Share Name Share Symbol Market Type Share ISIN Share Description
DS Smith LSE:SMDS London Ordinary Share GB0008220112 ORD 10P
  Price Change % Change Share Price Bid Price Offer Price High Price Low Price Open Price Shares Traded Last Trade
  -0.80p -0.17% 477.50p 477.30p 477.50p 479.20p 472.10p 476.90p 3,752,991 12:57:53
Industry Sector Turnover (m) Profit (m) EPS - Basic PE Ratio Market Cap (m)
General Industrials 5,765.0 292.0 24.9 19.2 6,530.54

DS Smith Share Discussion Threads

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DateSubjectAuthorDiscuss
04/9/2018
11:48
Nice firm statement Continue to tuck away
phillis
28/8/2018
11:16
LOL. O Phillis, you certainly know how to treat "church" with a deep honesty. I am also an admirer of churchtower and the information he/she provides om here.
dssmith51
28/8/2018
10:29
tx Church A bit more accurate than your previous post
phillis
20/8/2018
09:03
Trading statement due on 4th September.
churchtower
15/8/2018
19:58
Opened a position here today. The price is bang on the bottom trend line of the 3 year chart which hardly makes sense for a company in the booming box sector that has recently made an earnings enhancing European acquisition.
ygor705
30/7/2018
11:23
There is no £1.50 'profit' from the rights issue, no free money, no magic money tree! Same debate we had before about the 'discount' offered during a rights issue!
gettingrichslow
30/7/2018
08:48
Once those who are choosing to bank the £1.50 profit on each share from the recent rights issue are disposed of then we should begin to see a steady move upwards.
churchtower
26/7/2018
14:58
all over now a lot of fuss about not very much
phillis
26/7/2018
12:53
It looks as if I took up my rights after all. Time will determine if this is beneficial
erogenous jones
26/7/2018
12:32
Mirandaj - Sustainability Review......too lengthy & convoluted for me haha. Will it help them to make more cardboard boxes and increase the divi ??? answers on a postcard please haha. BTW Got my RI shares yesterday, share price up today, I'm showing a small cap gain, looking good so far.
losos
26/7/2018
09:46
DS Smith publishes annual Sustainability Review, launching nine new, ambitious targets http://alturl.com/jah6e
mirandaj
25/7/2018
11:30
SMDS rump got placed at 500p. If you sold your nil paid shares for 150p or less, you'd have done better simply letting them laspe. There's no guarantee of course, that's markets for you.
typo56
19/7/2018
17:02
DSSmith51, don't worry, that kind of thing is easily done. Only the other day I was trying to withdraw a few £k from an account and somehow managed to transfer IN the same amount again!
gettingrichslow
18/7/2018
08:49
Thank you to all you guys out there. I did speak with my online broker customer service. I panicked due to not understanding. All your comments are helpful in understanding my situation. I cannot thank you enough. Basically I incurred costs of only 50 quid (Stamp duty and fee) for buying rights in the market (my mistake. I was more concerned that I may be thousands out of pocket which is likely very unrealistic. Have learnt something. I believe my existing rights.. 5389 bought in the market by mistake + a balance of "my rights" of 1839 (5389 less 3550 being the rights I have taken up) means I now have 5389+1839 rights that I can if I wish sell by 23rd July or allow them to lapse and accept the lapse price paid on the 24th July. Does this make sense? Maybe a profit in it by my mistake in the region of £75 gain for every 1p increase in the rights increase on what I paid. Likewise a loss of £75 for every 1p drop in the price? I hope I make sense.
dssmith51
18/7/2018
08:18
Agree, talk to your broker and see if they can help. You never know, if you sell the extra rights today you might even end up in profit! Another big rights issue announced this morning, this time FUTR. Here we go again!
typo56
17/7/2018
20:55
DSSmith51. Phone your broker/online provider. They may be able to do some swap or offset, as a goodwill gesture, hopefully with low/zero fee...Worth 2 minutes on the phone.
dr_smith
17/7/2018
20:54
Hi DSS51 - if I'm reading correctly from here htTps://www.investegate.co.uk/smith--ds--plc--smds-/rns/announcement-re--rights-issue/201806190716028205R/ The rights are exercisable up to 11 am on 24th July, so you should be able to trade them up to the 23rd, or presumably you get the cash value if you do not exercise them.
kazoom
17/7/2018
20:06
Hi All! What a muck of it I made today (stress stress). I thought I was taking up my rights, but instead what I actually did on line was to buy rights in the market. My rights was for 5389, plus buying another 5389 rights in the market = 10,778 total rights held. It was so easy for me to make this mistake online by a newbie. Does anyone one what the final day of trading in rights is? I believe I can sell my rights or allow them to lapse and receive 150p or so for every rights share I do not take up. Any suggestions or whatever would be gladly appreciated, in particular the deadline date for trading in the the rights shares.
dssmith51
17/7/2018
08:16
The 'discount' isn't just there to persuade existing holders to part with more cash. It's required in order for underwriters to accept the risk of the rights failing, which they do for a nice fee of course. It also engineers a dip in the share price. Like it or not, most of us look at historic price charts rather than market cap charts and consider a dip as a good time to buy. So the market cap can end up being higher than it would have done without the rights 'discount', rather than anything fundamental.
typo56
15/7/2018
16:30
Typo, exactly! And the answer to your question is that loads of investors would say 'hey, that's not much of a discount, I'm not buying!' which just goes to show how ridiculous the whole thing is - and which is precisely why I asked the question to Churchtower in the first place. Basically most people just don't understand what's going on and think they are getting some sort of bargain because of the way the RIs are structured and the terminology used such as 'discount' - comical really when you think about it...
gettingrichslow
15/7/2018
15:17
My understanding is the underwriters won't see the shares unless the rights issue bombs and SMDS trades below the 350p rights price. If that does happen, I can't see them being very 'delighted' to have to buy them at 350p. Otherwise, all the lapsed rights (the rump) will be placed on 25 July, probably at a slight discount to the price prevailing at the time, and the proceeds (net of the 350p rights price) distributed to the holders of the lapsed rights. Private investors are probably wiser to rights issues these days but I think even experienced investors can be seduced by the rights 'discount'. I wonder if the rights would be subscribed so keenly had it been, say, 2 for 11 at 525p rather than the 3 for 11 at 350p. If not, why not? In both cases you're being asked for about 95.5p per existing share, in order to maintain the same percentage stake in the company.
typo56
15/7/2018
12:33
Yes, reluctantly. They are hoping they don't need to take any. And you're not buying at 350p for god's sake!! It's 350p plus foregoing the value of the rights! So market price! The underwriters could have bought at market price and didn't, so yes it is 'reluctantly' as I said!
gettingrichslow
15/7/2018
12:10
GRS - Reluctantly ? Are you seriously suggesting that the underwriters took on their commitment to this rights issue reluctantly. They will be delighted as would I to take on any number of DS Smith shares at 350p.
churchtower
15/7/2018
11:15
Yes there will because the underwriters are taking them up reluctantly and will be trying to move them on afterwards...
gettingrichslow
15/7/2018
10:05
The elms of underwriting may well include a commitment to take non-taken-up shares so there will no downward drift as you suggest.
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