Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[petroc] 06/3/2023 11:11

'And yet another misleading post by Petroc. Just like all his posts he omits relevant information to deliberately try to deceive others.'

Only misleading to a thicko like you, LiarBO. Everyone else can see that I've posted a link which is where the full facts are. Are you admitting then that every post you make which contains a link (every post, in other words) you omit relevant information because you only post the link without a full synopsis of what it contains? Hahahaha! That's an admission that you deliberately try to deceive others, but that won't come as a surprise to anyone! You are an absolute hypocritical and lying fool! LOL! ROFLMAO! PMSL! etc...

[lbo] 06/3/2023 10:29

How many times now have the dates been changed on Farmaline? And now no date is being given by Farmaline and when asked why no date is being given anymore the wholesalerr has said because they do not have the stock. So why didn't they say when they will have the stock by and give that date!?And why is there is no stock when for years they have been saying 'MED3000 manufacturing capabilities expanded in August 2021' and ˜ Manufacturing scale up and capacity' is ˜progressing well''Futura will remain Legal Manufacturer(1) and be responsible for supply of MED3000'1) Legal manufacturer means the organisation responsible for the design, manufacture, packaging and labelling of a device before it is placed on the market under that organisation's own name, regardless of whether these operations are carried out by that organisation or on its behalf by a third party contract manufacturer

[lbo] 06/3/2023 10:19

Just confirming the multi-ID ramper doesn’t comprehend the significance of looking for a ‘Human Factors study’

Futura admitted Men with co-morbidities were not screened out by the self diagnosis process in the real world test? Like they said would normally have happened in the clinical setting. So they are admitting that self diagnosis of ED can fail in the real world Leading to very inappropriate treatment with just an OTC placebo gel product. This could have very dangerous consequences for patients. If the use of MED3000 OTC. Marketed as ‘clinically proven’ to treat all ED not just psychogenic. This could lead some men who use MED3000 OTC with no appropriate assessment to delay in seeking a proper evaluation of the real and more serious underlying causes of their ED. Which then possibly is factor which ultimately contributes to their death. Is treating ED with a placebo for months safe instead of treating the real underlying problem like excessive alcohol drinking? Or appropriately assessing the undiagnosed and untreated high blood pressure?

[lbo] 06/3/2023 10:15

https://www.ausdoc.com.au/news/tga-rejects-sildenafil-otc-application-0 Without medical diagnosis of the cause of the erectile dysfunction and of any potentially underlying serious medical conditions (such as CVD and diabetes), the risks associated with self-treatment of erectile dysfunction outweigh the benefits

[petroc] 06/3/2023 10:14

If someone dies after using Eroxon, it will be from something else, not the Eroxon. That is a universal problem with ED treatments as you keep telling us, LiarBO. Another condition may be masked by using the ED treatment, which may kill the patient.

However, in the case of Viagra, the patient may die because of the medication causing a stroke. 'The little blue kill: Man, 41, dies of stroke after taking Viagra on heavy night of drinking'.

[petroc] 06/3/2023 10:02

'He also consumed two 50mg grams of sildenafil that night.

This is twice the recommended dose for most men, according to the NHS.

Dr Narayan Pandit and colleagues said recreational use of sildenafil without prescription was a growing problem and said the drug should be added to the screening tests done to determine case of death.' FACT

[lbo] 06/3/2023 10:00

So why does Cooper not want to be held ‘legally responsible’ for labelling of a device before it is placed on the market under that organisation's own name, regardless of whether these operations are carried out by that organisation or on its behalf by a third party contract manufacturer.

‘Futura will remain Legal Manufacturer’

‘Legal manufacturer means the organisation responsible for the design, manufacture, packaging and labelling of a device before it is placed on the market under that organisation's own name’

Men with co-morbidities were not screened out by the self diagnosis process in the real world test?

Like they said would normally have happened in the clinical setting.

So they are admitting that self diagnosis of ED can fail in the real world Leading to very inappropriate treatment with just an OTC placebo gel product.

This could have very dangerous consequences for patients. If the use of MED3000 OTC. Marketed as ˜clinically proven’ to treat all ED not just psychogenic.

This could lead some men who use MED3000 OTC with no appropriate assessment to delay in seeking a proper evaluation of the real and more serious underlying causes of their ED. Which then possibly is factor which ultimately contributes to their death. So Cooper have left all the liability with Futura shareholders!




The science of placebos is fueling quackery

The placebo effect is real. So are the ethical conundrums posed by those who would exploit

Placebos do not cure


Herein lies the major liability risk for Futura marketing a placebo medical device ED gel of highly questionable efficacy. Yet claiming it is claiming it is ‘clinically proven’ to treat a very complex DISEASE like Erectile Dysfunction. Especially when Futura cannot even substantiate that claim with any adequately controlled studies.


‘Self diagnosed consumers’

‘The big exception we saw here’

‘in men with co-morbidities’

‘Which normally would be screened out in a clinical setting’


European Court of Justice to Clarify Liability for Medical Device

[petroc] 06/3/2023 09:59

'And yet another misleading post by Petroc. Just like all his posts he omits relevant information to deliberately try to deceive others.'

Only misleading to a thicko like you, LiarBO. Everyone else can see that I've posted a link which is where the full facts are. Are you admitting then that every post you make which contains a link (every post, in other words) you omit relevant information because you only post the link without a full synopsis of what it contains? Hahahaha! That's an admission that you deliberately try to deceive others, but that won't come as a surprise to anyone! You are an absolute hypocritical and lying fool! LOL! ROFLMAO! PMSL! etc...

[petroc] 06/3/2023 09:52

Sugar coat it all you like, LiarBO, but this man died because he took Viagra. Nobody is going to die because they use Eroxon. FACT.

[lbo] 06/3/2023 09:21

And yet another misleading post by Petroc. Just like all his posts he omits relevant information to deliberately try to deceive others.

‘on heavy night of drinking’

‘consumed twice the usual dose of sildenafil’

‘man, who had high blood pressure’

‘Tests after his death showed his blood alcohol level was more than twice the legal UK driving limit’

‘Investigations found the man did not have a prescription for sildenafil’

‘Authors said they published the case to raise awareness about the risks of taking the erectile dysfunction medication without medical advice’

Which is what’s going to happen with Med3000/Eroxon as it will lead men to delay seeking appropriate assessment of the real underlying cause of their ED for up to 6 months!



If you have a medical condition you may need to speak to a doctor to discuss your condition to see if the product is suitable for you to use.
MED3000 will come with a leaflet part of which will cover warning and precautions and recommend users have a check-up with your doctor as soon as possible within the first 6 months of using MED3000 to ensure that any erection problems are not caused by another serious health condition.


But no mention by the multi-ID ramper of all the benefits associated with Sildenafil when it is used appropriately and safely by millions of men every day around the world.

The little blue pill really is magic! Men with erectile dysfunction who take Viagra are 25% less likely to suffer an early death than those who don't.





Patients taking the male impotence drug were found to have a lower risk of having a heart attack or dying from heart failure than those not on the medication.



Viagra could help men to live LONGER: Blue pill prolongs life and prevents heart attacks in males with coronary artery disease, study finds



Taking Viagra halves the risk of men who suffer from type 2 diabetes dying from heart problems




Viagra and other erectile dysfunction drugs may reduce risk of death from colon cancer by 20%



A Viagra study also showed using a placebo was also just as likely to harm you. It compared some 4,500 patients taking the drug to about 3,100 on placebo. So based on that study Med3000 even as a placebo is just as likely to harm you as viagra

Millions and millions of men have used Viagra safely over many many years. So thats billions of doses taken. Yet its only linked to a few deaths. More men die from deaths associated with medical devices which Med3000 is. And even placebo gels like MED3000 claiming to be a treatment for ED with no appropriate assessment will be associated with deaths and thousands of reports of side effects if it ever manages to be even used by enough men over time. Even a man uses a placebo gel like Eroxon but who has an underlying condition like high blood pressure and drinks heavily yet delays getting appropriate could be associated as it was available OTC could result in a fatal outcome.

The objective data over many years of use. After appropriate assessment and correct use has proven Viagra to be effective and safe. Viagra has a well-established efficacy and tolerability profile. From its introduction in 1998 to 2016, over 64m men worldwide were treated with sildenafil citrate. 'The safety profile of sildenafil citrate is based on over 9,570 patients in 74 double blind placebo-controlled clinical studies as well as postmarketing surveillance that has been gathered over 10 years.' And correlation is not causation. Meanwhile there is no medium and long term safety data on Med3000 use in the real world.

[petroc] 06/3/2023 08:40

Looks like Mike the bike was right all along, and LiarBO wrong again!