Futura Medical Share Discussion Threads

[lbo] 22/2/2023 14:13

The ramper is implicitly suggesting that there is "loads of evidence' that Med3000/Eroxon works beyond a similar placebo arousal gel would! The rampers claim is false and misleading. And the FM57 study was not a study on the Med3000 placebo gel. It was trial designed to study another product Med2005. The ramper has not appropriately qualified any of this when he makes false and misleading claims like 'load of evidence'https://www.naturalproductsinsider.com/claims/ftcs-view-claims-substantiationIf an advertiser expressly states or implicitly suggests a certain level of scientific evidence exists, it must have at least that level of evidence. So, statements like clinically proven or scientifically shown" require at least one or more clinical trials to support the claim. Additionally, an advertiser should not suggest a clinical trial has been conducted on the product if the study relied upon was conducted on a single ingredient or on another product. In such cases, the claim must be appropriately qualified to make the subject of the clinical trial clearthe 'gold standard' is a well-designed, double-blinded, placebo-controlled clinical trial appropriately conducted on the actual product. FTC has often required this standard in consent decrees, requiring two such studies for future claims made by companies governed by such decrees. Of course, these studies do not come cheaply, and most companies have not conducted such a studyhttps://www.bipc.com/operation-cbdeceit-ftc-cracks-down-on-false-and-misleading-cbd-advertisingIn each of the six cases filed, FTC alleged that the companies not only lacked scientific substantiation for their claims regarding the health benefits of their CBD/CBG products, but also falsely represented that their claims were either scientifically proven or had been confirmed by the U.S. government.Under the proposed orders settling FTC complaints in each of these cases, the companies and their owners are prohibited from making prevention, treatment, or safety claims similar to the ones the companies made about their products about any dietary supplements, foods, and drugs unless they have the human clinical testing to substantiate such claims, and are required to have competent and reliable scientific evidence for any other health-related product claims. Specifically, the testing must be: (1) randomized, double-blind, and placebo-controlled; and (2) conducted by researchers qualified by training and experience to conduct such testing. All of the companies must also notify consumers of the Commission’s order, and all but one of the companies will also be required to pay monetary judgments

[petroc] 22/2/2023 12:52

There's loads of evidence that Eroxon works. There's absolutely none that suggests it doesn't.

[petroc] 22/2/2023 12:11

'To substantiate the claims to the ASA, FTC and courts that med3000/Eroxon is having an effect beyond just an arousal gel...'

Hahahaha!

[petroc] 22/2/2023 12:10

LiarBO's turned up. Another day, another lie...

[lbo] 22/2/2023 12:08

'why would I need to show that'To substantiate the claims to the ASA, FTC and courts that med3000/Eroxon is having an effect beyond just an arousal gel would in an adequately controlled and blinded study. To substantiate that you are not misleading consumers into paying more for just an arousal gel made of the same alcohol, water, glycol and carbomer ingredients.https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00224499.2021.2024790Strengths and LimitationsAgain like other studies on other Futura products that have failed. A primary study limitation is that the FM71 test arms and the Consumer tests were unblinded and thus those assigned to use the Med3000 gel could have been influenced by placebo effect. That is men using the placebo med3000 gel were led to believe the Med3000 gel had potential for increased effect based on the flawed post hoc findings of FM57 and the fact it was being compared to oral Tadalafil in FM71. This would have primed the men to expect and notice more effect from using the gel in FM71 and in the consumer test.https://pocketdentistry.com/asa-ruling-on-orthoaccel-technologies-inc-ta-acceledent/Because the trial was not placebo-controlled the product had not provided adequate evidence to support the claim’˜concluded that the claim had not been substantiated and was misleading’On that point the claim breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1 (Misleading advertising), 3.7 (Substantiation) and 12.1 Medicines, medical devices, health-related products and beauty productshttps://www.asa.org.uk/rulings/pro-bono-bio-entrepreneur-ltd-a17-400871.htmlMed3000 was just the placebo in the FM57 study Therefore Futura had initially believed Med3000 had no therapeutic effect. The FM57 study did not set out to measure the efficacy of Med3000. The ASA will therefore consider that its reported effectiveness by Futura was a ‘post-hoc finding’ The CAP Code required that objective claims, including medical claims for a CE-marked medical device, be backed by evidence a certified Class IIb medical device. We understood that the device certification was granted by a body within the European Member States that had been designated to carry out conformity assessments under the Medical Device Directive had been used as the placebo treatment in that study, and therefore the researcher had initially believed it had no therapeutic effect. The trial did not set out to measure the efficacy its reported effectiveness by the advertiser was a post-hoc finding due to the risk of that being a false positive

[lbo] 21/2/2023 19:23

Seems to have cost thousands of Euros for a poster presentation?



Eroxon - 7.920€



Bias and Fraud

There are numerous biases in medical research that render evidence from such research systematically misleading. Some of these biases are exacerbated by conflicts of interest, including fantastic financial incentives. The most important biases in medical research include confirmation bias, design bias, analysis bias, and publication bias. Arguably, some forms of bias, such as publication bias, should be considered as fraud. The pervasiveness of bias in medical research justifies one of the premises of the master argument for medical nihilism. Medical research is malleable due to the many biases, and such malleability allows for the production of evidence that suggests medical interventions are effective, whether or not they are in fact effective.

And Cooper left all the risks with Futura shareholders from day 1

˜Futura will remain Legal Manufacturer(1) and be responsible for supply of MED3000 through its 3(rd) party contract manufacturer’

‘1) Legal manufacturer means the organisation responsible for the design, manufacture, packaging and labelling of a device before it is placed on the market under that organisation's own name, regardless of whether these operations are carried out by that organisation or on its behalf by a third party contract manufacturer’


And still no update on an enforceable patent on Med3000 which contains the same alcohol, water, glycol and
Carbomer ingredients has arousal gels already on the market.



The royalty and the royalty advance may be reduced by such amount (if any) as is agreed or determined by an expert to be fair and reasonable if: (i) any patent application does not proceed to grant or any patent rights are determined to be unenforceable or are revoked or lapse; or (ii) an event occurs which in LRC reasonable opinion adversely affects the commercial viability of the licence agreement or the margins on sales of the Product; or (iii) a competing product is offered

[lbo] 21/2/2023 19:15

Oh the Irony Joe! Its 2023 and you are still posting on the ‘FUTURA a winner for 2015 -says it all’ bulletin board. But you are now seemingly a ramper of a placebo medical device gel after all your negative posts over the many years of failures. Which actually says its you who has ‘no life’! ROFLMAO


JoeStalin - 30 Sep 2019 - 10:07:37 - 5937 of 10774
FUTURA a winner for 2015 - says it all!


JoeStalin - 18 Jul 2018 - 09:00:46 - 4354 of 10775
'jam tomorrow' is a very easy promise to make.


JoeStalin - 22 Jun 2018 - 14:12:24 - 4288 of 10775
What's another year after all?
At FUM, time is measured in decades.


JoeStalin - 25 Apr 2018 - 16:07:34 - 4147 of 10775
There seems to be an unlimited number of ways of saying "Jam tomorrow".


JoeStalin - 21 Mar 2018 - 13:50:44 - 3985 of 10775
A lifestyle company, but not for the shareholders.

[joestalin] 21/2/2023 19:07

It is taking him fewer than 5 minutes to respond with a negative comment. He must have no life.