Financial Dev Share Discussion Threads

[dubberboy] 01/9/2004 09:58

pomp one assumes you have had a vegas trip have you?

[pomp circumstance] 01/9/2004 09:48

'Ive got long hair and I like a bet'

:)))

[dubberboy] 01/9/2004 09:23

a winning haircut

[vision88] 31/8/2004 17:00

Pomp circumstance

I found you artical very interesting ,as for oops terry i mean vision i wished i had his balls that for sure, but your right on many points, as for loosing a lot in the past , hey who didnt, i certainly did, market forces ect, we are all in the same boat there, all most that is lol ,if your a broker they do have advantage over the average investor, But just look at Terry go again i think he has a winning smile dont you, lol

[pomp circumstance] 31/8/2004 16:13

Would these non payers be the same ones who didnt pay Hansard in the placing?

RNS Number:4512C
TradingSports Exchange Systems PLC
31 August 2004


TRADINGSPORTS EXCHANGE SYSTEMS PLC (the "Company")

RESULT OF EGM IN RELATION TO PROPOSED SUBSCRIPTION FOR 30,000,000 NEW ORDINARY
SHARES AT 15 PENCE PER SHARE

The Company announces that the necessary resolutions were passed at today's
extraordinary general meeting to enable the proposed subscription to proceed.
Funds, or satisfactory assurances regarding the imminent receipt of funds, have
been received from subscribers, including the largest investor, in respect of
23,333,333 shares, totalling #3,500,000.

The Company expects to proceed with the allotment of these shares and to apply
for admission of these shares to trading on AIM on 2 September 2004. Admission
is expected to become effective on 3 September 2004.

The Directors are continuing discussions in relation to the funds that have not
been received and will update shareholders in due course.

Whether or not any further funds are received and any further shares are
allotted, the Directors remain confident that, taking into account the proceeds
of the subscription, the Company has sufficient new capital to implement its
business strategy.

31 August 2004

[thunders] 31/8/2004 13:49

Sorry this is not my tip. I get them on my email. I didn`t buy but now I am holding all off them and waiting them to go back up to make some quick profit. I hope it will work. Last time i have ignore the tips and it really gone up. but now all of them came back down for me. so I can buy cheap!!!! Iboght at 32p now it is 42p. I am waiting for 92 p to sell.

[insiderboy] 31/8/2004 12:24

thunders

where was your CLY tip last week...........or today!!!

[thunders] 31/8/2004 12:15

4th August we recommended on UK-Analyst a company called Hansard -at 92p. We said that it was utterly speculative - it was. And as such we set a tight stop loss at 75p. That-regrettably - was triggered pretty soon. So the loss on that tip was an unpleasant 18.5%. But Hansard has a sister stock Caplay which we also tipped on WatsHot at 4p and a few weeks later we banked profits with sell advice at 18.25p - a 356% gain. Momentum trading is all about banking profits and cutting losses. Our overall gain on that pair trade was a net 338% achieved in the space of about 6 weeks. www.WatsHot.com has been attacked by a few idiots on Bulletin Boards (most BB users are very fair in their commentary) for calling this one badly - if a 338% gain in six weeks is bad trading then we can but apologise.

We first tipped ASOS on 10th January at 5.75p with an initial target price of 12.5p. The shares are now 57p but are still cheap! asSeenonScreen Holdings Plc was incorporated in June 2000 to acquire As Seen On Screen.com Ltd and Entertainment Marketing (UK) Ltd, the Group's current trading subsidiaries. As Seen On Screen, launched in the UK in 2000, retails clothing, accessories and lifestyle products over the web on its www.asos.com website which have been inspired by celebrities.

[dubberboy] 31/8/2004 09:52

just as matter of interest terry ramsden has owned a grand national winner, last suspect,,, so too has john moreton (rhyme and reason), john moreton owns (or did own) mullins bar just along from sandy lane and also owns a big villa in sandy lane and owns (or did) a hotel just along from sandy lane (treasure beach)

john moreton used to be a partner/owner in exaco ( i think)

[dubberboy] 31/8/2004 09:30

i would also guess that subject to creating the extra value they would then "roll" the land on a back to back contract

[dubberboy] 31/8/2004 09:25

i understand that griffin have exchanged on the option to buy the land, all this needs is an aption fee (can be any amount) with the promise of a large payment subject to x y and z.

this land was not a secret as such and one assumes that they have had to pay the going rate for it, the skill would be in negotiating to pay the owner an uplift if you can obtain a better planning result than the one that has been indicated.

[pomp circumstance] 31/8/2004 07:20

Dear Terry, ooops I meant vision, I wholeheartedly agree with you re liquidators, as for yourself, ooops I mean Terry, he's also lost alot of other peoples money!!

[merrickman] 28/8/2004 14:14

Mainsail/Paddy fool - sadly but possible maybe the recent share shanagins were all about raising the money to finance the deal - In simple terms Griffin does not have the money to finance the deal - hence Hansard buying Griffin (finace for the Land deal). One question that makes me curious why is Ramsden reversing Griffin into Hansard when they are a PR company and in fact Caplay and Trading Sports are the Investment / Cash shell vehicles and Ramsdens main holding and options are indeed in CAPLAY.

Still reviewing Hansard but suspect I may have missed boat at 26/28 last week - although sadly and foolishly I had caught the submarine before it left harbour and sank.

[paddyfool] 28/8/2004 10:35

mainsail A little research on land in Barbados will tell you that 215 acres of land in Barbados is not factored into FDCs price as we speak. Land on the coast in barbados can sell at over $1,000,000 per acre, this land abutts the coast and when developed will be worth several hundreds of miilions. The more Ramsden takes of FDC stock the more I can get towards understanding why he would back Griffin in here. The only reason I can come up with todate is that FDC may be a better vehicle from which to raise the development costs, and as a demonstatration from Ramsden to his funders that he can make things happen.

[shirishg] 28/8/2004 00:58

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[mainsail] 27/8/2004 22:33

Well at least the placing happened -although it was a pretty close call.

I suspect the Griffin acquisition may already be factored into the current price though. This was what was reported by Citywire back in June:-

"Hansard will acquire the property company Griffin Leisure, which is owned by Ramsden, for £300,000 worth of shares in the PR firm. The company owns a property development in Barbados."

But then this month AFX reported: -

"Hansard Group PLC said it agreed an option to acquire Griffin Leisure Ltd, which has exchanged contracts on 215 acres of land in the St. James region of Barbados"

Anyone have any more info?

[mohamed99] 27/8/2004 16:34

100 % +VE........................

[paddyfool] 27/8/2004 16:03

ah merrickman that is the question.

[merrickman] 27/8/2004 12:37

Prior to the 10 for 1 dilution market markers typically on 4p 5p spread between their bid/offer - now they are 1p working on pro rata 10p spread 25%.

I am intersted in taking a punt as all Hanssard need announce is Ramsden covered the short fall or ideally the original investors have coughed up. Then as paddyfool says if they announce Griffin and entered into profit share on developing Barbados plot or sold on these theorectically would rally. Only query why would Griffin PR company buy land - and why would Ramsden gift such a deal to Hansard via Griffin.

[thunders] 27/8/2004 11:42

Because When i got email to buy all i did is ignored and i was feeling bit unlucky at that time because price for hansard,tes and cly climbed to quick. so i stood back and surprise surprise they all came back to earth and now i am buying to make quick profit if they go up. Question is can they go up after all this fiasco??

[mohamed99] 27/8/2004 11:29

why did you not tell all this thing before lpy up 3 to 22 so tes ....and so hsd up 120