Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Hargreaves Lansdown Plc LSE:HL. London Ordinary Share GB00B1VZ0M25 ORD 0.4P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -10.50 -0.66% 1,577.50 1,578.00 1,579.00 1,601.00 1,573.00 1,589.50 771,213 16:35:23
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Financial 55.1 378.3 66.1 23.9 7,482

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All the noise on excesssive and hidden fees are directed at HL mainly because they are the elephant in the room. Competition from new entrants is the long term view say RBS who downgraded from 'hold' to 'sell'. Charles Stanley has appointed product aggregator All My Plans (AMP) to assist in the launch of a direct-to-consumer (D2C) platform later this year. The service, called Charles Stanley Direct, is set to launch in July and will target clients with "weak" ties to a financial adviser, as well as those who cannot afford one. As spokesman said AMP will aggregate the group's fund dealing platforms and SIPP and ISA offerings into the service, which will also include insurance policies and bank accounts. Whilst the service is expected to be "competitive" on costs, Charles Stanley said it was more interested in competing on client service than getting into a "price war" with rival organisations such as Hargreaves Lansdown or Bestinvest.
Hi, There is a new ADVFN Wiki page for this company. It is pretty basic and needs expanding on. Anyone can edit it. Apologies if this has been posted before. Cheers, Jon
Great company but still a big market cap in a sector that has hit through very many negative stops of late, and more to come. Reduced trading costs but most are trading less now so probably not seeing any benefits. Can't see an upside at the moment so I wont be investing, and as Only Who? posts, 'Looks like a short to me...' , I still can't disagree - may go down a fair bit further with shorters piling in.
Looks like a short to me. Back to 460 tomorrow?
only who?
Not with JPJ Share, as yet [ they are a relatively new service ] Yes with Hoodless [ HBMarkets ], but usually only over the phone. Commission depends on deal size, It's expensive, at 1.75%, for smaller deals under £5k. Over £10k and you can usually get dealt for 1% or less, but, as with most brokers now, you have to haggle a bit to get the best rates.
outsize ,, can you trade in us or canadian stock with either JPJ or Hoodless ?? and how much do they charge? cheers
the graftman
Must have come close to triggering my stoploss. So I might be bounced out early tomorrow. If I am I might sit back. And if I see continued strength to £5.30 or above I'm shorting again.
HL very expensive would never consider using them I thought about shorting this earlier today but i know this is a loved stock, so i guessed it would bounce back as it did late in the day maybe tomorrow, who knows
I use JPJ Share and Hoodless Brennan. As for my point about charges. Let's break down income:- AFAIK HL's execution only stockbroking business last year had 1+ million trades. Last year it charged £25 for trades worth over £4,000 but has recently changed to £11.95, although there are lower rates if you deal more often. Phone trades are £20. As a comparison JPJ Share has a standard rate of £5.75 and £7.50 for phone trades. I'd count that as a potential £10 a trade hit, straight to the bottom line. Next if your ISA or SIPP has shares in it you pay 0.5% of their value up to £45 and £200 respectively. (HL is also earning commissions on buying and selling those shares for you) The problem for HL is that other providers are charging less in admin e.g. JPJ Share don't charge at all. Potential loss perhaps 0.2% to HL if it comes back into line with others. Thirdly there is HL's 'trail' income on funds sold. When you buy a fund through any provider there is an introductory charge of anything from 0% to 5%. Smaller funds have to levy an introductory charge in order to be viable, larger funds sometimes don't charge at all. HL AFAIK adds nothing on top of the charge levied by the funds. It makes its money from 'trail' i.e. when you buy a unit in a fund from anyone that fund charges you a percentage annual management fee. Of that fee, usually 20-25% goes to the fund administrator. Everything else goes to HL in 'trail' income, as the provider who sold the fund. The fund administrator, who actually runs the fund, earns way less than HL does. Because of the large client base it has HL's 'trail' income is now it's most important revenue source. As you may know, Dec. 2012 brings in the Retail Distribution Review, which will compel all providers to reveal how much they earn in 'trail'. The downer for HL is that, seeing the size of HL's share, many funds themselves might seek out alternative distribution platforms for their funds where the 'trail' is not so large, as all providers percentage take will be open to see. Potential loss 25% of 'trail' income ??????
I actually thought that their charges now are very good and, in terms of efficiency, second to none. I am not a shareholder, just a user of their services.
outsize ,,what broker would you recommend ??
the graftman
The results look good, but are a shade under broker forecasts. The rise is overdone IMHO. Maybe £4 - £4.20 justified, but there's a lot of uncertainty going forward. HL's charges are some of the highest in the industry, and fees are being cut. I can't see next year's growth being anything like this year's, so I've shorted 5k into the rise at £4.98. Stop in place though @ £5.10, in case I'm wrong.
great results but still think the growth story is in the rear view mirror here. short covering will dominate near term share price movmement
I am short from 510, so not concerned.
bubble pricker
stoxx67, LOL, diehart bulls always think sell-offs are overdone. PE still 30 here.
bubble pricker
seems to be getting rather silly does this decline.. Bullish divergences on RSI... tempted to buy a few here... but may well wait... lol
that will depend entirely on H&L's market cap vs the market cap of the other FTSE100 constituents at the time.
bubble pricker
whats the thoughts of this dropping out of the FT100, in the next reshuffle?
wow this one is unfolding pretty quickly. hgl are good marketeers but a ftse 100 company as an admin hub with huge pressure on regulatory transparency on their fees seems to suggest this one could go a lot lower...
going down nicely
bubble pricker
£3 in 6 months?
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