 1530/40 to trade out again high 16’s, great trade. Rinse and repeat. It’s earning me about 30pc return a year on a 50k figure allotted to this. I do the same with direct line, buy sub 300 put on the auto sell about 335, again earning about 25 pc a year on a similar value block. Bit of fun as a lucrative side trade with range bound stocks. It’s the only thing to do with ftse 100 haha. The reflation trade is dying off, move is back into ARKK style hyper growth and quality large cap tech, of which U.K. has none. Most of ftse now getting foreign heavy duty funds coming in to do what management should have done themselves, gsk Aviva bt and other assorted dross just recently, maybe this gets looked at, altho it’s PE is too high really.

[micha14] 17/6/2021 23:39

@ochs-

I think the frenetic trading and its commissions are recurring, and so does HL on their interims earnings call.
Sales up 19pc,
client Ns up 15pc.
The clients which invest for the long term start younger and live longer.
I think that the growth of HL in a post Covid world will be faster than in the pre Covid world while as the share price is lower than 1,2 or 3 years ago.
We are the end of HLs year and they trading on a multiple of 24, an average of US market.
Yet, economics, management, growth rates, shareholder base, are head and shoulders better than average. ITS A BARGAIN HERE, UNDERVALUED STOCK, CHEAP