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[brucie5] 19/5/2019 14:18

Sortudo, did you make it to the AGM?

Re. Bayer, who knows. I'm hoping that it may have shocked them, and a few others out of their complacency around generic and monopolistic chemical solutions to food production.

[sortudo7] 18/5/2019 20:20

Since Bayer bought Monsanto its share price has fallen around 50% due its product (Roundup) troubles in US. I wonder if that may affect Bayer & Eden partnership somehow and the launch of their products...

[investingisatrickygame] 18/5/2019 18:56

Super,

Nice to see Anne Williams Global Product Manager Tomato/ Biotechnology @ Monsanto-Bayer offer some kind words of support to Sean Smith and the Eden Team.

"Great news guys - clear focus and a lot of hard work looks like it's paying off - Congratulations"

Intriguing that, isn't it!!!

[chrischas] 18/5/2019 17:53

The BOD hasn’t decided either. Not sure if they know anything past CSE Botany . The big question is will they give their new Hire any scope. Her CV suggests she is ready to open up Eden to flower with bid yellow petals in the plains

[supersonico] 18/5/2019 17:36

I'm suggesting that the cashcrop figures of $1,415,000 you refer to includes all Tomatoes. That will include Field grown tomatoes and Glass house grown tomatoes. As I understand it Cedroz will be used on the higher value Glass house portion of the tomato market.

I'm assuming Cedroz will not be commercially viable if applied to field grown tomatoes but could easily be talking Bananas.

My understanding is that Cedroz and Mevalone treat different symptoms so I'm not suggesting 'when you use one, you kill both.

[brucie5] 18/5/2019 16:25

Super: Ok, so something I'm not fully understanding here.

Mevalone is for Botrytis, aka grey mould.

Cedroz is for nematodes.

Are you saying when you use one, you kill both?

I was thinking it was a different formulation - surely- for different target pests? If so, don't we need some separate figures on the likely botrytis market for Mevalone, outside of viticulture and grapes?

I believe this is referred to in their most recent presentation as a 'label extension' - but without any solid figures to suggest specific market size, beyond the $4bn catch -all.

I'm sorry if I ask stupid questions.

[supersonico] 18/5/2019 14:58

I think the Numbers for the tomatoes will be split between indoor and outdoor field cultivation. Cedroz I assume will only be applied to the in glasshouse portion.

[brucie5] 18/5/2019 14:45

Yes, a shame Bayer's own 'hard work# doesn't seem to be benefiting the company much. As yet.

But given the importance of the tomato crop to vegetable production as a whole, it would be nice to see some modelling of how this - and other soft veg and fruit- builds of the $300m viticulture target size for 3aey.

According to this graph (on the right) tomatoes are a larger revenue crop than grapes. Which is hardly surprising given the amount of derivative uses for cooking. (Could anyone cook nowadays without tomatoes or onions?)
On this model, it's behind cannabis, wheat, maize, rice and soy, and only marginally behind potatoes.



Unless there's something I'm not understanding, and Mevalone cannot be extended to other veg, that $300m figure for mev on wine grapes, needs to be tweaked upwards.

[supersonico] 18/5/2019 14:30

Brucie5,

Your focus on the Tomatoes yesterday reminded me of one of the comments made on linkedin to Sean Smith following one of his Proactive Presentation.

I post the relevant bit again..

supersonico - 24 Jan 2019 - 22:58:25 - 5607 of 6304
Eden Research - EDEN
Proactive @ Eden ….Audience feedback..

Nice to see Anne Williams Global Product Manager Tomato/ Biotechnology @ Monsanto-Bayer offer some kind words of support to Sean Smith and the Eden Team.

"Great news guys - clear focus and a lot of hard work looks like it's paying off - Congratulations"

[supersonico] 18/5/2019 09:03

The Supersonico DOT report aka What SC don't mention ..news

Interesting times as the 'Bio rational' narrative is being pushed more publicly recently by Sumitomo staff on social media and Antoine Meyer of Sumiagro is out lining new Seipro products due Winter 19. This as Eden are expanding internal capabilities with the appointment of Felicity Lenyk as Product and Market Manager ..with EGTOP due for EU ratification thereby expanding Eden tech applications into Organic market..

Did you hear any of that at the AGM..? No! nor did I ..It must be All in my imagination then.. just like those parallel delays..

Biorational Research and Development Base in the U.S. Starts Operation

[supersonico] 18/5/2019 07:51

Why Modern IPM Should Take a Wider View of Key Influences

Ag&Natural Resources@ucanr

“Crop production is an art, a science, and an enterprise,” @calveggies writes. “IPM is an approach to manage pests in an economically viable, socially acceptable, and environmentally safe manner.” @EntsocAmerica

… @UCIP

[northwick] 17/5/2019 21:26

not long to go before Eastman gets to know if regulators in other European countries have granted permission for use of Cedroz apart from Portugal, which is known to be very slow.

[brucie5] 17/5/2019 20:33

You've got me started now. Almost one of four fresh vegetables produced by the EU is a tomato! (in 2014)

Get in!!!!



Production Of Tomato
In 2017, the worldwide production of tomatoes totaled 170.8 million tons. China, the leading producer of tomatoes, accounted for 31% of the total production. India and the United States followed with the second and third highest production of tomatoes in the world. In the European Union, tomatoes accounted for 23% of the total output of fresh vegetables in 2014. Of this, more than half was produced in Spain, Italy, and Poland. The global tomato exports the previous year was worth 88 billion USD.

[brucie5] 17/5/2019 20:29

supersonico
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Brucie,

Well as I see it .. no 1 application is Mevalone on Grapes which has label extensions for Green house Aubergines, Kiwis, Pomegranates and Onions.
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Tomatoes?

"The vegetable that is grown in the largest quantities worldwide is the tomato. Approximately 161.8 million tonnes of tomatoes were grown in 2012."

[supersonico] 17/5/2019 18:43

Brucie,

Well as I see it .. no 1 application is Mevalone on Grapes which has label extensions for Green house Aubergines, Kiwis, Pomegranates and Onions.

Sipcam also have a Post Harvest Apple product due out or for registration Winter/19

Cedroz .no 2.. covers Cucumbers, strawberries, melons, Aubergines, peppers and tomatoes.

I would assume use of both like you say will have widened usage over time.

I make that 11 specific key target crops not including Key applications for Molluscicides or insecticides for white fly / Red mites etc.

[brucie5] 17/5/2019 17:06

supersonico
17 May '19 - 11:16 - 6293 of 6295
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Team Building ..News
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Yes, that's good. So I wonder if this is new work she's taking on, or old work that's been delegated to her.

I've been interested by a small conversation started by farmboy on MW concerning the increase in number of key crops from one to more than ten. Of course Mevelone is already being used on kiwi fruit and Kenyan flowers (correct me if I'm wrong), and FB. was saying that until such time as there is a counterindication, it can simply be extended pretty much to any crop that is vulnerable to botrytis - for example tomatoes or carrots. In which case, how does this effect the target market size?

But perhaps there's another question as to what exactly was meant by the extension in number of 'key crops'... Surely more important is the 'key applications' - eg, botrytis being one, nematodes another, and molluscs a third...

[supersonico] 17/5/2019 16:54

Eden Research plc@edenresearch

'#Botrytis will infect grape berries from 53°F in as little as 4 hours of berry wetness.’ @OregonStateExt
Canopy management and a well timed fungicide programme are essential for control. #Mevalone = key part of #sustainable fungicide programmes.
#grapes #wine #viticulture #IPM

[supersonico] 17/5/2019 13:35

Vittorio Veronelli IBMA presentation Italian language with nice graphs and pictures in English and italian.

[supersonico] 17/5/2019 11:16

Team Building ..News

Eden Research plc@edenresearch

We are very pleased to welcome Felicity Lenyk as Product and Market Manager! Since receiving her first class honours degree in biology from the University of Bath she has worked in several segments of the agricultural inputs industry including seeds, Biostimulants and nutrition
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[supersonico] 17/5/2019 09:09

China News

Home News Current Draft version of Chinese Pesticide Surface Water Exposure Model (PSEM)
Draft version of Chinese Pesticide Surface Water Exposure Model (PSEM)



15 May, 2019

On May 5, 2019, the Institute Control of Agrochemicals, Ministry of Agriculture (ICAMA) released the draft version of the Chinese Pesticide Surface Water Exposure Model (PSEM) for public consultation.
The model is designed for estimating the pesticide concentrations in surface water after pesticide application to dryland crops.

It is derived from the model PWC by US-EPA, and further incorporates Chinese specific scenarios, crop calendars, and meteorological data, etc. In addition, the rules on Mutual Acceptance of Data (MAD) in the pesticide registration in China are likely to impact timelines for product registration in China and delay market-access plans.

Please feel free to contact our Regulatory team in China (Dr. Xiaohua He) if you need support to run the draft model and preliminary calculations to better understand the impact on your products or regarding the new development on Mutual Acceptance of Data (MAD) in the pesticide registration – we have the expertise, methods, and tools

[supersonico] 16/5/2019 17:44

Eden Research plc@edenresearch

Eden Research plc Retweeted The VI
The UK is placing more emphasis on Integrated Pest management. Eden Research provides proven #biological solutions to pest and disease management, which are already marketed with our commercial partners in Europe.

14 May 2019

VI Strategy updated to reflect the new focus on IPM to drive change in UK agriculture
Our mission is to be the UK’s primary delivery mechanism for promoting best practice in pesticide use through enhanced adoption of Integrated Pest Management (IPM) as defined by the Sustainable Use Directive in order to protect water and the environment.

[chrischas] 16/5/2019 17:24

I won’t say anymore than I have already said.