Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
Eco Animal Health Group Plc LSE:EAH London Ordinary Share GB0032036807 ORD 5P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -10.00 -4.65% 205.00 200.00 210.00 213.00 205.00 213.00 22,594 10:25:34
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
Pharmaceuticals & Biotechnology 74.6 15.2 17.6 11.6 138

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12/12/2016
13:01
Peel Hunt target price now 575p. Applying the same first half/second half ratios as last year and rembering that the drop in sterling applied only from late June it seems that the full year should see eps close to 16p. Fab' if it happens.
aimingupward2
12/12/2016
10:23
I note a small comment about tariff free trade in the announcement. Looking ahead to trump/brexit impact?
nfs
12/12/2016
08:47
Yes, fantastic results.
topvest
12/12/2016
08:07
Yes, all round but especially eps up 61% and dividend up 32%.
aimingupward2
12/12/2016
07:55
Impressive interims.
audigger
08/12/2016
21:54
I really appreciate the trouble you have taken in your reply, Au. Thank you. We'll exchange thoughts after the interims are out, no doubt - next week it now seems.
aimingupward2
08/12/2016
21:11
Would be strange if we didn't have interims by end of next week at latest. As for my bet, it's a little complicated but I have set a stop loss at 491 which means if the buy price hits that level my bet automatically closes. So using my £20 a point example I would lose 528-491 x 20 = 740 quid. However this amount of loss isn't guaranteed under circumstances where the share price is very volatile either due to general market volatility or major bad news for the company. If there is a dramatic fall in share price in one day, say £1,then my loss would be 100x 20 = £2000. This is why you have to stump up extra cash to secure you're bet. They call this a slippage factor and it's always higher for AIM shares that aren't particularly liquid. The same bet on BP, Lloyds or Rolls Royce would be much cheaper. In terms of profit you have a choice. You can set a level at which your bet automatically closes and you earn a known amount of profit or you can keep the bet open up to the expiry date. In this situation I would never set a level at which I close the bet with a pre-determined profit because I have absolutely no idea how much upside there could be especially if the company is taken over by a big player. If....and it's a big if, they were taken out at £10 per share whilst my bet is live then the profit would be 1000-538x20 = £9240. My realistic expectation is to make about £2000 but I am risking losing a minimum of £740 which is unlikely but possible. I'd be very surprised if there was a dramatic fall in share price and I lost £1800....but it's a possibility. I also own shares which I will keep for at least 10 years and hopefully will collect nice dividends along the way. I just don't have enough free cash right now to give me the exposure I want hence the spread bet.
audigger
08/12/2016
20:12
Interims tomorrow perhaps. Or next week at the latest, surely. Meanwhile, Au, is the £1800 returned to you if the selling price exceeds 600p? it's not a sunk cost that you have to bear, is it? And is the deal closed (a) the moment the nominated price, 600p in your case, is reached or (b) when the nominated expiry date arrives - whichever is the sooner. On can you run the price on and profit further? You say there is a risk of 'losing all one's money if the price moves against you', but only if it is below the nominated figure at the nominated closing date surely? In your case 600p by some date in June '17. What happens in between time is irrelevant isn't it? If so, I would have thought your risk level is pretty low. Anyway, fingers crossed for a good send off on your journey towards 600p. You just may reach it sooner than you dream.
aimingupward2
08/12/2016
07:51
The wait for the interims continues. Hopefully the £10 per share take-out deal is delaying matters! Good to dream!
audigger
07/12/2016
09:45
Thank you very much, Au, for taking the trouble to explain all that. Betting in that way doesn't appeal to me. I much prefer to invest in a company. Nevertheless, as I say, I do appreciate having a better understanding of how it works. I think a target of at least 600p by next June is very reasonable and so you should do well.
aimingupward2
07/12/2016
08:31
Now there's a question! Basically you bet an amount on every 1 pence (referred to as a 1 point) movement in the share price. You can bet on the price increasing (going long) or decreasing (going short). At the point at which you open the bet you incur a cost which is the spread in the share price. For EAH when I took out my bet this spread was 498 (sell price)-528 (buy price). Obviously I bet on an increase in share price so I "bought" at 528. This means I immediately incur a loss as the value of my bet is set at the sell price. Say I bet £20 per point on opening my bet the cost of the spread means I'm instantly £20 x 30 (the spread) down = £600. I need the sale price to increase above 528 to be in profit. Effectively a £20 bet gives you the same exposure as owning 2000 shares. To place the bet you need to stump up a deposit/margin which for a £20 bet is about £1800. This is considerably cheaper than what it would cost to buy 2000 shares at £5 (so-called leverage). The downside however, is that you can quite easily loose all your money if the price moves against you. You can manage this risk by setting a stop-loss; a price at which the bet is closed if it moves against you. My expectation is that by June 2017 the share price should be at least £1 higher than it is today (that's no more than a judgement call!) so if that happens with the £20 bet example, the profit is £2000. You can bet any amount from 50p to thousands of pounds. The higher the bet the higher your initial outlay. Its not for the faint-hearted and I would never bet with more than I could afford to loose because it can all disappear in an instant (unlike owning the shares where there is also the opportunity to hold out for a recovery.
audigger
06/12/2016
22:01
How does this work please? What price is anticipated for June 17 (a particular day in June presumably)? Do you pick a price and the odds are based on that? What multiple of the amount bet would be paid out in the event the said price (mid price, bid or offer?) is reached or exceeded? Anyway, best of luck.
aimingupward2
06/12/2016
17:58
Well another day and no interims. Must be tomorrow! I was going to buy more of these but decided to have a spread bet instead in order to leverage what little cash I have at the moment. Have bet on the June 2017 price on the basis that this covers potential upside from the imminent interims and also the finals in May 17. All the pointers are good in terms of sales growth and the constant stream of new approvals in sizeable markets indicates that this growth should continue for several years to come. The icing on the cake would be a deal that sees the company bought at a significant premium to the current value. If that happens whilst my bet is open, I'll be a happy bunny!
audigger
05/12/2016
21:45
More good news. Brazil is a huge market so more sales growth to come. Must admit I expected an RNS this am but not this one! Hopefully the interims will reflect more significant upside from increased sales and currency gains.
audigger
05/12/2016
09:19
ECO RECEIVES BRAZILIAN MARKETING AUTHORISATION FOR AIVLOSIN® WATER SOLUBLE GRANULES FOR SWINE
waldron
05/12/2016
07:39
Another regulatory approval for Aivlosin this morning - this time in Brazil. Peter Lawrence, Chairman of ECO, commented "This approval from the Brazilian MAPA is very important in the development of Aivlosin for swine globally. Brazil is one of the world's leading producers and exporters of pork and this new formulation will enhance our ability to offer an expanded range of valuable therapeutic tools to swine producers for both the domestic and export markets." Excellent. Interims due possibly later this week.
aimingupward2
30/11/2016
10:50
Due interims around second week December.Should be very good.
ltinvestor
18/11/2016
10:19
Used some of my avesco gains to join in hereThanks for the responses. I have indeed read the older posts, good stuff
nfs
17/11/2016
11:53
There were a couple of notes issued in May/June of this year which I posted suggesting a target of at least 800p and I have a vague recollection of one in the 1000-1300 range. As I've said before, this kind of business model is tricky to value as they have invested heavily in Aivlosin and are now reaping the rewards. From what we've heard there are lots more registrations to come and there are good prospects for existing registrations to deliver increased sales. If the regulatory environment also dictates that future products must have a similar profile with respect to low residues, market share may increase much more. So I see potential for significant upside especially if they can charge a premium and manufacture and distribute at low cost. I won't pluck numbers out of the air but any takeout would have to be at a significant premium to today's SP
audigger
17/11/2016
11:28
Could be. Could well be. And it might only take, say, 3 years. It is very probable that profits will double over that time, i.e. a growth rate of near 25% per year. Very doable I would now think. Even if a bit longer, still a good rate of return.
aimingupward2
17/11/2016
11:23
I think £10 might be a target in managements' heads
nfs
17/11/2016
10:28
nfs, I wrote this back in May: "If I were Peter Lawrence, I think I would be saying to myself that when I do retire and sell some,or all, of my shares I will want to get very much more for them than I could probably have got 14 years ago. So, realising this, I now think that £5 is too modest a target and that £6, 7, or even 8+ is within the realms of possibility, despite the very high p.e implied." P/E is v. probably not a a good way to value a company like EAH anyway. If you've not already done so, it would be worth your while to read back over the posts for, say the last six months or so. The barriers to entry here are enormous, the value to a larger company with it's own sales forces, and hence higher margins, is very attractive and the whole climate of minimising antibiotic usage is favourable for Aivlosin - the main, but not only, important company product. The interim report, due in a few weeks time should make v. encouraging reading.
aimingupward2
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