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Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
European Home LSE:EHR London Ordinary Share GB0001373736 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  0.00 0.0% 22.00 - 0.00 01:00:00
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Retailers 176.2 5.9 10.2 2.2 11

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
16/5/2006
00:02
Just for your information, the Kleeneze part of the business (door to door selling as you call it) is the most profitable part of the business. It has traded in profit since 1923, and continues to do so. Also, it has just moved into Germany, with further expansion into mainland Europe planned. This company is definitely undervalued. IMHO
skintvestor
15/5/2006
19:23
Good on you she-ra, You are showing that low life for what he really is a ramper thats lost countless invstors a lot of money. He makes so much of IND but look at all the dogs thats fallen away the list is lengthy. Its only a matter of time before IND goes the same way even the press agree its overvalued.
fusebox
15/5/2006
19:08
Not just bad its rotten to the core.
fusebox
15/5/2006
19:02
Looking BAD!
firenza3
15/5/2006
18:57
In dire straits as i predicted.
fusebox
15/5/2006
18:57
Beware of Paulypilot. Lots of his ramps crumbling. Particualry FWY INX. This dog has a lot further to fall.
fusebox
15/5/2006
18:49
She-ra, You said ... You say everything has its price but you thought that when Invox had a mkt cap of more than £55million where it now stands at £7.2 million unloved and in trouble. Yes that's perfectly true. So what ? As an investor, I get some investments right, and others wrong. The same is true of ALL investors. Invox was clearly one I got wrong, it happens. "it's not difficult to see these shares being a 4 or 5 bagger if management get it right." I love the way you dangle a carrot to the naive.Im sure you said the same with Invox. Ridiculous !! Again you assign some sort of imaginary motive to me, which exists only in your head. Can you not understand that I'm just expressing my opinions on a share, that's all. I wish you would add a caveat that if it doesnt (and it may not be its fault if it cant-i.e world economic slump,even China's looking wobbly) sort the problems out then this company could go to the wall. Why should I have to add any sort of caveat ? People can read the accounts, and make their own minds up. You talk as if investors are mindless lemmings, unable to make up their own minds on the merits of a particular share. You should have a bit more faith in your fellow investors, people are a lot more savvy than you seem to believe. Of course EHR is vulnerable to an economic downturn, as all companies are. In terms of its direct selling model, it could be argued that EHR is actually much more recession-proof than a bricks & mortar retailer (whose cost base is largely fixed, mainly rent+rates, plus semi-fixed wages costs). I used to be a retail FD, so understand this point better than most. EHR on the other hand has no such fixed cost base, as it operates through door-to-door agents, paid on commission. Personally I'm not that convinced about the long-term future of door-to-door selling - it's an outdated concept - people much prefer to buy things all in one go at Tesco/Asda. Naturally, if trading at EHR went badly wrong (which it has NOT done as yet, as far as we know), and the company racked up large losses, then yes I agree that there is nothing in the way of downside protection from the Balance Sheet. So in that scenario, you are perfectly correct to state that EHR could be vulnerable to going under. On the other hand, it could dispose of parts of the group to repay debt. The obvious route would be to IPO Kitbag.com and IWOOT. Both websites seem to be performing very well. The trading update mentioned Kitbag not being able to cope with demand at Xmas (from memory), which is a pretty good problem to have. To my mind, investing in these shares is not about pretending that this is a great company with great prospects. It's actually about weighing up the bad news, factoring in the possibility of more bad news, and then looking at what the upside might be if trading improves (and there were some positive signals in the last set of accounts). For me, at £24m mkt cap, the upside potential outweighs the downside risk. Clearly you disagree, that's what makes a market !! (and a bulletin board) Paul.
paulypilot
15/5/2006
18:33
Yes the gadget shop,quite similar to IWOOT was a rapidly growing company.It went bust. Ive looked at Kitbag and have looked in Sportsworld-a rapidly growing stable bricks and mortar operation and found Sportsworld to be cheaper-its hitting JJB!.I dont see the point in Kitbag.Its ranges are limited.It can never compete with the likes of JJB,JD Sports and Sportsworld.It is an unneccessary diversion for EHR. You say everything has its price but you thought that when Invox had a mkt cap of more than £55million where it now stands at £7.2 million unloved and in trouble. "it's not difficult to see these shares being a 4 or 5 bagger if management get it right." I love the way you dangle a carrot to the naive.Im sure you said the same with Invox.I wish you would add a caveat that if it doesnt (and it may not be its fault if it cant-i.e world economic slump,even China's looking wobbly) sort the problems out then this company could go to the wall.
she-ra
15/5/2006
17:17
paulypilot - Will we see some of the above in print tomorrow Pauly? They overpaid for Kitbag and IWOOT.However that is irrelevent now since we have rising fuel costs i.e transportation costs and an economy that is on the brink.If the last trading statement was bad what do you think it is going to be like when interest rates go up and house prices go down.Yes the feel good factor is about to disappear and EHR is not well suited to higher interest rates on a direct (debt) and an indirect (consumer) level. "but that only presents a problem if a company is loss-making, which this isn't." - 23 March 2006 EUROPEAN HOME RETAIL plc TRADING UPDATE "...it is expected that the Group will record a small loss before amortisation, exceptionals and tax for the year ending 30 April 2006."
she-ra
15/5/2006
16:55
She-ra. I've held 7% of IndigoVision since 2004. I'll leave you to do the sums. And can you please stop personalising everything. This board is here to discuss EHR, not my personal finances ! But if you sling (misinformed) mud at me, I'll sling it straight back at you mate. As for EHR, there is nothing whatsoever to suggest that it might go bust. Sure the Balance Sheet is fairly weak, but that only presents a problem if a company is loss-making, which this isn't. The current market cap is probably less than Kitbag.com & Iwoot.com are worth alone, with the rest of the business thrown in for free. The interesting thing with EHR is that the factors which caused the deterioration in profitability (e.g. trading losses at the Ezee TV) have already been dealt with, but will drop out into future results. So looking ahead, there is a perfectly sensible rationale for expecting a turnaround in profits. It may or may not happen, we'll just have to wait & see. Equally, the downside is that management might screw things up again & issue another profits warning. That's the call that we have to make as investors. I just think the current mkt cap is sufficiently low to make the risk worth taking, as there's considerable upside if profitability recovers. But there's no guarantee that profitability will recover, of course.
paulypilot
15/5/2006
16:21
Nice language Paulypilot.You ramping EHR has a lot to do with Invox.You buy shares in companies that have a lot of debt,a lot of problems and pump them with the aim of making money off lemmings following you on your moderated (propaganda!) message boards on ADVFN and The Motley Fool.People have followed your rampings and have lost a great deal of money. EHR has £7.5 million debt and net liabilities (NOT net assets.) Current trading is not good and they only expect to breakeven at best in 2007. This company cant afford slumping sales which I am sure are out of its control what with the economy and all.Not a good time to be expanding into Germany and continuing with a parochial (cash munching?) TV channel when the balance sheet looks unhealthy. One has to ask,why the big drop today?
she-ra
15/5/2006
15:41
Oh no Paulypilot and his dribble talk. You bought £250k's worth of Invox and are left 80% down as well as encouraging others to follow yourself. You lost people money and will continue to do so.Have you no shame. As for EHR has everyone seen the net liablities this company has?
she-ra
15/5/2006
15:26
Hi, I've just picked up another 30k @ 44p - seems extraordinarily cheap, given the growth prospects of Kitbag & IWOOT. Regards, Paul.
paulypilot
15/5/2006
13:27
It's certainly tempting.
wiganer
15/5/2006
13:26
Bargain of the century at this price!!!!
skintvestor
10/5/2006
18:35
Maybe you`re right. But it WILL bounce back. It always does!!!!! The Kleeneze arm of the business has been trading in profit every year since 1923.
skintvestor
10/5/2006
17:30
This will go lower soon.
fusebox
10/5/2006
08:21
bob hardy - 9 May'06 - 08:38 - 17 of 18 Now operational in Germany European Conference in Bonn 6-5-06 attended by 1000 distributors a great sucess.
skintvestor
10/5/2006
08:19
This will be up off the floor soon!!!!! IMHO
skintvestor
09/5/2006
08:38
Now operational in Germany European Conference in Bonn 6-5-06 attended by 1000 distributors a great sucess.
bob hardy
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