Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[lbo] 28/2/2023 23:31

Unlike the ramper just ramping anonymously and misleadingly on bulletin boards. The FTC will have real jurisdiction on any false and misleading claims from the legal manufacturer in the real world!



In terms of advertising and promotion, for most over-the-counter medical devices, the FDA and FTC exercise joint regulatory authority over product labelling and advertising. The FDA has primary jurisdiction over labelling for all medical devices and advertising for restricted devices (typically Class III), while FTC has primary jurisdiction over advertising of unrestricted medical devices (Class I and most Class II devices). The FDCA prohibits the distribution or receipt in interstate commerce of a misbranded medical device, which includes a device bearing false or misleading labelling. Claims in device labelling, including product websites, that are outside the scope of the device cleared uses can misbrand, and even adulterate the device, another prohibited act under the FDCA

There is zero non deficient evidence to substantiate Med3000 works beyond a placebo gel or even an arousal gel made of the same alcohol, water, glycol and carbomer ingredients in any adequately controlled and blinded study



Administrative Law Judge Upholds FTC's Complaint that POM Deceptively Advertised Its Products erectile dysfunction claims were false and unsubstantiated because the study on which the company relied did not show that POM Juice was any more effective than a placebo.

[petroc] 28/2/2023 21:18

No comment on your relationship with Ron Jeremy then, LiarBO? Can't say I'm surprised, but if you're going to post links like that you should be aware that someone might actually open one!

[lbo] 28/2/2023 21:13

Petroc is yet again a proven liar. No matter how many multi-IDs he uses all over the internet to try pump Futura. He also lied when he said the evaporative cooling effect of Dermasys could not be replicated! The ramping liar can try childish tactics all he wants to try deflect but it cannot filter one real fact. That everytime he posts a false or misleading claim. He has been repeatedly proven to be again and again to be a liar! LOL

petroc - 20 Feb 2020 - 10:14:36

PDT, as Dermasys has been Futura's core product for several years, and upon which they base their marketing strategy, I very much doubt that it's easy to replicate faithfully or legally. Besides, there are many "wonder creams" out there that claim to do the job,(a friend tells me), and yet research still continues for something that actually does.




We are not going to progress on this particular compound for normal commercial reasons which we do not wish to go into, GSK said



The Company has conducted initial literature and in vitro based research that has shown the cooling from the evaporation of these specific combinations of solvents




The cooling effect of a topically applied product can be evaluated using a validated handheld thermal imaging system. When the gel matrix is destroyed after application to the skin, the bound water and alcohol evaporates and a measurable cooling-effect results.

Voltaren vehicle gel application resulted in a rapid reduction of skin surface temperature by 5.1°C after only 3 min



There is a risk that some claims will either be challenged in future (eg on the grounds of non-obviousness or existence of prior art) and/or that another technology may be employed to achieve a similar effect. The protracted development times mean the clock has been ticking on the original issued patents, reducing the protected commercial product

[petroc] 28/2/2023 21:01

'Just like all the Petroc misleading claims posted as FACTS’ on ADVFN but given with no disclaimers! Oh dear who has dug a whole on many days with those posts! LOL'

I think you need some more lessons with your EFL tutor, LiarBO. Perhaps we'll understand you then.

[lbo] 28/2/2023 19:27

Deep down Joe and Mike also really know (presumably in the same wonderland magic place of make believe that the placebo gel also has a disputed CIVD magic effect) have admited to the real true FACTS! LOL

But why let the ‘FACTS’ stand in the way of ‘a form of fraud’. Come on multo-ID rampers! Ramp it till it makes it or at least to the point you dump after the pump and have ‘moved on’ as the lack of real meaningful revenue from an arousal gel with no enforceable patent due to obviousness and prior art fails to materialise to substantiate a market cap of over £160m





JoeStalin - 30 Sep 2019 - 10:07:37 - 5937 of 10774
FUTURA a winner for 2015 - says it all!


JoeStalin - 18 Jul 2018 - 09:00:46 - 4354 of 10775
'jam tomorrow' is a very easy promise to make.


JoeStalin - 22 Jun 2018 - 14:12:24 - 4288 of 10775
What's another year after all?
At FUM, time is measured in decades.


JoeStalin - 25 Apr 2018 - 16:07:34 - 4147 of 10775
There seems to be an unlimited number of ways of saying "Jam tomorrow".


JoeStalin - 21 Mar 2018 - 13:50:44 - 3985 of 10775
A lifestyle company, but not for the shareholders.

mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 14:35:10 - 4072 of 11141

Having had similar waffling, 'smoke-screen' answers from Mr Barder over the years which have turned out to end in exactly nothing I am loathe to give any credence to virtually everything he says

mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:58:28 - 4091 of 11141

Company is massively over valued if you go by 'concrete' results !

mikethebike4 - 11 Apr 2018 - 15:14:56 - 4082 of 11141

I only try and bring some sort of balance into the equation to help the gullible not get carried away with fanciful future projections.
I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong about Mr Barder (our CEO since 2001) and to sale away into the sunset grasping 5 times as many £s in my fist as I paid for the shares
Unfortunately for people like J7J, Mr Barder has been through this advisors process before - with CSD500 - and look where we've got in 17 years - sales of the product did not even equal the money we paid him to be our CEO for 2017 !

mikethebike4 - 06 Dec 2017 - 10:32:27 - 3468 of 10591

"A couple of decent deals and will be back off to the races."
Do you have any idea of how long shareholders have been using these words

mikethebike4 - 23 Mar 2017 - 09:52:33 - 2560 of 10591

As someone who has been invested for many years and who attended an AGM years ago and complained to Barder about the very slow progress, I am very frustrated.
All the time the Board are drawing good salaries off the backs of shareholders money they have very little incentive to get off their backsides and get 'selling' - thats what running a company is all about at the end of the day!

mikethebike4 - 24 Feb 2020 - 09:11:58 - 7290 of 9713

why should it be any different this time when you've still got the same useless lot running the show

mikethebike4 - 07 Jan 2019 - 11:22:52 - 4692 of 9641

I repeat I very much hope you are right - no one would be happier than me if you are - however I stupidly (in hindsight) bought in when everything looked really rosy - we were told there were loads of 'distributors' all 'champing at the bit to get selling a wonderful industry disruptive product (which it still is incidentally) once the 2 year shelf-life problem was fixed. This was despite the fact that the Holland/Belgium distributor was quite happy and successful selling them with the original 18 months shelf-life
And where are we now years later - one tiny distributor from which Futura receives a total sales income only just about covering Mr Barders employment remuneration
I just hope this MED/TPR situation is not just a repeat of CSD. As to why I don't just sell up, well my shareholding is worth such a tiny proportion of what I paid for it I might just as well hang on in the hope that new shareholders getting in now are luckier than I was and I can get some of my money back - I think what we need is Mr Barders retirement - that should give the share price a kick

[petroc] 28/2/2023 19:07

Have you got Ron Jeremy down in your hole with you, LiarBO? You were posting links about him earlier on Twitter, and his massive investment in FUM, so perhaps you two are enjoying some mano o mano time down there! Perhaps sharing tips on which arousal gel to choose! Perhaps a little fluffer action for you! Don't fancy your chances if he gets his hands on some real Eroxon though!

[lbo] 28/2/2023 19:06

Seems I am still waiting for Petroc the proven liar to substantiate at least one of his false and misleading claims with some non deficient evidence. So please show where on the the Eroxon packaging or where in the patent. Futura is claiming like he has implied that it has formed a completely different chemical property with a completely different molecular structure akin to how hydrogen peroxide is formed is being formed in Eroxon from the alcohol, water, glycol and carbomer ingredients?

The silence as usual on that front is deafening!!! Unlike his silence on what he claims constitutes his self professed proficiency at what constitutes literacy or typos! ROFLMAO




petroc - 16 Feb 2023 - 21:38:39 - 16405 of 16628

Yes, 'water and Hydrogen Peroxide have completely different molecular structures and they have very different chemical properties.' And yet they have the same ingredients - just like Eroxon and Sta-hard, Stallion, KY jelly, axle grease, and everything

[lbo] 28/2/2023 18:53

And yet more evidence from a multi-ID ramper that rubbing a placebo gel on rampers forehead does not indeed give them any psychic ability! ROFLMAO

But I suppose its a welcome change from the usual lack of substantiation evidence that Med3000/Eroxon is having any effect beyond just an arousal gel would in similar deficient tests!

LOL

[petroc] 28/2/2023 18:47

Well they certainly burnt your cash when you amateurishly invested more than you could afford to lose in CSD500, LiarBO. Was it the 'jam tomorrow' that you were pursuing? No wonder you're so bitter and twisted now that everyone has ignored you and are busy making money from FUM. Even Truant might if he times his fantasy short right!

[lbo] 28/2/2023 18:34

Or maybe on news of the next Co-HIgh/Atlantis type death spiral finance deal like they did in China!?

They do seem to be still burning shareholders cash in pursuit of the jam tomorrow long term sustainable brand. Spending thousands to be able to just get a poster presentation is money well spent!? And what were thise initial upfront payments again booked in the last few results after all the positive licensing deals!? Oh yeah Zero revenue! Those initial upfront payments did seem to disappear down the rampers massive hole of silence too! Or maybe the rampers can dig up the missing €1 somewhere!? But at least Petroc will have a happy Eroxon day soon when it finally goes on sale on Farmaline. So he can rub some on his ears to also give placebo relief to his selective psychogenic cochlear dysfunction too! While Reckitt carry out their one adequately controlled study against one of their own similar alcohol, water, glycol and carbomer arousal gels! ROFlMAO



Eroxon - 7.920€




The royalty and the royalty advance may be reduced by such amount (if any) as is agreed or determined by an expert to be fair and reasonable if: (i) any patent application does not proceed to grant or any patent rights are determined to be unenforceable or are revoked or lapse; or (ii) an event occurs which in LRC reasonable opinion adversely affects the commercial viability of the licence agreement or the margins on sales of the Product; or (iii) a competing product is offered

[petroc] 28/2/2023 18:29

YOU'LL HAVE TO SPEAK UP, LIARBO! I CAN'T HEAR YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF THAT MASSIVE HOLE YOU'VE DUG FOR YOURSELF TODAY!

[lbo] 28/2/2023 17:29

And yes I am still waiting for Petroc the proven liar to substantiate at least one of his false and misleading claims with some non deficient evidence. So please show where on the the Eroxon packaging or where in the patent. Futura is claiming like he has implied that it has formed a completely different chemical property with a completely different molecular structure akin to how hydrogen peroxide is formed is being formed in Eroxon from the alcohol, water, glycol and carbomer ingredients?

The silence as usual on that front is deafening!!! Unlike his silence on what he claims constitutes his self professed proficiency at what constitutes literacy or typos! ROFLMAO




petroc - 16 Feb 2023 - 21:38:39 - 16405 of 16628

Yes, 'water and Hydrogen Peroxide have completely different molecular structures and they have very different chemical properties.' And yet they have the same ingredients - just like Eroxon and Sta-hard, Stallion, KY jelly, axle grease, and everything else

[lbo] 28/2/2023 17:18

Interesting you didn’t say the same about your other multi-ID semi literate ‘mews’ post earlier!? Or maybe it was just another one of your multi-ID ‘coy/paste’ typos! One rule for one multi-ID ramper and another rule for of the other multi-IDs? But who can keep up as you are so busy logging in and out all over the internet with all your mutii-IDs! Happy still no Eroxon day indeed! Any update on when stock may be available on Farmaline? Reckitt can’t wait to carry out a direct blind efficacy comparison study with one if its arousal gels!!!

ROFLMAO



The Berkshire Hathaway CEO went on to say shorting overvalued stocks is also tricky because "people that have overvalued stocks... Are frequently on some scale between promoter and crook. And that's why they get there." He went on to add:

"And they also know how to use that very valuation to bootstrap value into the business, because if you have a stock that's selling at 100 that's worth 10, obviously it's to your interest to go out and issue a whole lot of shares. And if you do that, when you get all through, the value can be 50.

In fact, there's a lot of chain letter-type stock promotions that are sort of based on the implicit assumption that the management will keep doing that.

because if you have a stock that's selling at 100 that's worth 10, obviously it's to your interest to go out and issue a whole lot of shares. And if you do that, when you get all through, the value can be 50.

And if they do it once and build it to 50 by issuing a lot of shares at 100 when it's worth 10, now the value is 50 and people say, "Well, these guys are so good at that. Let's pay 200 for it or 300," and then they could do it again and so on"

According to Buffett, if you get caught up in one of these stock promotion schemes,"you can run out of money before the promoter runs out of ideas."



˜Because when somebody is running something that is semi fraudulent. They are probably pretty good at it. And they are working full time at it’