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GCL Geiger Counter Limited

50.00
0.00 (0.00%)
28 Mar 2024 - Closed
Delayed by 15 minutes
Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Geiger Counter Limited LSE:GCL London Ordinary Share GB00B15FW330 ORD NPV
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.00% 50.00 49.00 51.00 50.00 49.50 50.00 494,296 16:04:05
Industry Sector Turnover Profit EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap
Investors, Nec 25.15M 23.06M 0.1761 2.84 65.46M
Geiger Counter Limited is listed in the Investors sector of the London Stock Exchange with ticker GCL. The last closing price for Geiger Counter was 50p. Over the last year, Geiger Counter shares have traded in a share price range of 34.00p to 68.40p.

Geiger Counter currently has 130,921,251 shares in issue. The market capitalisation of Geiger Counter is £65.46 million. Geiger Counter has a price to earnings ratio (PE ratio) of 2.84.

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
03/5/2018
07:14
The quoted NAV yesterday was 18.62p.
masurenguy
03/5/2018
07:08
Good morning! Alas, I have no more cash. GCL can be bought for 18.53 while NAV must be around 19.4 or so. A real bargain!
greedfear
02/5/2018
19:54
Lol GF. Another good day!
bmcb5
02/5/2018
17:06
Frankly, I'm uber bullish short term too. lol.
But, I'm keeping an open mind.

greedfear
02/5/2018
16:21
Well it seems that we're all in broad agreement. And none of us are uber bullish in the short term. That's quite refreshing. kenmitch - totally understand your approach, and it is one i use often. I hope when the time comes, you get in at a sensible price.

I don't get the downticks either. I prefer to read a good bearish argument, rather than the 'this is about to explode' type that you find on most boards. Bearish posts provide thought material. And I've never understood why people think that bears are trying to make bulls lose money. Crazy argument from inexperienced investors imo. Thank goodness we don't seem to have that here.

bmcb5
02/5/2018
16:05
That's better. Should not comment at the same time on different connected BB's.
greedfear
02/5/2018
16:02
Ken- Jeezz, obviously still logged in on my Ihub account. This was/is greedfear. lol
ih_374139
02/5/2018
16:01
Ken- we're on the same line. I don't get the thumbs down too (probably will get one now :) ). Serious investors should always welcome different views, angles. I've learned a lot from people having different opinions based on research that is.
ih_374139
02/5/2018
15:40
greedfear.

I'm agreeing with you! I also doubt that there is much downside, so if investors are prepared to risk it being a good while before the sector bounces properly then invest now. I am not suggesting you have paid too much. In fact my tactic of waiting until it is clearer that this time the bounce is for real means I might well have to pay more than current price. But I prefer to miss the start of the bounce, and try to get in when the share price rises continue.

Also Geiger Counter sub shares are currently overvalued so it may well be possible to buy GCS around current price even with GCL price higher than now.... unless some are willing to pay over the odds to get in now.

It's each to their own. btw whoever is giving a down tick to sensible posts here pointing out possible negatives could be making the common ADVFN popular bb mistake of only wanting to know the plus case. All shares have plus and minus points. Those prepared to consider investments from all angles tend to do much better.

kenmitch
02/5/2018
15:27
Cameco is the sector BELLWEATHER.

It is up another 3% so far today.

(Goodness only knows why Geiger reduced their Cameco exposure last month).

Energy Fuels also up 6.5% to-day

Remember the Kazakhs want to float this year and they will need a strong market to launch into.

Also World Nuclear News "Cautious Optimism for uranium outlook" which for the highly conservative WNN is pretty bullish:

hXXp://www.world-nuclear-news.org/UF-Cautious-optimism-for-uranium-outlook-3004187.html


Indeed, there have been many false starts. But sooner or later we'll be off to the races for proper.

Good Luck All.

ALL IMO. DYOR.
QP

quepassa
02/5/2018
14:06
GCL currently trading at a discount to NAV.
ih_374139
02/5/2018
10:49
Myretirementfund/Kenmitch- I respectfully advice you to read Cameco's annual report. Then you'll know it's not the same old, same old. On the contrary, a lot of developments only occured recently.

Kenmitch- Great if you can time it perfectly. I can't, never been really good at it. I've made money based on fundamentals though and I believe they've never been better. The money inflow in URA ETF has been very impressive last months while uranium shares haven't really done well. I feel/think smart money is moving in. Don't mind having overpaid a little as I believe you truly have to watch it like a hawk because if U takes off it really is going to take off.

Ken/Bmc- In theory the subscription shares are overvalued imo. I do have some anyway because I seldomly get a quote for them. I hope I can increase substantially (swap for GCL) when the subscription shares have intrinsic value.

greedfear
02/5/2018
09:54
I agree that buying sub shares right now seems premature. If the bear market persists, they should drop in price, and may present an opportunity. I would be a buyer at much lower prices, or if there was a sustained upturn in U price, but not right now
bmcb5
02/5/2018
09:29
greedfear.

Agree with most of that. And yes, very high chance that uranium shares will do well at some point. Some of these bullish points have applied for ages but still the uranium price remains stuck at rock bottom levels. Until that changes uranium sector upside looks limited.

It's timing. I'm watching like a hawk, but aside from my free sub shares am out of Geiger Counter for now as dead money in uranium shares looks much better employed elsewhere.

Geiger Counter subs and their ordinary shares were my most successful investment ever. I sold out on the day of the terrible Japanese earthquake and tsunami. Have been in an out since then, either for a small profit or small loss. Each time I bought back it proved too soon. I'll be back in again at some point but not yet.... and if past few years anything to go by when buying back it could again prove to be too soon!

As for the sub shares. Yes downside and risk of 100% loss if share goes down instead of up. BUT if buying coincides with the long awaited uranium upturn (as it luckily did with the last lot of Geiger Counter subs) then upside could be multi bagging again. Last time ahead of the bounce Geiger Counter subs fell to just 0.85p to buy and I was lucky getting some at that price. Hoping that current subs will drop a lot further as until the sector turns the lower they go the better!

It's all down to timing. The uranium bounce could come soon or could still be years away (and so too late for sub shares). There have been false dawns galore and when those with long and successful experience of the sector join in here again, that could be the time to buy. Now? imo NO.

kenmitch
02/5/2018
09:27
I'm afraid I'm in agreement with Kenmich. Imagining prices will suddenly rise seems a false dawn.Camco tells you everything you need to know about the market.It's the same old story with uranium mining organisations beating the same old drum about production squeezes brought about with the lack of investment in uranium miners in recent years feeding through etc.....but they would say they wouldn't they And they have been saying the same thing for, well forever and always will as that's their job.
my retirement fund
02/5/2018
08:47
Why would anyone be bullish?

Just to name a few:

-demand is greater than currently produced;
-demand will increase yoy (japanese reactors starting up, new reactors under construction coming online);
-producers like Cameco, Kazatomprom, Paladin (?) cutting back on production;
-US department of energy has quitted selling uranium on the spot market;
-Cameco and Kazatomprom (?) actively starting to trade on the uranium spot market;
-Russian parliament voting on quiting uranium deliveris to US;
-US highly dependent on foreign uranium deliveries (only 2% locally produced), US energy for 20% dependent on uranium)
-US producers filled 232 petition (locally produced uranium is a national safety issue)
-a lof of nuclear energy companies contracts are ending, they’re going to need to close new contracts;
-no new investments in uranium producing (not economically viable, current spot 21 all in proding costs 35-40 at least for low cost producers). This will only increase the problem that (growing) demand exceeds supply;
I could go on and on .....

greedfear
02/5/2018
08:29
There are times that you can not comprehend why other people don’t see what is so obvious. I strongly feel (know) this is the moment.
Once in a lifetime? Probably not. Years of investing has tought me that there are always “once in a lifetime opportunities”. A great risk-reward ratio for sure.
(Still feel like there will be uranium shares out there that have incredible potential (100x +, 1,000x+ lol).

greedfear
02/5/2018
08:23
Sub shares do look to be the more exciting way to play this, but the downside is obviously much greater, especially if the current bear market persists. I have my freebies, but haven't put any real cash into those
bmcb5
02/5/2018
08:21
All fair points Kenmitch. I'm bullish long term, but have no expectation for quick gains here. I agree, it could be dead money for ages. Personally, i'm ok with that, as part of a portfolio
bmcb5
02/5/2018
08:16
I've lost count of the number of times in recent years that hopes have been high for another good run for uranium and uranium shares. Each time it failed to happen. The best guide for when it will is not bullish posters on this bb but the monthly fact sheet from the one Investment Trust in the sector, Geiger Counter. Here's their latest one issued at the end of March.



When they turn bullish then so will I. The last time they were really bullish was just ahead of a great run up for the share price from similar levels to now to around 130p. And the Geiger Counter subscription shares that some of us had great fun with, rose from under 1p to over 50p just ahead of expiry date.

IF the recovery in uranium price (uranium price is the key thing that matters most) comes in time, then again the sub shares will prove a great way to play it.

But why would anyone want to be heavily in to uranium shares right now? Yes downside looks very limited but it could also be dead money for ages.

kenmitch
02/5/2018
08:14
MRF - yes, they cut production. They were forced sellers into a market at below production cost. Now, they are sitting on that resource while the rest of the market continues to sell low. That supports the longer term valuation for Cameco.

And the production cut brings the market into a better supply/demand balance, which should support U price. Demand will increase as Japanese units start back up, and there are myriad construction projects in various stages across the middle and far east.

Of course, none of this means the U price HAS to rise. It's not a very liquid or transparent market. But I'm comfortable that it surely can't fall much below current price.

As pointed out above, there are some good links posted by @Quakes99 on twitter, if you wanted more background.

bmcb5
02/5/2018
08:03
I sense that the stars are beginning to align for the bull run. But I'm not getting excited, yet.

I try very hard to avoid thoughts such as 'once in a lifetime' etc, but for me, the risk/reward is compelling. Downside maybe 30% in extreme case (and only if forced to liquidate short term), but more likely the downside is maybe 10-20%? Upside, well, who knows?

I'm starting to think my 60%+ weighting is not enough :-) But I am also heavily in cash at the moment. That means i can be patient with the investment.

Steve - UR does look a bit strange. I guess it gapped down at open, but i haven't looked at intraday charts

bmcb5
02/5/2018
07:58
Why would Ur!nium be in the up?Alsi didn't camco actually cut production ?
my retirement fund
02/5/2018
07:33
gf... of course.. my mistake.. so it makes it even more surprising that we've been knocked back so much recently.

But it looks a little better so far today.

btw - UR's chart in the header looks strange.. How can it show a white candle below the previous day's white candle...?

steve73
02/5/2018
07:27
People are starting to pick up on the story. Still very, very early days. We’re going to see stellar gains on uranium shares. So many positives for the uranium shares going on.
greedfear
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